Question: Is it good to rock a mech mod with a single coil?

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Baditude

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My question is this, ... seeing they (mech mod) just pump out the power like no man's business?
I'm wondering where this myth comes from? :blink:

Yes, before there were high wattage regulated mods the only way you could put out massive wattage was to use a super sub-ohm coil on a mech mod. And there were inherent risks in doing so, like venting a battery or pushing it into thermal runaway. With a 30 amp cdr battery and using a 0.1 ohm coil the most powerful output you can get from a mech mod is 176 watts. Do the math with an Ohms Law Calculator.

:danger: A 0.1 ohm coil will have an "amp draw" of 42 amps. That's 12 amps over the amp limit of a 30 amp battery. Dangerous and NOT RECOMMENDED. Using a 0.14 ohm coil lowers the amp draw to 30 amps and puts out 126 watts. "Safer" but still not recommended. Allow yourself a bit higher margin of safety by using a higher ohm coil build.

Today we have high wattage regulated mods capable of putting out as much as 180 watts with dual 30 amp batteries or 270 watts with three 30 amp batteries. Plus you get layers of protection circuitry that you don't get with a mechanical mod. With regulated mods, coil resistance is irrelevant. If its absolute power or wattage you are looking for, go with a regulated mod -- not a mech.

Remember, the only two confirmed deaths from vaping were two individuals who were using a mechanical mod which exploded in their face. One had his atomizer propelled into his skull, the second one had the atomizer propel itself into his carotid artery and he bled to death. First vape related death

I don't have anything against using a mech mod safely, but using one requires knowing battery safety, battery specification knowledge, and knowing how to use Ohm's Law calculations.

Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations for a Mechanical Mod

A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod
 
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So, I'm getting a kick @$$ mech mod at the end of the month and I'm also getting a RDA that takes single and dual coil builds.
My question is this, is it advisable to put a single coil build on a mech mod, seeing they just pump out the power like no man's business?

Many use single coils with their mechanical devices. It’s not how many coils, but their resistance that dictates the output of a mechanical device. Know your ohms law!
 

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Although perhaps executed in the wrong way, I applaud the OP for posing the question. It shows they have concerns and would like to know what is best. I always thought one of the benefits of these forums was to seek advice from more experienced users. Does that make a person an idiot?
 

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@Baditude nailed it. There is nothing inherent to a mech that makes it "more powerful" than today's regulated mods. I almost exclusively use single coil builds in mech squonks. This is not a criticism of you, but to state that about mechs strongly suggests you don't have nearly enough understanding to be using one in the first place. Please read up on Ohms law and how mechs actually function, their strengths and weaknesses (and no, more power is not a strength at all), and safe use so you don't end up another vape injury in the ER and make the news.
 

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Boy u all sure make it scary with the battery talk & the ohms' law stuff (which I don't think I'll ever understand it but im trying) it makes me not want to vape on a mod. or any battery device. I guess I haven't heard about what all can happen with any type battery !

It's the other way round. Not understanding the basics is when scary stuff can happen. These batteries are safe if handled, and used properly. Like driving a car though there is a learning process required or scary can be the outcome.
 

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Boy u all sure make it scary with the battery talk & the ohms' law stuff (which I don't think I'll ever understand it but im trying) it makes me not want to vape on a mod. or any battery device. I guess I haven't heard about what all can happen with any type battery !
It's the other way round. Not understanding the basics is when scary stuff can happen. These batteries are safe if handled, and used properly. Like driving a car though there is a learning process required or scary can be the outcome.
DaveP said:
Handled correctly and with forethought about lithium cell safety lithium cells don't present a danger. It's when they are allowed to come in contact with metal across the terminals that they become dangerous. They are definitely something to be respected and handled safely.
Lithium ion batteries are POWERFUL. Knowledge is POWER. The lack of knowledge is DANGEROUS. RESPECT the power that is lithium ion batteries and you'll be fine.

 
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What's the difference between a kick @$$ mech mod and a regular mech mod ?
Or is it called 'kick @$$' ?
Your question makes me worried about your knowledge - why would you think it wouldn't be safe to use a single coil ?
What makes you believe that it will be powerful ? - the device will output 4.2v on a fully charged battery rapidly tapering off as it is used.

I've used mechs for a while (before the advent of devices that have made mechanical devices all-but obsolete) and i can assure you that running one with a 3 ohm coil doesn't feel particularly 'powerful'.
My advice to you would be - always remember the 3 E's - Education, education & education.
 

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Please get over it and tell us some details... maybe we can help without criticizing. Normally people here are friendly and very helpful. You kinda set yourself up for some of the responses (can't we all just get along?) I am trying to apologoze... my bad for using that word... even others reminded me that was wrong.

I am that other! And I applaud you for apologizing – honestly! But what extra details are needed? The OP asked a specific question…he received his answer, several times! Along with a ton of extra information for him to consume should he choose to do so. Do we really need to know what his kick @$$ mech is?

Perhaps he was misinformed by the many so called elitist experts in this industry about the power output on a mech – but I think his error has been set straight!

This dead horse has been flogged enough
 

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Boy u all sure make it scary with the battery talk & the ohms' law stuff (which I don't think I'll ever understand it but im trying) it makes me not want to vape on a mod. or any battery device. I guess I haven't heard about what all can happen with any type battery !

