Rage against the freshness! (Message to ejuice suppliers)

[TrashCat]

Why?

Why do we need “made to order” superfresh ejuice?

Does anyone actually WANT to receive their vapemail… Go “Yippeee”…

And then put it all away for weeks on end??

Look… I understand the need for customizations of VG levels for some… But at least take your major product lines, the most popular orders, and make bigger batches… Put them aside for a few weeks… THEN sell them to us!

Most ejuice retailers have a few years under their belts by now… YOU KNOW what sells well. Steep that!

Thanks… (end rant)

 

[Nukified]

I prefer my juice made by bottle rather than batches. Changing that would definitely lose me as a customer.

 

[Carla Sebrina Spahos]

I know what you mean. I know there's all this "to-do" going on with the Five Pawns prices, but when I ordered their sampler pack I was really pleased to see the birthdate of the samplers right there and they had been steeping for about 6 weeks. If more places did that and had to inflate their prices a bit due to stocking issues, I would pay more for a product I could use the first day.

 

[Nailz]

The steeping is very annoying, get excited to try a new juice, I don't want to wait a month to try it, they say it is like wine, that need to age, but you don't buy a bottle of wine and it tells you to put in a cupboard for a month with the top off, but also understand with all the different variations of juice, it is hard to have steeped juice to send out, just hope I find my ADV's soon, my cupboard is full of bottles with tops off steeping.

 

[Nukified]

The steeping is very annoying, get excited to try a new juice, I don't want to wait a month to try it, they say it is like wine, that need to age, but you don't buy a bottle of wine and it tells you to put in a cupboard for a month with the top off, but also understand with all the different variations of juice, it is hard to have steeped juice to send out, just hope I find my ADV's soon, my cupboard is full of bottles with tops off steeping.

To be honest, my new wines go straight to the cellar.

 

[Nailz]

To be honest, my new wines go straight to the cellar.

With the top off? I don't like wine anyway, so not really a good idea to relate that to the juice

 

[Nukified]

With the top off? I don't like wine anyway, so not really a good idea to relate that to the juice

With the cork of course

 

[TheSystemHasFailed]

Storage restrictions, customer variables. It just isn't positive for their bottom line. And that is what comes first AND foremost...not your juice.

 

[TrashCat]

I prefer my juice made by bottle rather than batches. Changing that would definitely lose me as a customer.

Why? I truly do not understand this. Your wine is made in HUGE batches, and then put into smaller barrels (still a big batch) before going into your bottle.

I'm asking to do this for the big sellers... The juices they KNOW sell well so that there is NO financial reason to not make bigger batches.

 

[Nukified]

Simply -- consistency. Sure there are protocols that can be used for a consistent liquid, but they don't always work. I don't want to buy a small bottle and get a big bottle that tastes completely different simply because they batched it without protocol. I prefer the person filling it knows exactly how much of what to put in, making sure it's all in the same bottle, then it's up to me to get the taste that I desire through steeping.

 

[TheSystemHasFailed]

Why? I truly do not understand this. Your wine is made in HUGE batches, and then put into smaller barrels (still a big batch) before going into your bottle.

I'm asking to do this for the big sellers... The juices they KNOW sell well so that there is NO financial reason to not make bigger batches.

Sure...but you are creating a situation that they don't experience. And the boutique vendors that have super high traffic just shut down more days a week than not.

It's never going to happen.

 

[JasonK94Z]

As long as they can still add flavor drops before shipping. I totally agree, makes vats of 50/50 with the popular flavors.

Of course I'm no pro so maybe there is good reason for not making large proportions of juice.


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[patkin]

I vape tobaccos... notorious for long steep times.... and this is exactly why I tried and stayed with Dekang. I only buy from vendors who don't repackage them. They steep in transit if they weren't steeped before shipment across the ocean.. dunno... but I've never had to steep one.

 

[Cyia]

I look at it this way. You prepare a family meal all in the same pans ect. You don't prepare everyone's plate individually. The only difference in this method would be for an allergy. Same scenario.

If there are popular juices, such as say Boba's Bounty that everyone and their mother are lusting after, make larger batches, steep them, bottle and sell. It doesn't have to be every flavor, but, signature ones should come steeped and ready to vape the day you get them.

And as far as storage concerns, since they'd only be doing signature flavors and not all of them, it wouldn't be a big issue. There are ways to work around such things, especially if there is a demand for it.

 

[Hulamoon]

I can understand the frustration, but as you find specific juices you HAVE to have on hand, you order e.g. two to begin with and then replace 1 when the first bottle is empty. Otherwise stick with smaller size bottles or samplers till you know what you can't live without.

 

[CookingWithGuns]

If most juices were pre-steeped at this point in time, prices would be much much higher per ml. Some of the bigger suppliers (like Halo) will pre-steep for you unless they have an abundance of orders and have to tap into a batch early. However most facilities don't produce on a massive scale and the only way to keep the cash flow good enough to stay in business is to sell fresh juice rather than pre-steeped.

 

[cags]

patience is a virtue

..........I guess that is annoying, but it's true

 

[oldnoob]

VG, PG, Nic level, flavor shot, sweetness, tartness makes tons of combination variables. Small vendor just can't afford to make large batch of each of them and put it aside wait for customer to come.

I will like to see more vendor give recommended steep time though. That shows me that vendor should be expert of the product they are selling and when will be the peak time to vape their juice.

 

[lasttango]

The few friends that I have that are vendors said they would if they could... but they'd be losing a lot of money... storage, overhead etc...

...but the main thing is that they can barely stay stocked with the ingredients for their juices... they either have cash flow issues from being unable to grow to the next level or their ingredients are controlled by other parties that can only supply them in short.

my advice to you is to order from larger more corporate vendors without the problems of small businesses... this is a small business issue... not incompetence.

 

[DoogieTony]

Think about all of the possible variations the vendor would have to account for. pg/vg ratios and nic levels alone would create tons of different product combinations and having that much product sit and then hope people buy it is just not really logical from a business perspective.

That being said, some vendors do offer pre-steeped juice and others make juice that most consider vapeable straight out of the mailbox. Another thing to consider would be brick and mortar stores, I would assume that their product would have sat for a reasonable amount of time.