Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2
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So how's it working?
Next build you may consider making the coil bigger in diameter or the same size as the slots. Using pg I would say slot size for maximum wick in the slots. I would say 3mm may be too much for you though, maybe 2.5mm.. Then wick it straight through and cut outside the cup.
I would increase your coil diameter, you have plenty of wire to increase and stay at the same ohms. Your at 15 wraps right now. As long at you have at least 7-9 wraps you'll be good. If possible space the coils a little bit. After this you will need about 3-5w more power to provide your excellent vape, or get the same temp your used to on cotton but better performance.
Micro coils are not needed, it's a hassle that's done to try to improve flavor from cotton. Your wattage will not be the same as on cotton. It will be higher so don't be afraid to crank it up and see.
I'm learning about this cubis, interesting, you may want to try wicking it like I do the flash e-Vapor, use thin tails to drop down over the deck.
This may help you because you won't be dealing with separate little pieces, you mentioned were trouble. But you will need a larger coil so you have a little more tail to work with.
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This is the Cubis RBA Head Krisma is using, there is no deck to speak of. It's like a little tiny Taifun chamber without an airtube. The large bottom hole is filled with the positive pin plug and the two little holes provide juice.
It must siphon the vapor up as you draw, the air holes & control are part of the top cap.
This is the Cubis RBA Head Krisma is using, there is no deck to speak of. It's like a little tiny Taifun chamber without an airtube. The large bottom hole is filled with the positive pin plug and the two little holes provide juice.
It must siphon the vapor up as you draw, the air holes & control are part of the top cap.
And just to add, included instructions with this RBA, state to add a thin layer of cotton to the flat bottom section, as the holes needed for a vertical coil can flood when you do a horizontal coil like the one in the photo you posted. The tiny screws suck, soft metal strips way too easy. One lead is grommet captured NOT ideal for temp control builds. They could have done a better job on these RBA's, something like the Subtank RBA's would have been better. Hoping they revise the RBA soon!
Yeah, they all pack cotton down over those holes in the base/ deck.. Instead of using separate pieces just trim some little tails to lay down there like I do with the flash e-Vapor. But smaller obviously. I think it may work great and they would stay more in place around the walls and on that ledge.
Hey guys, my preferred method for breaking rayon in is after she's totally drenched. Lower your normal power a little and blow the first 5-10 drags straight out the atty, just make sure it doesn't go dry, resaturate and the flavor will be much better on your first vape.
Thanks again for this great thread..A lot to take in..
Anyways, going to attempt my first builds ever and start with rayon.
From what I've read I will/should increase wattage to run rayon.
Question is:
Can you recommend coil size/ohms so I can stay under 15w? I have 28-30g kant. A1.
Normally run factory coils 1.5-1.6 at 10/12watts and would like to stay in the wattage area.
I can/will go to steam engine, but don't think I'll find the rayon answer I'm looking for.
And Jeremy when you say blow the first few drags breaking in a new coil..are you blowing through the drip tip or in the air inlet and out the drip tip?
TIA for any help. sorry for the dumb questions but I'm new to this.
Anyways, going to attempt my first builds ever and start with rayon.
From what I've read I will/should increase wattage to run rayon.
Question is:
Can you recommend coil size/ohms so I can stay under 15w? I have 28-30g kant. A1.
Normally run factory coils 1.5-1.6 at 10/12watts and would like to stay in the wattage area.
I can/will go to steam engine, but don't think I'll find the rayon answer I'm looking for.
And Jeremy when you say blow the first few drags breaking in a new coil..are you blowing through the drip tip or in the air inlet and out the drip tip?
TIA for any help. sorry for the dumb questions but I'm new to this.
I vape a single coil around 40w typically. If your at 10-12, 13-15 should be about the same heat as 10-12... the reason is the added saturation cools the coil more. You may not need to go up if you don't want to.. but you can. Youll see things are much different with rayon as it doesn't burn. Just the coil will overheat
Just instead of drawing in blow through at the drip tip. Just opposite of what you normally do to take a vape. Depending on the type and your density, if it's pretty tight, there can be a little off taste at first and this eliminates the majority of that.. Most have never done this in the past. But it's what I've been doing as I've become more selective in my rayon.
Just instead of drawing in blow through at the drip tip. Just opposite of what you normally do to take a vape. Depending on the type and your density, if it's pretty tight, there can be a little off taste at first and this eliminates the majority of that.. Most have never done this in the past. But it's what I've been doing as I've become more selective in my rayon.
Oh also... If your vaping that low, the perfection of the wicking is much less of a issue. The lower the power the wider the range of density you can get by with, the higher the more important things become including tails.. It should work pretty well for you the first time. Your not stressing the wicking very much at all.
There's no dumb questions swampus! We're glad to help new vapors get started and make their vape life much easier.
There's no dumb questions swampus! We're glad to help new vapors get started and make their vape life much easier.
So how's it working?
Next build you may consider making the coil bigger in diameter or the same size as the slots. Using pg I would say slot size for maximum wick in the slots. I would say 3mm may be too much for you though, maybe 2.5mm.. Then wick it straight through and cut outside the cup.
I would increase your coil diameter, you have plenty of wire to increase and stay at the same ohms. Your at 15 wraps right now. As long at you have at least 7-9 wraps you'll be good. If possible space the coils a little bit. After this you will need about 3-5w more power to provide your excellent vape, or get the same temp your used to on cotton but better performance.
Micro coils are not needed, it's a hassle that's done to try to improve flavor from cotton. Your wattage will not be the same as on cotton. It will be higher so don't be afraid to crank it up and see.
I'm learning about this cubis, interesting, you may want to try wicking it like I do the flash e-Vapor, use thin tails to drop down over the deck.
