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Questions about DIY E-Juice as a newbie.

Discussion in 'New Members Forum' started by BGaulding, Oct 6, 2013.

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  1. BGaulding

    BGaulding Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2013
    Virginia, USA
    This may be a silly question but here goes anyways.. :blush: I've seen where several places online sell Unflavored E-Juice with the choice of PG/VG base & Nicotine as ready to smoke. Can I buy this then add my purchased flavor concentrates to it? Specially if it's the same PG/VG base & Nicotine strength? I'm not anywhere near ready to handle purer Nicotine & sure it will be years before I will be.
     
  2. MoonLit_Water

    MoonLit_Water We All Shine On Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 16, 2013
    Stuart, Florida
    Hello and Welcome


    Flavor concentrates are mostly PG based but this varies. You definitely DO NOT want to vape any thing over 24mg.

    check out this section DIY E-Liquid in depth before doing any DIY, and ask any and all questions you have

    oh yeah you can add flavor concentrates to the nic base but make sure you research DIY before you do
     
  3. Spazmelda

    Spazmelda Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2011
    Ohio
    Even people who DIY don't use pure nicotine. About the highest you'll ever see for sale is 10% (100 mg/ml). Pure nicotine is something like 996 mg/ml. Eek!

    Sure, you can do what you said. Your nicotine will get diluted as you add flavors though, so you might want to start with an unflavored that is a little higher than you normally vape. For example, if you have 12 mg/ml unflavored and use 9 of that and 1 ml of flavors, then your nicotine concentration will be 10.8 mg/ml. (9mlx12mg/ml)/10ml = 10.8mg/ml
     
  4. BGaulding

    BGaulding Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2013
    Virginia, USA
    Thanks! I found a few places who let you pick the PG/VG on the concentrates. That is what made me ask my silly question..
     
  5. BGaulding

    BGaulding Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2013
    Virginia, USA
    Ooooooh I see now. It just couldn't get it till just now. Maybe it's because I'm really, really tired at night reading the DIY. hahaha
     
  6. MoonLit_Water

    MoonLit_Water We All Shine On Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 16, 2013
    Stuart, Florida
  7. Blkwdw86

    Blkwdw86 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 6, 2013
    Gladewater, TX
    Do NOT even TRY to mess with pure nicotine! That's hazmat suit stuff. Even with the strong stuff available to us (60mg/ml and higher), personal injury or death is possible and extreme caution is required. Remember, anything that you do to yourself while vaping reflects on the community as a whole. If people don't police themselves with this activity, government will be more than delighted to do it FOR us. No accidents.

    As for PG/VG mixtures, some people are particularly sensitive to PG and make 100% VG juices. Others like the hammer of an all PG juice. Most go with the tradeoff between PG and VG in varying ratios. Unflavored nic solutions can be flavored as long as the nic amount is within your normal mg/ml range for consumption. Remember, whenever you add, you dilute. All percentages of ingredients drop when you increase the whole, calculate accordingly. For ready-to-go nic solutions, I would use super concentrated flavors, smaller percentages (dilution) are needed to achieve the desired flavor (2.5%) as opposed to regular flavorings (up to 30% in some cases).
     
  8. Spazmelda

    Spazmelda Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2011
    Ohio
    The calculators are very helpful, and very easy to use. I definitely recommend downloading one or two and playing around with them before you buy supplies. You can test how much of this and that you can add to get your desired nic concentration and pg/vg ratio, and that will help you figure out what supplies to get. I didn't mention changes to the pg/vg ratio in my previous post, because I didn't want to get too detailed, but adding flavor that is in pg (or vg) will of course change the amount of pg (or vg) in your base, and therefore change the pg/vg ratio. The calculators figure all this out for you. You can do it with math yourself, but the calculators make it easy. Then, bingo, you are doing DIY. LOL.
     
  9. Harlen

    Harlen Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 14, 2013
    Charlotte Nc
    I mix my own and you can get 100% nic so be on guard with what you order !!!! Stick to vaping supply stores B&M and online.
    Normally you can get 6 to 100/mg/ml
    USP is the only way to go food grade has things in it you don't wish to breath in.
     
  10. dice57

    dice57 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 1, 2013
    Mount Vernon, Wa
    I just started DIY juices, and loving it. The highest nicotine that most labs will sell is 100mg solution. You can get it in VG or PG base. I use this simple on line juice calculator, eJuice Recipe Calculator , that's real easy to understand and use. Have another one down loaded, but this was easiest to understand.

    I usually make a 10ml sample when trying a new recipe. That way if it sucks, no biggie. Make sure and check out the DIY section. Lots of helpful hints and suggestions on lab ware needed, vendors, etc. My first order was 18mg nic VG base, because they were out of the higher levels. Also ordered some mixing flasks, syringes for measuring, 9 flavor extracts that sounded good and some PG base,

    When I received notification that there 100mg nic base was in, I bought some, and VG, 5 more flavor extracts, and a couple more pieces of lab ware. Glad I got the nic base, 2 days later they were out. Probably have enough liquid for a year now.

    Was so amazed at the taste of my first trial, that I made 50ml and wrote down the recipe in by e-book, before I forgot what I did. Used some Captain Black Tobacco with a dash of Cinnamon Danish, ~80% VG, 9% flavoring. Was one of the best juices I've Vaped. MBV has lost a juice customer. lol

    I was hesitant to try DIY, more so than I was to try rba's. But after thorough research and studying the DIY section, and seeing what was up, plus all the whoopla about possible regulation, I decided to go for it. Am so glad I did. My juice cost is now about 1/4 of what I was paying from the vendors I used. I can adjust the flavor, nic level, and VG/PG %'s to my preferences. Get low on juice, it's off to the lab I go. lol. May still buy one or two of my favorites until I learn to replicate the recipe, but for now I am juice phat. lol
     
  11. BGaulding

    BGaulding Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2013
    Virginia, USA
    Thanks for the reply's. In my original post I meant to say that I didn't want to handle the Nicotine as of right now; not "pure" nicotine as stated above. Sorry about that!
     
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