Question on charging the Vision spinner

[DavidOck]

I guess you could always try it both ways and see. (But if 4.2 is good, wouldn't 4.8 be better?)

One of my (4) Spinners has stopped charging. I thought I'd ask if there was anything I should poke or prod before I just throw it out. The battery is only 4-5 weeks old. When I plug it into the charger, it doesn't acknowledge that it's been plugged in. (ie no lights, etc.)

Might be the pin has been pushed down too far to make a connection to the charger. Use a small, stiff implement to gently wiggle up around it. If you get a tiny bit upward motion, it might make contact. It's not an unusual issue with them. Not all toppers have precisely the same dimensions, and its easy to overtighten them.

Uh, you didn't inadvertently turn it off, did you? 5-clicks? Or did it shut down due to low voltage?

 

[mclarkson]

I generally smoke/vape them until they give me flashing lights (I'm outa charge!). Then I plug 'em in the charge up.

The battery works with my Evod and Protank, so it plugs into them okay.

If I tap the button while it's plugged into the charger, the charger light momentarily turns red so some kind of connection is being made, but it doesn't recognize the charger.

I've tried pulling on the center pin to no avail. The battery seems fine (if outa juice). It just doesn't recognize when it's been plugged in.

 

[DavidOck]

Have you ruled out a faulty charger? I.e., does it charge other batteries?

Might try cleaning all the contacts?

Or maybe it's just so low it's going to take a while. Have you left it on the charger for any length of time?

 

[Caridwen]

I generally smoke/vape them until they give me flashing lights (I'm outa charge!). Then I plug 'em in the charge up.

The battery works with my Evod and Protank, so it plugs into them okay.

If I tap the button while it's plugged into the charger, the charger light momentarily turns red so some kind of connection is being made, but it doesn't recognize the charger.

I've tried pulling on the center pin to no avail. The battery seems fine (if outa juice). It just doesn't recognize when it's been plugged in.

I know it's no help to you now, but it's a good idea to invest in an inexpensive multimeter. Most of the suppliers carry them or you could even check Harbor Freights. You can use it to check your cartos/tanks, your battery, even your charger.

 

[Caridwen]

I generally smoke/vape them until they give me flashing lights (I'm outa charge!). Then I plug 'em in the charge up.

The battery works with my Evod and Protank, so it plugs into them okay.

If I tap the button while it's plugged into the charger, the charger light momentarily turns red so some kind of connection is being made, but it doesn't recognize the charger.

I've tried pulling on the center pin to no avail. The battery seems fine (if outa juice). It just doesn't recognize when it's been plugged in.

Your battery will last longer if you don't wait until it needs to be charged. Your battery has x amount of cycles, approx 200. If you charge before it needs to be charged it doesn't go through a complete cycle and it will last longer.

 

[Galactic Stone]

The setting on the potentiometer should have no bearing on the charging time. The voltage setting controls the output and has nothing to do with the charging. And Lithium ion batteries don't have memory, that is NiCad.

 

[mclarkson]

Thanks for the input.

I have four identical 1300mAh Spinner batteries and two identical chargers.

The other three batteries charge with no problems on both chargers.

The problem battery won't charge on either charger.

You know how, when you plug/screw the Spinner into a charger, the white light flashes several times and the charger light goes from green to red? That doesn't happen with this battery.

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

With your Spinner, charge it at 4.2v as well, dont turn it down to the lowest setting. I used to use one and mine took hours to charge as well. Then I got told to put it on 4.2v and its quicker. Not by alot, but mine was charging up in around 2 to 3 hours.

You mean the spinner charges at the voltage it's set for an doesn't bypass the setting to charge to a full 4.2vdc?

That's odd

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

Your battery will last longer if you don't wait until it needs to be charged. Your battery has x amount of cycles, approx 200. If you charge before it needs to be charged it doesn't go through a complete cycle and it will last longer.

