R91 Clone w/ SS wick - great success.

[brickfollett]

I'm frankly mostly enjoying em because not so long ago, somewhat of an ideal design for me was Fogger V2/3, but it gave me so much grief on average it's just too much. My R91 clone has been next to perfect, but with Fogger V4 out I'll really have to see whenever I manage to get one. Also,

Man its so nuts how deep those channels are! This should be a second design for the Russian, maybe the "Mesh Russian 91%" or "The Russian Mesh Percent"

That has a nice jingle to it. I can definitely see why your clone is so much more successful with mesh than others

 

[brickfollett]

And I assume it would be a true statement that the fogger series would be regarded as a kayfun style atty? looks very similar, but with a twist or two

 

[SkvLTD]

I think that for once, buying some random-azz clone off of ebay actually paid off, and I've been saying that for a while now that it's vastly different from the original design. Now, what I wonder but most likely not dabble with is setting this thing up the normal way and not blocking those massive channels. I just don't see how whatever vacuum is involved can keep THAT much juice simply at bay.

 

[AMDTrucking]

I'm not along? Nice. Here is mine:

But I think Taifun GT works better with Mash:

 

[SkvLTD]

Nice man! I loved the ribbon wire while I still had some, but nothing beats 30' of nichrome for like 2-5$.

 

[AMDTrucking]

I agree, for the price...
Performance wise? I'm also a SS Mash lover, and the way Ribbon performs on the mash... And to make it even better, I use NR-R-NR method by welding silver leads to both ends to my ribbon. That way all 100% of my Kanthal is on the Wick. Here are some examples:

 

[WattWick]

No need to pay an arm and a leg for ribbon kanthal. Think I paid about ~$9 for 150+ feet of 0.8x0.1mm. What's a dollar more or less when you essentially get a lifetime supply?

 

[horton]

You are a very busy builder, AMD. Really like your wicks and coils. Do you prefer the Taifun over Kayfun? Been looking at them and curious now. TIA

 

[AMDTrucking]

100 feet of 0.1 X 0.8 A-1 Ribbon from Temco $14.55 Free Shipping Flat Ribbon Kanthal Wire RW0347 - 0.8 x 0.1 mm (0.0315 x 0.004 in) 100 FT 0.57oz Series A-1 Resistance

 

[AMDTrucking]

You are a very busy builder, AMD. Really like your wicks and coils. Do you prefer the Taifun over Kayfun? Been looking at them and curious now. TIA

For Silica and Cotton - Kayfun
For SS Mash - Taifun GT

Kayfun ES 3.1

Taifun GT

 

[horton]

The Taifun does look much more "agreeable" to SS mesh. It's so hard to settle on one type of RBA/RTA with all the choices out there....maybe best to try all of them.

 

[Glenn_K]

I'm pretty much done, for the foreseeable future, in terms of buying new vape gear (at least I hope I am ). But. If I were to get another RBA, I would be looking at a Z Atty for sure. In fact I almost picked one up a month ago, but at the last moment I opted instead for an AC9 off the classifieds (which I absolutely love btw, it's my favourite RBA).

I've got a couple KF/KF clones, and lots of mesh bits left over from genny builds, I have to try a mesh wick KF build, thanks for the above posts.

-- Glenn

Build was good, but I went back to the dark side...
That is the genesis side. I filled my Pyrex RSST back up the other day and forgot all about all that work I put in to the Russian. I think I'm just a genesis guy at heart unfortunately because I really do think the money was well spent on that darn Russian 91%, I just can't get as pleasurable of a vape out of it as I can my RSST. Thinking about purchasing a Z atty pro to finalize my Genesis commitment.

My buddy has one and is contemplating the trade I offered him, my Russian 91% + Original RSST for his Zen atty pro.

Hope he says yes!

 

[WattWick]

The Taifun does look much more "agreeable" to SS mesh. It's so hard to settle on one type of RBA/RTA with all the choices out there....maybe best to try all of them.

