Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2

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Vapin Dave

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I've never thinned the tails on any of my atties, except for the Erlk. But I'm not sub ohm'n, so maybe that makes a difference.
So far, I have thinned tails in my Griffin and one of my Aromamizers and it definitely helps. A noticeable improvement. I plan to do a rda next to see if it helps or not.
 

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If you've got Sally's it can have an off taste. You can pre-rinse it or soak it to remove any off taste.

Rayon dries extremely fast just barely touching one part to a paper towel. So you could wick it, set your tails and everything. Then drip water on it to soak the wick, fire it at lower power a few times then just lay it touching any part of the Rayon on a paper towel and it will be completely dry like new in no time, depending how much you fired it to evaporate the water.

I typically use the higher grades of rayon, so I don't have any issues with off taste.
So I can just soak the Sally's Rayon in water, dry and wick and no "off" taste?!? I'll try this when I get home. Thanks!

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im at 0.9 ohm stmini rba v1 dremelled.
theres a fine line when thinning the tail for this rba.
it needs to be at the point of it just b4 it wants to flood, tricky, yes, experience and experimenting helps.
length needs to be just hitting the deck but never "not" hitting the deck which would cause flooding, eventually if not right away.
newbs should thin to where they feel comfortable, then if they feel that its dry go back in and thin it some more, vape and repeat if desired vape is still not achieved.
but remember, leave it thick in the coil.
 

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Are you guys sub ohm'n? My typical build is a single coil @ around 1.5Ω.
I run fused claptons anywhere from 0.12 to 0.18. Been using rayon as my ONLY wick for a long time now. In fact, I can't stand the lack of flavor and side notes that any OCC coil gives me. Currently using a 0.18 fused in my griffin at 85w and a 0.15 fused at 100w in my Aeolus Lite. Never had an issue. I get SUPER disappointed when I have to dry burn my coils and rewick :p
 

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I hate the "new wick flavor". So I try to keep the same wick. Especially if, somehow, the planets aligned, God smiled, the Angels sang, Pux. Phil didn't see his shadow, the Cubs won the Pennant, and Einstein was wrong about Salami Waves, and I actually got the wicking right.

Was that a run-on sentence? Oh well. I try to keep the same wick. I'll ultrasonic the wick, but I'll also wash it under the tap. Just did that 5 minutes ago. Now vaping nicely. Still use the T-paper to dry it.

EDIT: I mean to say that I sometimes use the ultrasonic and I sometimes just rinse under the faucet.
Haha nice way to explain it!!! Been only a few times I've wicked PERFECT and had NO break in taste. I do my wicking thing, saturate with my juice and then fire, blow on the coils, repeat... I usually end up with just maybe a dozen pulls that taste off.... The rest for weeks is spot on!!! It's getting the density right that creates the funky taste. Or, not saturating the rayon enough before you start hitting it! IMHO
 

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I've been tire shopping for my bike... Looks like I am going with this one, I believe in rayon that much!!!
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Ok, so I'm assuming that the need to thin the tails is due to sub ohming. So next time I rewick, I'll thin the tails a mite, just to see what it does.
sub ohm has nothing todo w/it, its about how rayon wicks/transports liquids, its opposite of how cotton works.
if coil is not demanding for lots of power then thick tails should work as juice takes awhile to heat up.
but lots of users w/high ohms use lots of power to vape.
if ur setup works as is w/good flavor and no dry hits then ur good to go.
but experimenting on atty setup is not frowned upon, if not trying out different things then we would never know what works
 

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Ok, so I'm assuming that the need to thin the tails is due to sub ohming. So next time I rewick, I'll thin the tails a mite, just to see what it does.

Power level will make a difference. If your at 15w just about any wick job will work many times. If you optimize the flow too much you'll have to up the power or it will be way too wet. So really the final wick can be tailored to the power demand by fine adjustments to density and tails. As you demand more from the Rayon, you have to work it properly to get its peak flow rates... Density and tails become more important as more heat is applied. And yes I agree rayon does take longer to fully saturate before it's wicking is fully active.
 
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My observations about thick tails are more toward "back feeding", IE liquid leaching backward out of the coil. That leads to darkening of liquid in the tank and, if it gets bad enough, can effect the taste in a negative way.

I generally vape with full air flow, lung hits, and power in the 30 to 50 watt range. I trim the tails way back and have no problems with feed or darkening. My wife, who I just converted to RBA tanks, is a tootle puffer who rarely goes over 15 watts. I had to adjust the wicks in one of her tanks because of darkening the liquids, feed was fine. Incidentally, she loves her ERM+/DNA200 with a Fogger 4.1 on top. One ohm, 2.5mm, 28 gauge Kanthal coil and rayon wick at 12 to 15 watts.
 

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That leads to darkening of liquid in the tank and, if it gets bad enough, can effect the taste in a negative way.

Excellent! I hadn't even considered that before. I haven't noticed too much of the darkening, but I'm gonna pay closer attention in the future.
 
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