That's because of this

How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University

Also be careful not to hork down on the head or the charger when screwing it in, it mashes the center pin down, crushing the rubber gasket insulator shorting out the unit

This is why i also brainstormed on something like this

I know it's not a spinner and larger..but would a replaceable battery with USB passthru capability be better in the long run?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/474907-viable-noob-rig.html

I really gotta get my hands on some eGo batteries so I can see what makes em tick and see if there is a way to "restore" these setup...most Li Ion will last almost a year with normal charging cycles

 

[Katya]

Thanks for the input.

I have four identical 1300mAh Spinner batteries and two identical chargers.

The other three batteries charge with no problems on both chargers.

The problem battery won't charge on either charger.

You know how, when you plug/screw the Spinner into a charger, the white light flashes several times and the charger light goes from green to red? That doesn't happen with this battery.

Is it possible that the battery is dead? If your connections are clean and you fiddled with the center pin and everything seems to be fine, I can't think of anything else. That said, those batteries can have a hard time sometimes to settle on the charger--they may blink furiously or the light may not turn red for a while even if the battery is depleted. Sometimes it helps to reboot the charger--I use a wall wart and I found that simply unplugging the adapter and the USB charger--and then plugging it all back in--solves the problem. The "handshake" takes place and the charging starts. Do you have a B&M vaping store near you? They could check the battery for you, maybe--if they know what they are doing.

Anyway, if you're using a 420mAh output charger, then your battery should receive 420 mA per hour, more or less. Which means that a 1300 mAh battery should charge fully in no more 3.5 hrs.

 

[THETOTALLYCOOL]

This thread's all over the place, so I'll add to the confusion.

I have a Vision Spinner, and also 5 Evod batteries. There's always a battery connected to the charge. I ordered a back-up charger and noticed it won't charge the spinner (LED remains green) but charges the others w/out incident. Gently prying the pin resolved the issue.

 

[DavidOck]

That does seem to be the usual problem, although of course there is the occasional bad battery or charger.

It's easy to overtighten a topper, which often depresses either the battery pin, the topper pin, or both.

I've found that, using a tiny screwdriver, dental pick, or something small and rigid, gently rocking the battery pin all around the circumference usually does the trick.

Not to say that batteries don't fail, but the silicone grommets aren't the toughest things out there!

 

[Gingy]

I also have a vision spinner and its my first e cig, everything has been going great with it, but lately ive been having some charging issues. Before my ecig would blink when I plugged it in and then stay on and the charger would flash green and red until full charge. But now when I plug my battery in it continuously flashes and the charger stays green and flashes red very quickly. What does this mean? When I unplug, the battery wont even turn on. Is it just all the way dead or is there a problem with my battery?

 

[DetraMental]

Gingy you may need to do a thorough cleaning of your battery and your charger. Make sure you unplug the charger before cleaning it.

 

[Gingy]

Gingy you may need to do a thorough cleaning of your battery and your charger. Make sure you unplug the charger before cleaning it.

Thanks for the advice! How should I go about cleaning it? Normally I just use a q-tip and rub around in both, the charger did have some crud in it last time. Should I use water or anything special?

 

[Caridwen]

I use alcohol.

 

[Gingy]

Ok, thanks.

 

[Gingy]

I cleaned everything and I am still having the same issue. Could I have a bad battery? Its brand new! /:

 

[DavidOck]

It is possible the battery is bad. Any mass produced item will sometimes cough up a lemon.

And, if cleaning both with the alcohol dipped swab, did you allow sufficient time to dry? While the alcohol will evaporate pretty quickly, if you saturated them, it could take an hour or so for all that's down in the thread to dry out.

But.

Do you have a friend who vapes? Can you try a different charger, or a different battery on your charger? That way you can rule out what works.

At this point, you don't know if it's the battery or the charger. If you can narrow it down to the battery, and it's brand new, see about a return / exchange.

 

[Caridwen]

I also have a vision spinner and its my first e cig, everything has been going great with it, but lately ive been having some charging issues. Before my ecig would blink when I plugged it in and then stay on and the charger would flash green and red until full charge. But now when I plug my battery in it continuously flashes and the charger stays green and flashes red very quickly. What does this mean? When I unplug, the battery wont even turn on. Is it just all the way dead or is there a problem with my battery?

Did you get it from someone local? I would contact them.