question about seigali and batteries

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NealBJr

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im getting a sig 150 and 2 vtc4 and a charger in the mail today do i need to charge them right when i get them? and how long will they last and how do i know when they are ready to be charged

I would charge them first.. they usually come shipped with a charge, but it might have discharged slowly while in storage. As far as how long do they last... I have a Sigeli 100 with two Samsung batteries in them. They last me for a day, but I charge them when they're at %50. As far as longevity... I have some VTC4's that have lasted over a year, but they've been put through some abuse physically, so they're being semi-retired and replaced two months ago with the Samsungs.
 

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im getting a sig 150 and 2 vtc4 and a charger in the mail today do i need to charge them right when i get them? and how long will they last and how do i know when they are ready to be charged
I would recommend chargeing, they usually arrive at 3.4 volts for longer shelf life. they should last acouple days, depending on your vape style. I bougth one for my daughter and the batteries last four days . I tell her to charge them at 40% wich I think is 3.8 volts. You will get more charge cycles out of your batteries this way. Good luck and keep reading, lots of great info here, Ifeel like I have become a vape DR. inthe couple years of researching here.
 

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I would charge them first.. they usually come shipped with a charge, but it might have discharged slowly while in storage. As far as how long do they last... I have a Sigeli 100 with two Samsung batteries in them. They last me for a day, but I charge them when they're at %50. As far as longevity... I have some VTC4's that have lasted over a year, but they've been put through some abuse physically, so they're being semi-retired and replaced two months ago with the Samsungs.
how do you know when there around 50 percent does the sig have a battery moniter?
 

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Technically, you don't "have to" charge lithium batteries right away, but I always put my new batteries onto the charger prior to using them. They don't ship with a full charge on them.

How long will they last? That depends entirely on how you treat them. If you are going to run them hard (sub-ohm useage), they obviously won't last as long than if you were using standard resistance. Lithium batteries have a duty cycle (longevity) of between 250 - 300 charges. If you use and charge one daily, that works out to be 250 -- 300 days. Keep in mind, as the battery ages, it progressively loses it ability to retain its capacity (mah) and ability to hold a charge like new. The harder you use your battery, the faster it will age.

On a side note, I have two or three AW IMR 18650 batteries which are nearly 3 years old and still in my battery rotation for my Provari's.

How long will they last per charge cycle? Again, depends upon how hard you use them. Standard resistance load (1.0 - 3.0 ohm) they last about 20 hours. (2100 mah = 21 hour use time) About half of that if you sub-ohm. The higher the current (amp) draw, the faster the battery drains.

1.0 ohm = 4.2 amp draw
0.9 ohm = 4.6 amp draw
0.8 ohm = 5.2 amp draw
0.7 ohms = 6 amp draw
0.6 ohms = 7 amp draw
0.5 ohms = 8.4 amp draw
0.4 ohms = 10.5 amp draw
0.3 ohms = 14.0 amp draw
0.2 ohms = 21.0 amp draw
0.1 ohms = 42.0 amp draw​

Lithium batteries should be replaced/recharged when their voltage drops between 3.4 - 3.5 volts. Fully charged they should be specifically 4.2 volts. Your regulated mod is programed to indicate to you that the voltage is too low for it to continue to work. Or, you can check the voltage of the batteries with the built-in voltage meter in the mod.
 
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Yes, there is a display that will tell you the wattage you're set at, the % of battery left, the ohms of the atomizer and the voltage it's using at that watt.

The battery monitor isn't %100 accurate though.. it's based on how much of a charge the batteries are putting out. it's a good rough estimate, but it'll jump from %100 to %90 fairly quickly, then slowly go down from there. Instead of thinking of it as a % of battery left, I think of it as % of the output of the battery.

Your use can be different from mine though.. I vape at around 30 watts on a .7 ohm build.
 

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Technically, you don't "have to" charge lithium batteries right away, but I always put my new batteries onto the charger prior to using them. They don't ship with a full charge on them.

