Those don't work well for me cause I have a big problem with sweet vapes. I'll think of something to try it with.I definitely gives a milky taste. Go low % with it. Seems like it works ok with the fresh cream an meringue and marshmallow. I fell in love with that meringue flavor right out of the bottle. It might be a good stand alone flavor that if ya didnt know what it was it would be like damn, what is THAT?