Sometimes wish I could do pie recipes. Maybe someday my tastebuds will be more forgiving but I doubt it.
I don't remember what brand it is but think that I have pie crust. I ordered it in an early attempt at making a pie recipe that failed miserably.
Looks like I checked back in at the right time ... very interesting mix Francy!
I'm curious about the VT Whiskey in this though, is it the Scotch Whiskey or the Bourbon. I'm guessing it's the former and that causes some consternation for me ... I love bourbon but have never been able to acquire a taste for scotch. Okay, I'm going to make up a word here for the purposes of my question to you ... how 'scotchy' is this flavor in your opinion?
Oh one more, that is INW Shisha Strawberry right? Otherwise I'd have to think it was German Flavors brand instead, lol.
Glad you stopped at the right time,Haze. The VT Scotch Whiskey Probably is too much scotch for you. I'd go with the Bourbon. Yes the Shisha Strawberry is INWLooks like I checked back in at the right time ... very interesting mix Francy!
I'm curious about the VT Whiskey in this though, is it the Scotch Whiskey or the Bourbon. I'm guessing it's the former and that causes some consternation for me ... I love bourbon but have never been able to acquire a taste for scotch. Okay, I'm going to make up a word here for the purposes of my question to you ... how 'scotchy' is this flavor in your opinion?
Oh one more, that is INW Shisha Strawberry right? Otherwise I'd have to think it was German Flavors brand instead, lol.
Well,I had several failed mixes but most came close. I've remixed just one so far. Going to wait on my flavor testers before I do too much.
LOL my license came.
Man I'd be all ready to go but (albeit, I'll admit I've been anxious) the husband's job related PTSD, (while, it shouldn't raise HIS, ME getting a job) it seems to. All day I've been like "We're gonna sit down this afternoon and do benefit allocations, rite?" I mean, multiple times....
He says I never did and etc. I KNOW he doesn't hear some stuff when I talk in long sentences but he refuses to hear it's trauma/anxiety and gets mad at me for like, stating, "This afternoon again I am saying we will do benefits allocations and if it GOES well, after I'm hired I'm willing to a budget." (For the first time ever.)
Those were my literal words. Apparently I am doing them alone. Tomorrow. I know he's gonna calm down but right now I shall chill a bit, then taste some of my new juices with my new mech. Because when I go to the trouble of writing down, "I will write down important things," and he crumples it up, LOL.
It's probably time for me to get out of the house more. Etc. LOL.
Now, I suppose I have to figure out the scanner, too, unless he chills but jeez. JEEZ.
Just your typical day when *I* am getting hired. Guess it could be a bit emasculating, too, I'm not sure.
Pdoc is out of the country but I have an appointment Friday the 13th. LOL.
Anna
Thanks Fran, I'm definitely going to try this but I'll have to make some substitutions and not just the whiskey portion either. I'm also missing FLV Basil
but I may have something that I could sub for it. Am I correct in assuming that you are either the cause of or, at the very least, a contributing factor in the current OOS situation of this flavor at BCF? 
Last night I mixed up one I found on ELR with great reviews. People say it tastes like Cran-Apple juice and Loaded Cran-Apple juice by Ruthless.
The recipe called for CAP Supersweet and I used EM instead, based on the comments. I definitely don't think the Fuji is too strong - it probably takes that much to get any apple flavor with the cranberry. Anyway, I like it a lot (and didn't really expect to) so thought I would share it with you.
Cotton Candy (EM) (TFA) 2%
Cranberry (TFA) 7%
Fuji (FA) 4%
WS-23 .5% (certainly optional)
I mixed up another test batch of Cran-Apple today using 2% Fuji, a bit of INW Pear and a bit of FE Lemon. After it settles, I will test it and see which one, to my tastes, is better. If nothing else, I can mix the two together and maybe make some magic.
I'm going to try cran-fuji-dragon fruit.Last night I mixed up one I found on ELR with great reviews. People say it tastes like Cran-Apple juice and Loaded Cran-Apple Juice by Ruthless.
The recipe called for CAP Supersweet and I used EM instead, based on the comments. I definitely don't think the Fuji is too strong - it probably takes that much to get any apple flavor with the cranberry. Anyway, I like it a lot (and didn't really expect to) so thought I would share it with you.
Cotton Candy (EM) (TFA) 2%
Cranberry (TFA) 7%
Fuji (FA) 4%
WS-23 .5% (certainly optional)
I mixed up another test batch of Cran-Apple today using 2% Fuji, a bit of INW Pear and a bit of FE Lemon. After it settles, I will test it and see which one, to my tastes, is better. If nothing else, I can mix the two together and maybe make some magic.
Last night I mixed up one I found on ELR with great reviews. People say it tastes like Cran-Apple juice and Loaded Cran-Apple Juice by Ruthless.
The recipe called for CAP Supersweet and I used EM instead, based on the comments. I definitely don't think the Fuji is too strong - it probably takes that much to get any apple flavor with the cranberry. Anyway, I like it a lot (and didn't really expect to) so thought I would share it with you.
