Questions regarding batteries (18650)

[fugitiv3]

Hello everyone,

I have bought and waiting for deliver the Sigelei 30W.

I know that it takes 18650 model batteries so I have bought Sony VTC4 (2100 mAh) and AW IMR (2000mAh).

Now my questions are the below:

1) Are those batteries good? As i have read they are the most common in the vapers industry.

2) Also when should I charge them? Does the Sigelei 30w shows the voltages remained in the battery after you vape for a whole day? I have read in many threads that people charge their batteries when they reach 3.1 or 3.2 or 3.4 V... I dont quite get it how do they know when the battery reach that level?

3) Also can these batteries take me for a whole day? I use 1.8ohm at around 4.2V. Usually consuming around 3ml per day maybe 2ml sometimes.

Thanks for any suggestions or comments you will make.

 

[eratikmind]

Yes, those are both excellent batteries.

Keep in mind that the said AW IMR has a max continuous discharge rate of 10 amps and the VTC4 is 30 amps. You noted example will put you at around some 2.33 amps. So, you are to go with either battery.

I would suggest charging your batteries when they reach 3.6 volts. Get yourself a multimeter to check your batteries.

 

[fugitiv3]

Yes, those are both excellent batteries.

Keep in mind that the said AW IMR has a max continuous discharge rate of 10 amps and the VTC4 is 30 amps. You noted example will put you at around some 2.33 amps. So, you are to go with either battery.

I would suggest charging your batteries when they reach 3.6 volts. Get yourself a multimeter to check your batteries.

Thanks for your reply but what do you mean "AW IMR has a max continuous discharge rate of 10 amps and the VTC4 is 30 amps" what does this mean? If you can explain I will be glad.

Thanks

 

[eratikmind]

Thanks for your reply but what do you mean "AW IMR has a max continuous discharge rate of 10 amps and the VTC4 is 30 amps" what does this mean? If you can explain I will be glad.

Thanks

In the simplest terms that I can explain it . . . Look at amps as the rate of current flow.

You don't want your atty drawing more amps than the battery is capable of delivering. So, in your case, your atty is going to pull some 2.33 amps, which is way below what your batteries are capable of delivering, which is good.

You should not have any issues until you go really crazy with sub ohms. Just remember to properly maintain your batteries.

 

[Bunnykiller]

its basically the " horsepower" of the battery.... 10A is a low "horsepower" battery, the 30A is a high "horsepower" battery....
if you get into low ohm coils (subohm) you will need the 30A batteries since the low ohm coil will pull more amps. If you exceed the amp rating of the battery, the battery will be very unhappy and quit working and die.... and they die spectaculary sometimes with gas expulsion and smoke...

 

[tayone415]

In the simplest terms that I can explain it . . . Look at amps as the rate of current flow.

You don't want your atty drawing more amps than the battery is capable of delivering. So, in your case, your atty is going to pull some 2.33 amps, which is way below what your batteries are capable of delivering, which is good.

Easier way to explain it, use the link and enter your coils resistance and or voltage or wattage used and you will see your amp draw, just make sure it's always under your battery's maximum continuous output. In your case under 10 amps with the AW and under 30 amps with the VTC4

Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

 

[fugitiv3]

Thanks all for the great answers. Got it noW!!

Is there any guide in the forum o how to maintain the battery?

Thanks

 

[p7willm]

Almost all regulated mods, like the sigelei, keep track of the battery voltage and when it gets low they stop working. So, with a regulated mod you do not have to worry about running the battery too low.

 

[edyle]

Hello everyone,

I have bought and waiting for deliver the Sigelei 30W.

I know that it takes 18650 model batteries so I have bought Sony VTC4 (2100 mAh) and AW IMR (2000mAh).

Now my questions are the below:

1) Are those batteries good? As i have read they are the most common in the vapers industry.

2) Also when should I charge them? Does the Sigelei 30w shows the voltages remained in the battery after you vape for a whole day? I have read in many threads that people charge their batteries when they reach 3.1 or 3.2 or 3.4 V... I dont quite get it how do they know when the battery reach that level?

3) Also can these batteries take me for a whole day? I use 1.8ohm at around 4.2V. Usually consuming around 3ml per day maybe 2ml sometimes.

Thanks for any suggestions or comments you will make.

1) Yes.

2) The sigelei 30w will tell you the voltage; when the voltage drops too low the mod will cut off.

3) 2 to 3ml per day; I think one batt will last that long, but you'd probably need a spare; especially if you vape on the higher power side of things.

 

[edyle]

Thanks for your reply but what do you mean "AW IMR has a max continuous discharge rate of 10 amps and the VTC4 is 30 amps" what does this mean? If you can explain I will be glad.

Thanks

Power = volts x amps.

3 volts x 10 amps = 30 watts.
3 volts x 30 amps = 90 watts.

With the 30 amp battery you're good on the 30 watt mod.
With the 10 amp battery, you would be pushing it's limits if you let it get down to 3 volts and running at 30 watts.

 

[fugitiv3]

thanks again guys!! appreciate it!

 

[dice57]

Evolv recommends the Sony VTC5's. If pushing close to max output, the 10 amp AW's will stop being able to power the mod when it's volts drops to 3.9 volts, where as a 30 amp batt will power till down to ~3.4 volts. Even though you are vaping below 10 watts, would use the VTC over the AW, every day of the week. Just a much better batt, better, stronger, and to Vape tall buildings in a single pulse, or something like that

Personally feel the aw 10 amp batts suck the big one, their 18490 is a better batt.

 

[sandersj80]

I started out with a Panasonic 3400mah single 18650 battery for my mod. At the time, I thought that it was going to be a long-lasting battery and it was as long as you were running a VV/VW mod. However, I soon realized that it does nothing for a mech mod. So, after conducting more research I had realized that I needed something a bit more powerful in which I ordered a set of Sony VTC4 30A high drain batteries. I haven't regretted it yet as these batteries give me just what I need to drip plus I also have a backup battery as soon as one dies. These batteries are excellent and are highly recommended to anyone who uses a mech mod.

 

[Hemptation]

Yup. Really. I have found the best battery for what you are looking for. Is the 20 amp button top purple efest. Or the flat top purple efest. The flat top is only 20 amp. But it's 3100mah. Those batteries last a solid day in my Hana and provari.

All the way around. The don't is the best battery by far. But if your vaping at 4.2 volts. You might want something with a higher mah to last a bit longer for you.

There is a science in everything

 

[pnyc]

The Efest 18650-3100 is actually a 10A battery by their own declaration:

"Declaration of Efest IMR18650 3100mah battery

To all Efest customers:

We had heard about the testing report about the purple Efest IMR 18650 3100mAh
battery one week ago. Here we reply some common questions as below:

1. We tested the pulse discharging current of the purple Efest IMR 18650 3100mAh
battery is 20A(its continuous discharging current is 10A, higher capacity limits less
discharging current), so we mark " discharging current" is 20A."

 

[mackman]

Evolv recommends the Sony VTC5's. If pushing close to max output, the 10 amp AW's will stop being able to power the mod when it's volts drops to 3.9 volts, where as a 30 amp batt will power till down to ~3.4 volts. Even though you are vaping below 10 watts, would use the VTC over the AW, every day of the week. Just a much better batt, better, stronger, and to Vape tall buildings in a single pulse, or something like that

Personally feel the aw 10 amp batts suck the big one, their 18490 is a better batt.

AW IMR 18650 1600 mah is 24 amps.