Cutting on the bias and using thick kanthal as rigid core was a revelation for me. Now all atties will submit to the mighty mesh.

 

[horton]

Cutting on the bias and using thick kanthal as rigid core was a revelation for me. Now all atties will submit to the mighty mesh.

Heck, it looks like even I could handle the Taifun....lol. Just a short, straight piece of mesh. Perhaps soon all mesh will yield to me too

 

[brickfollett]

I agree, for the price...
Performance wise? I'm also a SS Mash lover, and the way Ribbon performs on the mash... And to make it even better, I use NR-R-NR method by welding silver leads to both ends to my ribbon. That way all 100% of my Kanthal is on the Wick. Here are some examples:

Well now your just showing off... Haha that's too much for me man. I would like to get into NR-R-NR builds, but they don't seem to be warranted on my RSST. I can see the merits of ribbon though,that looks like it would be an exact solution to what I'm trying to achieve with my builds. Massive surface area coil covering as much of the wick as possible at reasonable ohms. I'm hoping the 26 GA will achieve that, but I know I'm going to need something like 16-17 wraps. Ribbon seems like it may be less tempermental for my needs. Is it truly necessary to hook it up with NR on the RSST, or can I attach the ribbon to the leads easily without getting hot legs?

 

[Glenn_K]

You got Horton to say the 'M' word, wtg!

-- Glenn

Cutting on the bias and using thick kanthal as rigid core was a revelation for me. Now all atties will submit to the mighty mesh.

Heck, it looks like even I could handle the Taifun....lol. Just a short, straight piece of mesh. Perhaps soon all mesh will yield to me too

 

[horton]

You got Horton to say the 'M' word, wtg!

-- Glenn

He's very devious, Glenn.... How did you get the cat to pose like that for you?

 

[SkvLTD]

He's very devious, Glenn.... How did you get the cat to pose like that for you?

Wouldn't you do the same in cat's situation? lol

 

[AMDTrucking]

Well now your just showing off... Haha that's too much for me man. I would like to get into NR-R-NR builds, but they don't seem to be warranted on my RSST. I can see the merits of ribbon though,that looks like it would be an exact solution to what I'm trying to achieve with my builds. Massive surface area coil covering as much of the wick as possible at reasonable ohms. I'm hoping the 26 GA will achieve that, but I know I'm going to need something like 16-17 wraps. Ribbon seems like it may be less tempermental for my needs. Is it truly necessary to hook it up with NR on the RSST, or can I attach the ribbon to the leads easily without getting hot legs?

A little bit of both: showing off and trying to explain that with the NR-R-NR you know your Resistance before you wrap your Coil. You completely eliminate "Hot Legs" and (the most important thing) An entire Leigh of your Resistant wire is in direct contact with your Wick. That's as efficient as it gets. Not to mention that Nickel or Silver is much easier to work with, it is more flexible and it makes much better electrical contact when connected than Nichrom or Kanthal. And, NO it is not required to be used in Genesis style Atomizers. It is up to you.

 

[brickfollett]

A little bit of both: showing off and trying to explain that with the NR-R-NR you know your Resistance before you wrap your Coil. You completely eliminate "Hot Legs" and (the most important thing) An entire Leigh of your Resistant wire is in direct contact with your Wick. That's as efficient as it gets. Not to mention that Nickel or Silver is much easier to work with, it is more flexible and it makes much better electrical contact when connected than Nichrom or Kanthal. And, NO it is not required to be used in Genesis style Atomizers. It is up to you.

So you wrap the ribbon around the wick without connecting it, then you wrap the NR exactly around the ribbon as well? like a NR coil on top of the ribbon, or just connect a single piece of NR to the top part and a single piece of NR to the bottom part? Thanks for that though, I think this may take my genesis experience to the next level

Edit: Your pictures seem to clearly show the NR is a attached a single piece to the bottom and a single piece to the top. You had to acquire a wire joiner for that correct?