Cotton Candy (EM) (TFA) 2%
Cranberry (TFA) 7%
Fuji (FA) 4%
WS-23 .5% (certainly optional)
I mixed up another test batch of Cran-Apple today using 2% Fuji, a bit of INW Pear and a bit of FE Lemon. After it settles, I will test it and see which one, to my tastes, is better. If nothing else, I can mix the two together and maybe make some magic.
In spite of my experience with Inawera apple tasters I have no fear of apples under 5%.
My Inawera Bahraini taster is 10%
OK, I learned. The Cinnamon apple is 1% INW Bahraini 2% TFA Candy Apple.
But my INW Two (caramel) Apples is used solo at 5% and I have no regrets. I might back it down but it will be gradual.
INW two apples is a very good snv, but the skin gets so strong to me after a few weeks.In spite of my experience with Inawera apple tasters I have no fear of apples under 5%.
My Inawera Bahraini taster is 10%
OK, I learned. The Cinnamon apple is 1% INW Bahraini 2% TFA Candy Apple.
But my INW Two (caramel) Apples is used solo at 5% and I have no regrets. I might back it down but it will be gradual.
It does get stronger but it is so good with FA fuji
If you like apple then you need to try diyordie reds clone. Its really good
FA fuji 5%
Cap double apple 3%
INW two apples 1.5%
.5% sweetner
I haven't tried those percentages yet, love Cap double apple with fuji. Going to sub honeysuckle for sweetener tho.
This is the only recipe I ever took it that high but it is good. Interesting twist with the honeysuckle
I notice it just switching between different RDAs too then tack on different power/temp settings. That’s why I do all my recipe taste tests on the same RDA.
Thanks Anna, for sharing your impressions (and you to @Letitia; sorry that I forgot you were another DIYer with personal experience)
.I understand PEG400 is most commonly used as a substitute for PG. However, in this instance (Fran's trying to "de-sweeten" some of her mixes/concentrates), if the PEG400 might be used in place of the VG. Maybe even as the sole carrier (just flavor, Nic, and PEG400).
Is the PEG400 thick enough to prevent catastrophic flooding? And, is there any (too much) harshness to it, to prevent solo use?
That's why I was asking. If you were able to minimize/eliminate any inherent sweetness that might be coming from your base, maybe some of your "too sweet" recipes/concentrates might become acceptable.
But, instead of using it as a sub for PG (which I get no impression you have any problems with), I was thinking as a VG substitution. The NR description says:
"Polyethylene Glycol 400, USP is a clear, colorless, viscous liquid, the USP grade,..."
That made me think maybe a PG/PEG400 blend, or all PEG400 base, could take the place of your current PG/VG base.
Just thinkin' out loud... feel free to ignore me.
Here's PJ's grapefruit post: Random DIY mixing and More
I have always perceived a sweetness from the INW Strawberry Shisha. I once tried @AndriaD's strawberries & cream recipe that called for SS to be used at a whopping 18%. At that extreme, the shisha notes (predominantly honey, and a bit of incense(y) tobacco) really came out. But even at much lower (1-3%) percentages, I have found it to be a sweeter, more candy-like, strawberry.
As for the lemon note; I feel about lemon concentrates, the way you feel about lime concentrates... they all have some (some more; some less) semblance of "sweet" to them (including FA Lemon Sicily). It very well could all just be in my head; in the absence of any real "sour" note, my twisted brain tells me they must therefore be sweet.
But, right or wrong, that is my perception.I don't know if you ever use any other supplier besides BCF; but I found it still in stock at Nicotine River (and bought somethe current OOS situation of this flavor at BCF?
) this holiday. The price was the same.
I don't think I've taken fuji over 3%. Going to go with your percents tho. Apple & honeysuckle pair well together, somehow it isn't too sweet. Should be but...
PEG 400 isn't near thick enough to replace vg. That being said many successfully vape 100% pg so it can work.
Last night I mixed up one I found on ELR with great reviews. People say it tastes like Cran-Apple juice and Loaded Cran-Apple Juice by Ruthless.
The recipe called for CAP Supersweet and I used EM instead, based on the comments. I definitely don't think the Fuji is too strong - it probably takes that much to get any apple flavor with the cranberry. Anyway, I like it a lot (and didn't really expect to) so thought I would share it with you.
Cotton Candy (EM) (TFA) 2%
Cranberry (TFA) 7%
Fuji (FA) 4%
WS-23 .5% (certainly optional)
I mixed up another test batch of Cran-Apple today using 2% Fuji, a bit of INW Pear and a bit of FE Lemon. After it settles, I will test it and see which one, to my tastes, is better. If nothing else, I can mix the two together and maybe make some magic.
Thanks for sharing that. I will give it a try. I saw another one with 4.5 of kiwi and cranberry along with some sweetener.
Nope,not me. I only got one bottle. You could use FA Zen Garden if you have it.Thanks Fran, I'm definitely going to try this but I'll have to make some substitutions and not just the whiskey portion either. I'm also missing FLV Basil
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