Don't be scared, this thread is about a mechanical mod/power device's.

Mechanicals have no protection circuitry or features other than the users skill & knowledge.
They require a way to accurately measure resistance of the coils used and test for shorts, understanding of various wire types, wicking materials & techniques, a firm understanding of ohm's law, advanced battery selection, use & handling knowledge to use/vape safely.

Semi decent regulated power devices/mod have built in protection features & circuitry, built in ohm's meter, ability to adjust power output by pressing a button, usually a display screen to show info and safety warnings if any occur.
Basic battery safety & selection and reading the owners manual keeps you as safe as it gets.

I have no idea why someone would start a thread in the section dedicated to ' tanks, clearomizers and drop in coils ' when having questions about mechanical & RBA use.
Clearly stating the OP intends to use an RDA which is a completely different method of vaping and has nothing to do with tanks, clearomizers and drop in coils.
 
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I'm a mechanic (and very into electronics) I learned a hard lesson about car batteries: always disconnect the Negative side first! Why? Because if you start with the positive side and your wrench accidentally touches anything metal 9ground) it will arc and actually weld itself to the metal! Lesson learned :shock:
 

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What's the difference between a kick @$$ mech mod and a regular mech mod ?
Or is it called 'kick @$$' ?
Your question makes me worried about your knowledge - why would you think it wouldn't be safe to use a single coil ?
What makes you believe that it will be powerful ? - the device will output 4.2v on a fully charged battery rapidly tapering off as it is used.

I've used mechs for a while (before the advent of devices that have made mechanical devices all-but obsolete) and i can assure you that running one with a 3 ohm coil doesn't feel particularly 'powerful'.
My advice to you would be - always remember the 3 E's - Education, education & education.
Wow, what a .....y comment, I was trying to be friendly and upbeat with the whole 'kick @$$' thing, make it more fun and playful, but you had to go and just be a dick about it.
Look, the reason I'm here is to gain 'education, education, education', I ask questions here like this one to gain a better understanding of what my vape knowledge is, and I'm sorry that it worries you so, but if this is the caliber of non-helpful and just down right nasty comments is all you have to offer, please, do me a favor and refrain from commenting on any of my future threads.
Seriously, I'm here to have fun and learn from all these eloquent and helpful people, not to be judged by the likes of you and be pulled into your drama.
 

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Boy u all sure make it scary with the battery talk & the ohms' law stuff (which I don't think I'll ever understand it but im trying) it makes me not want to vape on a mod. or any battery device. I guess I haven't heard about what all can happen with any type battery !

You'd be surprised at the heat and smoke that a typical 9v battery we use in personal electronics can produce when shorted.

A shorted Lithium cell quickly turns into a small blowtorch and can create a small explosion (more like a loud pop). If it's in your hand or even worse, your pocket, it can cause 3rd degree burns quickly. That's why we caution everyone to never put a lithium cell in a pocket or purse unless it's in a plastic battery box/case.

Handled correctly and with forethought about lithium cell safety lithium cells don't present a danger. It's when they are allowed to come in contact with metal across the terminals that they become dangerous. They are definitely something to be respected and handled safely.
 

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U tryin'hard to give me night-mares hun !! ..... But u have gotten the point-across ....after the 1st gorry-pics !!! ... ty tho !
 

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Wow, what a .....y comment, I was trying to be friendly and upbeat with the whole 'kick @$$' thing, make it more fun and playful, but you had to go and just be a dick about it.
Look, the reason I'm here is to gain 'education, education, education', I ask questions here like this one to gain a better understanding of what my vape knowledge is, and I'm sorry that it worries you so, but if this is the caliber of non-helpful and just down right nasty comments is all you have to offer, please, do me a favor and refrain from commenting on any of my future threads.
Seriously, I'm here to have fun and learn from all these eloquent and helpful people, not to be judged by the likes of you and be pulled into your drama.

Yes, OP = original poster / the person that started the thread.

We can't guess what information you need to use a mechanical & RDA setup safely, without your input. That means answering the questions you are asked.

When someone uses terms about mechanicals such as " pumps out the power like no mans business " those with experience automatically know the person asking has very little to no understanding of the in's & out's of mechanical usage or is trying to be funny/silly.
Considering mechanicals can become dangerous in the blink of an eye with no warning in the hands of the inexperienced or uninformed seems the better way to respond is to err on the side of caution even if that means it might be interpreted as rude or condescending.

When a person starts a thread in a sub forum completely unrelated to the questions & advice he or she seeks it furthers the impression the OP has little to no understanding or knowledge on the topic.
The above statement isn't meant to be judgmental, rude or unhelpful in any way.
An analogy would be;
Asking a tire salesman behind the counter of a tire shop questions about how best to construct, maintain & grow a vegetable garden.
Then getting flustered/irritated about the questions, answers & reactions you receive.
 

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Ironically (perhaps), I use mechs exclusively because I don't need much power. I use a single coil @ 1.0 ohms in my RTA, using a 25 amp battery. It draws about 4.2 amps and puts out a whopping 17-18 watts lol. Many have said already what needs to be said and read and understood about battery safety and mechs.
 
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