I wanted to see if anyone that is also allergic to PG(Im also allergic to PEG) like me, has any recommendations for 100% PG free flavor concentrates to buy from Diy Vapor Supply that are either real flavors or natural flavors.
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Since no one else has any suggestions you might try:
Nude Nicotine | Nicotine Solutions
Edit: I should have mentioned that Nude Nicotine sells flavorings as well as nic base. See my post farther down.
Nude Nicotine | Nicotine Solutions
Edit: I should have mentioned that Nude Nicotine sells flavorings as well as nic base. See my post farther down.
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Down to 20% and PG still caused me problems. PEG didn't agree either. And certain flavors also caused issues (e.g. chai, cardamon). However, no issue with small amount of PG used in flavors concentrates. I use VG with 20% distilled water and FlavorArt concentrates. GL
Flavor art flavors are all VG I think. All natural is asking for kind of a lot on top of it? You could email Flavor art to see if they have any "natural" ones.
I feel I should kind of point out that what happens in a flavor lab makes "natural" really immaterial unless you are making your own and that can be difficult. They go through so many chemical processes that "natural" means "I might be starting with some molecular part of an orange and doing 500 modifications and then it comes out tasting like strawberry."
"Natural" flavors are only prized because the general public thinks they are better somehow and I guess some might be, but many are not."
You can read all about it and more about "food" by checking out "Fast Food Nation" which is really a classic muckraking book about McDonalds. Just be prepared to go on a juice fast for a month afterward while you recover.... and forget...
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I feel I should kind of point out that what happens in a flavor lab makes "natural" really immaterial unless you are making your own and that can be difficult. They go through so many chemical processes that "natural" means "I might be starting with some molecular part of an orange and doing 500 modifications and then it comes out tasting like strawberry."
"Natural" flavors are only prized because the general public thinks they are better somehow and I guess some might be, but many are not."
You can read all about it and more about "food" by checking out "Fast Food Nation" which is really a classic muckraking book about McDonalds. Just be prepared to go on a juice fast for a month afterward while you recover.... and forget...
Anna
I thought FlavourArt concentrates used PG as the carrier. Mine seem way too thin to be VG based. I suggested Nude Nicotine because they have (or had in the past) concentrates that are VG/alcohol based for those who need/want to be PG free. Their selection is limited but they claim their flavors are "naturally extracted", whatever that actually means. I use their Coffee Cream, Tobacco, and BRY4 (berry tobacco) flavors. Be advised that all their tobacco flavors (including BRY4) are NETs, absolutes really. I use about 0.75% of the BRY4 and it is plenty strong.
These aren't from DIY Vapor Supply, but....Flavor Jungle carries a selection of Northwest VG Flavors in various sizes. You might want to try some of them. They just recently had a sale on them, with a discount code. But, I deleted the email, so I don't know if it's still going on or not.
https://flavorjungle.com/collections/northwest-vg-flavors
ETA: Rats! It was a whopping 40% off Sale on those flavorings. But, it ended Nov. 19th.
They frequently offer sales on their different brands of flavorings though...cycling through them about every 3-4 weeks. So, it shouldn't be too long before they have another 1 for the Northwest VG Flavors in particular.
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions, I really appreciate it. Ok, so about a week after no one replied I contacted DIY Vapor Supply and i was told that only Nature's Flavors doesn't have any PG whatsoever, just about all the companies out there use PG to either extract or they put PG in the concentrates after they extract. I even made sure i was given the right info by looking at the food safety sheets for the concentrates that have to be released to the public for each product and DIY Vapor Supply carries just about every flavor on the market. I bought a few Nature's Flavors and haven't had any issues at all and they actually taste really good.
I can't remember who told me but they said that a majority of the Real Flavors dont' have pg and aren't extracted with it either but I never got to that 1 to read the safety sheets(which I regretted later). I was sold a couple to try and I don't know if they use pg or peg somehow or its something else entirely but I had a bad reaction to the Apple pie, blueberry, Vanilla Custard and Passion fruit Real Flavors. Only the Wild cherry and Orange Real Flavors I didn't have any problems with at all so until I get more safety info on that brand i won't be getting any except for the Wild cherry and orange, besides those 2 I'm definitely staying away from those for now.
