Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2

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That is the rayon wick in my Stumpy on a SX-Tmod squonker. I've put about 100mL through the coil and about 50mL through that wick so far. It's really hard to tell from the pic, but there is very little tail actually touching the deck... I'd say less than 1/8th (probably closer to 1/16th) of the total wick density. I've trimmed it just a touch since taking the picture, but all in all, it is working remarkably well. I don't normally run contact coils any more, but the Stumpy came to me with this coil in it and I've just been running it ever since. I'll probably do a Ti spaced coil whenever I do get around to changing it out because I'd like to see how the SX350J board does with TC. Either way... it'll be rayon. I'm past the one year point with that as my wicking material of choice, and I don't see that changing any time soon. The ceramic wicks are good, but when it comes down to cost comparison there's no contest! ;)
 

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@emotionalstabilitysloth I DIY as well, and I use rayon for tasting my flavors as well. Trick I use is I'll taste a flavor enough to know weather or not I like it, then drip some straight VG to clear the wick, vape, then on to the next flavor. Just thought I'd throw that out there :D


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Same here, Boomer... Rayon in an RDA is all I use for flavor testing when I DIY. No muss, no fuss... just run it dry, drip some VG, and move on to the next flavor... then when you're done you can just start vaping whatever you want without having to change a thing!
 

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Day 2 with my first 2 rayon wicks. One has been through 10-12ml the other about 5. Here are my observations so far. The one that's been through about 5ml, if that was cotton, it'd be gunking by now - fairly badly. However not even my coils have darkened really, there are a few dark specs on the wick at the edge of the coil but that's it. The coil would be fairly crusted if this was cotton and the wick would be very dark. It's a tobacco juice that wreaks havoc but the rayon is holding up incredibly well. I'd normally rewick at the 8ml mark but clearly the rayon will go at least double that.

The other isn't particularly a coil gunker but it is definitely cleaner after 10ml than it would be with cotton. No gunk whatsoever - none.

So in my experience with my first 2 wicks, you freaks are correct about 1) nic hit 2) longevity 3) flavor. Consider me a convert, a Rayonati Sloth or whatever you call yourselves :D

This morning both are spitting more than yesterday but seem to be simmering down the more I use them. They're not violent spits like I get with overwicking cotton but annoying nonetheless. But honestly if it doesn't get worse, it's fine. And I imagine as I get experience wicking with rayon, I'll be able to hone that in a bit.

I think I'll still use KGD for testing flavors. I diy and do a ton of flavor testing. For me KGD takes literally 2 seconds, and if all I'm doing is "mmhmm, that tastes good" or "yuck, never again," that'll probably be my go-to wick. For setups I intend to vape, it's rayon baby - all you.

Thanks to all for the heavenly information. That old thread's over 700 pages. I'll get through it in oh maybe a month :w00t:

oh PS I do think I'm a born natural and this is in fact easier to get right than cotton. We'll see if I eat my words as I try more than 2 measily wicks but dayyum that's easy to get a solid vape IMO (thanks to the detailed info particularly in the OP)


Ahh, your still new my friend. Not even a week yet is it. You have much learning to come grasshopper.. :)

Sounds like your just over dripping for rayon. It doesn't just run out of rayon unless it's just more than it can hold.

What I recommend you try in these problematic drippers is a wick with thinned tails. Then with another piece of rayon over top in the well, to act as your reservoir. If found rayon to wick to rayon very well, haven't done it in a long time but you may find it works great for you.
 

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Ahh, your still new my friend. Not even a week yet is it. You have much learning to come grasshopper.. :)

Sounds like your just over dripping for rayon. It doesn't just run out of rayon unless it's just more than it can hold.

What I recommend you try in these problematic drippers is a wick with thinned tails. Then with another piece of rayon over top in the well, to act as your reservoir. If found rayon to wick to rayon very well, haven't done it in a long time but you may find it works great for you.
:D I don't drip. I squonk. Excess juice is drained, blamo, gone :) that's not the spit action. It's seriously not bothering me though. And these builds spit with cotton in them just the same. It's usually just a small pop at the beginning of a vape :)

ETA I run Stumpy atomizers with the coil dead center between the posts, so theoretically I suppose these builds are more prone to spitback.
 

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:D I don't drip. I squonk. Excess juice is drained, blamo, gone :) that's not the spit action. It's seriously not bothering me though. And these builds spit with cotton in them just the same. It's usually just a small pop at the beginning of a vape :)

Hmmmmm... I'm not getting any spittin' from mine. Are you running single coil or duals? I've got a single coil in a Stumpy at 0.82Ω and pushing 40W. Super thin tails and the coil is centered in the deck (it's a two post atty).
 

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Hmmmmm... I'm not getting any spittin' from mine. Are you running single coil or duals? I've got a single coil in a Stumpy at 0.82Ω and pushing 40W. Super thin tails and the coil is centered in the deck (it's a two post atty).
Single just like yours, except it's just 26g nontwisted and spaced 2.5mm ID. It's about .75 ohms on a mech. It could be because you push some extra power (nice mod btw :) ) so maybe I just need to find a better build for my power range.
 

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Hmmmmm... I'm not getting any spittin' from mine. Are you running single coil or duals? I've got a single coil in a Stumpy at 0.82Ω and pushing 40W. Super thin tails and the coil is centered in the deck (it's a two post atty).

You guys may want to consider the resivour wick for those squonkers. Interesting to know how/if it works out. The Rayon should stay put if the fibers are laid nicely across the drain holes so they don't suck in.

More time between squonks maybe. Just interested to know.
 

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Single just like yours, except it's just 26g nontwisted and spaced 2.5mm ID. It's about .75 ohms on a mech. It could be because you push some extra power (nice mod btw :) ) so maybe I just need to find a better build for my power range.

Yeah, you might try dropping it down to .5Ω or so... rayon usually needs a bit extra.
Thanks! I'm very proud of it and honored to have received it as a gift. I don't think I'll ever need another mod for as long as I live! :lol:
 

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You guys may want to consider the resivour wick for those squonkers. Interesting to know how/if it works out. The Rayon should stay put if the fibers are laid nicely across the drain holes so they don't suck in.

More time between squonks maybe. Just interested to know.

I could try that out and let ya know how it works, Brother... you know I'm always down to try somethin' new! :thumbs:
 

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If I needed a lot of wick in the wells that would be the way I would go, rather than a big full wick tail. Long, dropping, curving Tails must be thinned in most cases...

I haven't really noticed that I need a lot of wick in the well. I've got 'em really thinned out and just a little in the well and it's been working pretty good so far. But I am interested to see if it'll hold a bit more juice and have to squonk less often. Sounds like a nice little experiment. I agree, it would probably work out a lot better than just stuffing a really long thinned out tail in there...

Anyway... gotta run for the night. See y'all tomorrow!
 

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Day 2 with my first 2 rayon wicks. - the rayon is holding up incredibly well. .. . No gunk whatsoever - none.

So in my experience with my first 2 wicks, you freaks are correct about 1) nic hit 2) longevity 3) flavor. Consider me a convert, a Rayonati Sloth or whatever you call yourselves :D

Rayon rules
 

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Peace, @Kaezziel! Have a good night :)

Yes Rayon does rule :) you're right I am in my infancy though. As I vape on one of these wicks I am thinking it will end up being a tad too thin :blush: but by the time it is, I'll have gone through enough of this juice to merit rewicking if it were cotton, anyway :lol:

As to the reservoir wick that's an interesting thought but I'm of the squonker school of thought that minimal wicking on the deck is best. Just touching. Otherwise it won't flood and drain as well. I still may try it though, why not :vapor:
 
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