PV upgrading route? eGo < kGo < now what?

[Kyi]

So back then, I started off with one of those slim (901 I believe?) e-cigs, then switched to an 808D or something like that, then earlier this year I picked up an eGo, then I gave that away and got a kGo. I understand the main point of the upgrade route is for longer battery life, features, and higher voltage? So even though I enjoy the heck out of my kGo, I was just wondering in case I decide to upgrade again (yes, I've started obsessing), what should I go for? I'm not sure if I want to mess with those mods and boxes, I really don't want to have to build or tinker with anything too much, for my own safety and sanity. I don't really want to buy something really expensive either (I'm thinking $80 is as far as I'll go). I also don't like using cartomizers (if that matters).

What would be the next thing to get? I'd be okay with one of those single e-cig kits too, they don't have to come in a pair. Thanks all!

 

[V_Joe1981]

I would go with a Silver Bullet from AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | Your one stop shop! Pair it with a AW 18650 battery and you're good to go IMHO. I think the mod is $84 bucks now and is just a very solid upgrade.

Kalamazoo Vapor Shop | Age Verification has some inexpensive mods that you can slap on whatever and go as well

 

[bnrkwest]

Sounds like you are ready VV APV. I just got a Provari Mini and I will be happy for a very long time Good luck in your search! bnrk

 

[NANIAU]

So back then, I started off with one of those slim (901 I believe?) e-cigs, then switched to an 808D or something like that, then earlier this year I picked up an eGo, then I gave that away and got a kGo. I understand the main point of the upgrade route is for longer battery life, features, and higher voltage? So even though I enjoy the heck out of my kGo, I was just wondering in case I decide to upgrade again (yes, I've started obsessing), what should I go for? I'm not sure if I want to mess with those mods and boxes, I really don't want to have to build or tinker with anything too much, for my own safety and sanity. I don't really want to buy something really expensive either (I'm thinking $80 is as far as I'll go). I also don't like using cartomizers (if that matters).

What would be the next thing to get? I'd be okay with one of those single e-cig kits too, they don't have to come in a pair. Thanks all!

Who sells single e-cig kits? I'd consider buying your used Kgo.

 

[Butters78]

I went from kgo, to lava lavatube, to provari and buzz pro. I couldn't be happier.

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

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Done.

 

[none]

Yeah I reckon you can't go wrong with a VV device, there are heaps of devices but the lavatube seems popular.

 

[billo]

Just wait a few weeks and maybe get the eGo twist VV. Not a monster size like all the other VV's and not a monster price either--under $30 !

In fact you can already get them (CIGNOT, for example.)

It's the next thing on my list, but I'll wait a few months until any bugs are probably gone.

 

[Kyi]

What about this Bolt? I think I'd be okay with a 5V one... for now. Can someone sum up what the main difference is with VV vaping? I know you can get more power, TH, heat or whatever, but is it a HUGE difference? Will I have to change all my supplies, or do I just need to get SR atomizers and stuff? Maybe I'm still too much of a noob to move onto VV vaping... so much I don't understand well.

 

[NGIB]

The eGo VV Twist is a step in the right direction and it works with all your supplies. Mine came in yesterday and they work great and are still relatively small and easy to carry around...

 

[Kyi]

Awesome! I took a look at them and they seem pretty afffordable... if I'll only have to buy the battery. What about the chargers and stuff? I have a standard eGo/kGo charger right now, will that work? How does this compare to other lower priced VV batteries?

 

[kingcobra]

I thought of picking up a Provari mini just as a backup, but when I started to think about it, just being able to select the voltage is a bummer. Atties vary and even the same atty can go down in resistance, if that's all you've used is VV devices you probably don't mind but in the end I like to set mine at a certain wattage and forget it.

So for me, I started out with an Ego-T, garbage, then went to a 510-t, much better but can't control the strength, then to the Darwin, can't go up from here and haven't spent a cent on hardware in 9 months now

 

[MickeyRat]

What about this Bolt? I think I'd be okay with a 5V one... for now. Can someone sum up what the main difference is with VV vaping? I know you can get more power, TH, heat or whatever, but is it a HUGE difference? Will I have to change all my supplies, or do I just need to get SR atomizers and stuff? Maybe I'm still too much of a noob to move onto VV vaping... so much I don't understand well.

The bolt is a low cost solidly built mod. I bought one for my wife recently. Apparently there was a problem with the threads being loose for a while but, they seem to have addressed that. Hers are actually fairly tight. If you get one, I suggest you get it from a vendor that has high turnover. Madvapes would be a good choice but, there are others. She uses it with the extension tube and she uses a single 18650 battery. I do use VV and 5V has it's fans but, I think it's too much myself. Most VV users run theirs in the neighborhood of 4.5V.

