RDA Question about Vapor Production

[ellejewell]

Okay, my igo L puts out really nice flavor but I can't seem to get very much vapor. I am not looking to cloud chase but I do like a nice thick vapor too. So I am wondering if I am doing something wrong.

I didn't drill out the single hole. I did a 28g 1.5ohm build and I have my istick set to 12watts/4.2V. My vg/pg ratio is 70vg/30pg. The vg pg ratio is new for me I have been vaping 50/50 but it was too harsh.

Does more vg mean I need to use a higher wattage or lower? I am very confused about this whole building ohms business. It seems no matter what my build is the outcome is the same it's either too hot, perfect or doesn't vape enough. Am I missing something here? should I leave the voltage to one setting and just change the ohms. Uggh. this is very complicated business. I usually change my watts with every new build until it is somewhat decent but all builds seem the same so I am guessing I am defeating the purpose of changing the ohm.

 

[State O' Flux]

Advance warning... I'm going to suggest a good bit of reading. If you're not a big reader... good luck with all that.

First, have a look at some Ohm's law formulas... they are the unregulated (mech mod), basic amperage/wattage values derived from a known battery voltage and build net resistance. These values can be used as a baseline, point of reference to develop a build. 'X' resistance at 'X' volts will discharge 'X' wattage.

• For wattage ("Power") the formula is V² ÷ Ω = P.
• For amperage ("Current"), the formula is V ÷ Ω = C.

As you have a regulated device, you have a bit of an advantage in that you can adjust wattage independently from the build's Ohm's law derived, net resistance. Also, your build doesn't need to be quite as optimized as a build would need to be for a unregulated device.

Where with a mech mod, the wire can be too thick/dense, the net resistance too low for the battery continuous current discharge, too many coils in parallel for the wattage and resistance... and on and on.
With a regulated device, assuming you have enough wattage, you can build for maximized coil net surface area first, then adjust wattage to provide a desired heat flux (coil temperature) for that surface area.

Next, you need to learn how to use a build modeling tool, where you can create the perfect "build"... before you commit wire and time.
Steam Engine can be found at the first link below... refer to that, when you read all of parts 1~3 of the Steam Engine Users Guide... which, amazingly enough , can be found in the second sigline below.

The third sigline directs you to basic info and helpful links for mech users... and in your case, rebuilders. The fourth sigline hyperlink takes you to an article outlining the practical applications of surface area, heat flux and applied wattage.

What you'll learn is that for any build, there is a optimal wattage for your particular tastes, and inversely... an optimal build for an applied wattage.

Good luck

 

[socalsailor]

Vaping is very personal preference driven, but with that said, I wouldn't dream of vaping at less than about 22W. I think (IMHO, anyway) that you're unsatisfied with your dripper's performance becaus you're being timid. I would start at 22 watts, and work up until you hit the right feel. I personally love a vape at .3 to .7 ohms and 35 to 45 watts.

 

[puffon]

The igo-L is more of a flavor atty. Small chamber. Small air hole.
You could drill it out and get more vapor, but may lose some flavor.
Higher VG will give you more vapor.
Its just a matter of experimenting to find what works best for you.
Try different builds, wattage and juices.
You might find the addy is just not for you, then try another...then another...then another......

 

[Nickstive]

One thing that can greatly effect vapor production is coil diameter. Something like a micro or nano coil is going to create more vapor because there's less space between the wraps, making the coil hotter. When you do other coil build, try experimenting with what you're wrapping the coil around.

 

[jb783]

Okay, my igo L puts out really nice flavor but I can't seem to get very much vapor. I am not looking to cloud chase but I do like a nice thick vapor too. So I am wondering if I am doing something wrong.

I didn't drill out the single hole. I did a 28g 1.5ohm build and I have my istick set to 12watts/4.2V. My vg/pg ratio is 70vg/30pg. The vg pg ratio is new for me I have been vaping 50/50 but it was too harsh.

Does more vg mean I need to use a higher wattage or lower? I am very confused about this whole building ohms business. It seems no matter what my build is the outcome is the same it's either too hot, perfect or doesn't vape enough. Am I missing something here? should I leave the voltage to one setting and just change the ohms. Uggh. this is very complicated business. I usually change my watts with every new build until it is somewhat decent but all builds seem the same so I am guessing I am defeating the purpose of changing the ohm.

you're dripping, so I'd get higher VG juice if you can. In fact, I wouldn't recommend less than 80/20 and myself, I'm about to go 100% VG on my next order.

The first thing to do, is make sure with your build you can get a good ramp-up speed. When you push the button, you want those coils going from cold to glowing as fast as possible. Second, make sure you don't choke your wick by using too much, or having it be packed too tightly inside the coil.

I recommend also, if it can fit in the deck, no lower than a 3mm coil. I say this because you get more surface area with a larger coil, it can be a bit easier to work with, and it can hold more wick.

Further, you may want to up your watts until you get that ramp-up speed you need. Don't be afraid to use more watts, if it's wicked properly and there is good airflow (to cool it) you will get a great vape. I vape at 90w currently on my dual coil 24g, 3mm build.

And the steam engine is nice but holy hell is it confusing. Once you make a few coils you'll have a very good idea the ohm reading of them based on gauge and size.

my .02