Now as for Nude Nicotine, I will definitely be contacting customer support and see what's up cause I didn't know they sold concentrates.
Ya it sucks having soooooo many allergies like I do because it makes it really hard for me to live a normal life. As it is I already make just about everything for myself (soaps, detergents, cleaning supplies, flavor extracts for food I eat and THC Carts) i just wish I knew how to make concentrates and especially so I wouldn't have to constantly waste money on stuff like I have on concentrates for vaping. ( in the picture is a little over $250 that I spent gone to waste) 2 actually bottles of a brand juice was $26 something each(yes Massachusetts is expensive, 75% tax on all vape stuff) then all the concentrates in the big bag I got off Amazon for about $150 to $160(I'd have to look at my account for exact price, i think i under-shot what I paid) and the 3 concentrates by themselves, those are the Real Flavors which was $3 or $4 each (would have to find receipt for exact but I might have under-shot that as well)
And yes I labeled it I'm allergic so I didn't mix up the ones I can use. Actually so I don't forget which I can and cant use. As soon as I know I cant have it, it goes right into that double bag and into the veggie draw of my fridge lol
I can't remember who told me but they said that a majority of the Real Flavors dont' have pg and aren't extracted with it either but I never got to that 1 to read the safety sheets(which I regretted later). I was sold a couple to try and I don't know if they use pg or peg somehow or its something else entirely but I had a bad reaction to the Apple pie, blueberry, Vanilla Custard and Passion fruit Real Flavors. Only the Wild cherry and Orange Real Flavors I didn't have any problems with at all so until I get more safety info on that brand i won't be getting any except for the Wild cherry and orange, besides those 2 I'm definitely staying away from those for now.
Now as for Nude Nicotine, I will definitely be contacting customer support and see what's up cause I didn't know they sold concentrates.
Ya it sucks having soooooo many allergies like I do because it makes it really hard for me to live a normal life. As it is I already make just about everything for myself (soaps, detergents, cleaning supplies, flavor extracts for food I eat and THC Carts) i just wish I knew how to make concentrates and especially so I wouldn't have to constantly waste money on stuff like I have on concentrates for vaping. ( in the picture is a little over $250 that I spent gone to waste) 2 actually bottles of a brand juice was $26 something each(yes Massachusetts is expensive, 75% tax on all vape stuff) then all the concentrates in the big bag I got off Amazon for about $150 to $160(I'd have to look at my account for exact price, i think i under-shot what I paid) and the 3 concentrates by themselves, those are the Real Flavors which was $3 or $4 each (would have to find receipt for exact but I might have under-shot that as well)
And yes I labeled it I'm allergic so I didn't mix up the ones I can use. Actually so I don't forget which I can and cant use. As soon as I know I cant have it, it goes right into that double bag and into the veggie draw of my fridge lol
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@Tweak401 - I don't know if you ever checked out the NorthWest VG Concentrates or not that I posted a link to above from Flavor Jungle, but...they're having a 50% off sale today only...on ALL NorthWest VG Concentrates. Coupon code is: MITTENS
I'm really curious, for those allergic to PG, what your symptoms are when you vape it? Do you get itchy, or nauseous, rashy or have trouble breathing? I see people write about having of allergy, but they don't describe what happens to them. Just curious is all.
I tried about 20 different Nude Nicotine flavors.
Out of the few that I liked a handful were tank crackers (actually o-ring destroyers in my case).
Search ECF for "Nude Nicotine" & my name and you'll find the list of go & no go flavors I posted.
I found I can tolerate about 10% PG so I use VG based nicotine & cut my (PG) flavoring % in half & add about 3-4% distilled water to approximate 30/70-25/75 PG/VG
I only use NN's Watermelon Mint or OMFG It's Chocolate now.
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