How long will they last? That depends entirely on how you treat them. If you are going to run them hard (sub-ohm useage), they obviously won't last as long than if you were using standard resistance. Lithium batteries have a duty cycle (longevity) of between 250 - 300 charges. If you use and charge one daily, that works out to be 250 -- 300 days. Keep in mind, as the battery ages, it progressively loses it ability to retain its capacity (mah) and ability to hold a charge like new.

How long will they last per charge cycle? Again, depends upon how hard you use them. Standard resistance load (1.0 - 3.0 ohm) they last about 20 hours. About half of that if you sub-ohm. The higher the amp draw, the faster the battery drains.

Lithium batteries should be replaced when their voltage drops between 3.4 - 3.5 volts. Fully charged they should be specifically 4.2 volts. Your regulated mod is programed to indicate to you that the voltage is too low for it to continue to work. Or, you can check the voltage of the batteries with the built-in voltage meter.


Yet again, another perfect post by the battery guru. :) You probably have about 10,000 posts with 50,000 likes. :)
 

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At 50% your batteries will be at 3.5v. That's when I charge mine.

As for how long can you go between charges, that will depend on your usage. Higher power and/or heavy use, less time between charges. I have two pairs of batteries for each dual battery mod so I don't have to wait for them to charge.

Most batteries need a long charge when you receive them.
 

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It is always good to have backup batteries. I have 3 sets for each of my mods, that way I can have a set in my device a set charging and a backup set charged and ready to go. I probably only need two sets but this way I never have to worry about having to leave without a backup and can do a weekend trip without a charger.
 

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Technically, you don't "have to" charge lithium batteries right away, but I always put my new batteries onto the charger prior to using them. They don't ship with a full charge on them.

How long will they last? That depends entirely on how you treat them. If you are going to run them hard (sub-ohm useage), they obviously won't last as long than if you were using standard resistance. Lithium batteries have a duty cycle (longevity) of between 250 - 300 charges. If you use and charge one daily, that works out to be 250 -- 300 days. Keep in mind, as the battery ages, it progressively loses it ability to retain its capacity (mah) and ability to hold a charge like new.

On a side note, I have two or three AW IMR 18650 batteries which are nearly 3 years old and still in my battery rotation for my Provari's.

How long will they last per charge cycle? Again, depends upon how hard you use them. Standard resistance load (1.0 - 3.0 ohm) they last about 20 hours. About half of that if you sub-ohm. The higher the current (amp) draw, the faster the battery drains.

1.0 ohm = 4.2 amp draw
0.9 ohm = 4.6 amp draw
0.8 ohm = 5.2 amp draw
0.7 ohms = 6 amp draw
0.6 ohms = 7 amp draw
0.5 ohms = 8.4 amp draw
0.4 ohms = 10.5 amp draw
0.3 ohms = 14.0 amp draw
0.2 ohms = 21.0 amp draw
0.1 ohms = 42.0 amp draw​

Lithium batteries should be replaced/recharged when their voltage drops between 3.4 - 3.5 volts. Fully charged they should be specifically 4.2 volts. Your regulated mod is programed to indicate to you that the voltage is too low for it to continue to work. Or, you can check the voltage of the batteries with the built-in voltage meter in the mod.

how do i know when to charge the batteries if i use them in a mech mod?
 

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how do i know when to charge the batteries if i use them in a mech mod?
When I was a new vaper using my first mechanical, I used a battery voltage indicator. This attaches at the 510 connection and gives the battery voltage when you press the mod's fire button. When the battery reaches 3.4 - 3.5 volts, recharge it to 4.2 volts. Draining a battery to 2.5 volts could permanently damage the battery.

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Once you gain sufficient experience with using a mechanical mod, you'll learn when the voltage has dropped sufficiently to know when to replace the battery and charge it from the vaping experience. Until that time, a voltage indicator is very useful.

It can also be used to determine the voltage drop of your gear setup by attaching the juice attachment on the opposite end of the voltage indicator.
 
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I'm glad people are mentioning that the Sig150 has a strange battery indicator.

First/only time I drained my batteries to 10% in the Sig150 (didn't even realize till it refused to fire) they were at 2.8V when I put them on my charger. I've never seen batteries go that low, and I've been wary of using those batteries since.
 
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