There are two main advantages to a good VV. First, it's VV. That frees you from having to match your atomizers to your device. Second, and this one doesn't get mentioned enough, they are regulated and you don't get much if any fall off in voltage until the batteries are dead.

As far as when to move, I'm of the opinion that if you don't have enough experience with fixed volt options to know what that's all about, you have some exploring to do. If you want some idea of what VV will do for you, try some LR stuff on your current PV. That's not quite the same as VV but, it does simulate what VV does when you turn it up some.

 

[luvinit]

I love my KGOs too but now have a lavatube. Yes, vv makes a big difference! In the right carto or tank, your juices take on a whole new dimension at the right voltage. It's too big to carry around in your pocket but that's what I love my KGOs for.

 

[none]

A VV PV is great as they can be used with any atty/carto, if for example you they are having a sale and have sold out of the SR atty/carto you can pick up the LR ones and vice versa. It is also great for setting different voltage for different juices as they all have different characteristics when you change the voltage, say a RY4 at 3.7v you can taste the nuttiness while at 4.5v the sweetness of the juice a little more, as an example. I think it's great and would not go back to fixed voltage for my main PV.

 

[wv2win]

Here some options that I put together for a new person to vaping. In the "Good" category, you can ignore the Kgo, etc but the EVO would be a good next step in that category. Plus it is very simple to use. And the GLV2 is also just as simple to use as what you currently have. And the Darwin is the simplest of the higher-end APV's because there are no menus to learn:

Good:

E-Power 510, Kgo or EVO. I like the E-Power because the batteries last a little longer (lifetime wise) and cost 4 time less. Both the Kgo and E-Power are 3.7 volt/1000+ mAh batteries. All three of these are better than the over-hyped eGo which is only a 3.4 volt/650 mAh battery. Stick with manual batteries for better control, better warmth and safer. Battery life on a charge is about 4-6 hours. The EVO is selectable power allowing you to choose between 3.7 volts, 4.5 volt and 5.0 volts which is a simple set-up that provides the three main power levels:

e-Power

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Better:

5 volt GLV 2: with a 5 volt PV you will get long battery life (6+ hours) and much warmer vapor. The GLV come with a lifetime warranty and is built to withstand a bomb hit. Few models can match it's build quality:

Electronic Cigarettes and E-Liquid - Great Lakes Vapor


Best:

Variable Wattage Darwin (if you can find it in stock): with the Darwin you can "dial in" your power settings to get the best vape from any atomizer, cartomizer and eliquid. It also maintains your setting automatically when the resistance of the atty changes from use. It also has "regulated boost circuit" technology to maintain your power setting even as the battery drains. Most impressively, it gets 21+ hours on a charge. It comes with a 2 year warranty (which is rare) and a full year warranty on the battery (which is unheard of).

Darwin: Nhaler

Another good option in this category is the ProVari variable voltage model.

 

[MickeyRat]

Better:

5 volt GLV 2: with a 5 volt PV you will get long battery life (6+ hours) and much warmer vapor. The GLV come with a lifetime warranty and is built to withstand a bomb hit. Few models can match it's build quality:

Electronic Cigarettes and E-Liquid - Great Lakes Vapor


Best:

Variable Wattage Darwin (if you can find it in stock): with the Darwin you can "dial in" your power settings to get the best vape from any atomizer, cartomizer and eliquid. It also maintains your setting automatically when the resistance of the atty changes from use. It also has "regulated boost circuit" technology to maintain your power setting even as the battery drains. Most impressively, it gets 21+ hours on a charge. It comes with a 2 year warranty (which is rare) and a full year warranty on the battery (which is unheard of).

Darwin: Nhaler

Another good option in this category is the ProVari variable voltage model.

Hmmm you give pretty short shrift to all the VVs that aren't variable wattage and there are some good ones that aren't Provaris despite what the Provari fanboys say.

One question though I've seen an EVO and a 3VO and I'll be darned if I can tell the difference. Can you?

Kyi just to explain. The EVO and 3VOs are VV mods but, not your usual ones. You can choose between 4 fixed voltage settings. They aren't infinitely adjustable between the upper and lower end like most VVs.

Right now, I'm tempted to say hold off a bit before spending the money on a high end VV. There seem to be a lot of new things in that realm. The new 4 amp lavatubes look pretty promising. There's also a Provari knock off called the Vmax that appears to be a real power house. I'm a little concerned that that one will damage batteries cranked up but, it looks interesting. I'd wait for the V2 on that one though. It has some really weird drawbacks right now.

 

[Iffy]

For the $80 limit, I'd seriously consider one of the LavaTubes or variants (VTube, etc,).

 

[Riverboat]

eGo<kGo<............PROVARI................

 

[Butters78]

eGo<kGo<............PROVARI................

Odelay Provari!!!