This may help you because you won't be dealing with separate little pieces, you mentioned were trouble. But you will need a larger coil so you have a little more tail to work with.
It's still going well. I am a complete klutz when it comes to making coils that are round (I normally just wrap kanthal around braided silica) so these were just some precoiled ones I had for my Sophia. I do have all the coil winder gadgets and wire so I will give it another go today.
The little screw was mentioned. It's too small for my eyes and hands (older gal) so I bypassed and just went either side of the insulator the same as a protank etc. As a tootle puffer it's ok because I don't vape hard enough to melt the insulator
I think it might be easier to lay a piece of damp rayon down before you install the coil. I have some spare tanks and RBA's and plan to set up another one today. I want to get up to at least 1.5-1.8 to work properly on my wood mods.
I appreciate the help
That's exactly how I want to set mine up with the added 2-3 sec light vaping technique. Because of that..... I find I need to go thin gauge to get the quick ramp up speed.
I know what you mean I used 32g for the longest time with the old 15w mods. But you can use the same wire and make the coil bigger diameter, if needed.
I have a saying, if it's working don't mess with it... Unless you just want to.
I also take 2-3 second vapes but with more power, bigger wire, and lung hits.
I have a saying, if it's working don't mess with it... Unless you just want to.
I also take 2-3 second vapes but with more power, bigger wire, and lung hits.
Hey guys, just posting here to say thanks, as this thread is what triggered me to try Rayon a while ago. Since I made the switch, no cotton comes close. The flavour is better, wicking is faster/more forgiving, RTA's never leak due to the density inside the coil -> fluffiness outside, a 'dry hit' is just flavourless rather than burning death throat, and even if you really push it to a burnt hit, once you let it re-absorb, the wick will last until you can get home to swap it out. I've told all my friends and they've all made the switch.
I'm sure there is something better out there, but for me, it's solved every single issue I've ever had with cotton, so I no longer have to think about it. I order a few metres and it does the job every, single, time. The fact it comes in a long, consistent strand is brilliant too - 4mm: nearly full width, 3.5mm: tear 1/3 off, 3mm: tear in half, 2.5mm and lower, I have plenty of tear-offs to use - no wastage. Then because it actually works better the more you stuff in, you can attempt to put it in, if it's too tight, tear a bit off, try again.
I'm sure there is something better out there, but for me, it's solved every single issue I've ever had with cotton, so I no longer have to think about it. I order a few metres and it does the job every, single, time. The fact it comes in a long, consistent strand is brilliant too - 4mm: nearly full width, 3.5mm: tear 1/3 off, 3mm: tear in half, 2.5mm and lower, I have plenty of tear-offs to use - no wastage. Then because it actually works better the more you stuff in, you can attempt to put it in, if it's too tight, tear a bit off, try again.
Great to hear Danneh. Not really anything better than rayon.
Once you go rayon you'll never go back
Once you go rayon you'll never go back
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So, I got one of these crap occ coils with the bachelor. Tried it for a second and pulled the wick and coil. Cotton still wet with juice... Laid it on a paper towel and 3+ days later the cotton was still ... wet. Didn't transfer the juice.
Just pulled a rayon wick out wet, laid it on a paper towel and less than 2 hours later the wick is dry and looks new. Juice transfered completely to the towel.
It's quite amazing if your coming from cotton.
Shows cotton doesn't release or transfer juice to your coil very well.
Just pulled a rayon wick out wet, laid it on a paper towel and less than 2 hours later the wick is dry and looks new. Juice transfered completely to the towel.
It's quite amazing if your coming from cotton.
Shows cotton doesn't release or transfer juice to your coil very well.
Indeed, I've got standard pads, KGD, cotton bacon, just sat in a drawer because the rayon is all I use. When I get a new tank or dripper, the wick is spot on the first time.
Also I forgot to mention how long it lasts! I DIY with FA concentrates so all my juices are clear and not particularly gunky, but my wicks last, well, I've not had to change a wick due to gunk yet. Only time my wicks get scrapped is when I build a new coil. My Aromamizer was about a month, only swapped it because I passed it on to a friend after my Supreme arrived. My Indestructible is at about two months! Granted that is on my 'out on the piss' Noisy Cricket, but it gets some hammer when I'm using it. Kayfun Mini V3 clone arrived this morning, first wick - bang on.
Think I've reached vaping nirvana, got a mod for every occasion and style of vaping, got my coil builds and wicking material nailed, for the first time since I actually got 'into' vaping, there's nothing I want to buy. Well, besides a squonker, but I have a custom Reuleaux in the planning...
Also I forgot to mention how long it lasts! I DIY with FA concentrates so all my juices are clear and not particularly gunky, but my wicks last, well, I've not had to change a wick due to gunk yet. Only time my wicks get scrapped is when I build a new coil. My Aromamizer was about a month, only swapped it because I passed it on to a friend after my Supreme arrived. My Indestructible is at about two months! Granted that is on my 'out on the piss' Noisy Cricket, but it gets some hammer when I'm using it. Kayfun Mini V3 clone arrived this morning, first wick - bang on.
Think I've reached vaping nirvana, got a mod for every occasion and style of vaping, got my coil builds and wicking material nailed, for the first time since I actually got 'into' vaping, there's nothing I want to buy. Well, besides a squonker, but I have a custom Reuleaux in the planning...
My goal is to get to a point where I understand how to make a consistent setup in this particular head.
I have three types of gear. My carto tanks with Sophia's, my billet boxes with bridge/kangaroo and my wood mods (Cubis tanks) that I am currently using factory 1.5 Clapton coils. Everything works beautifully but the factory Cubis coils where I dislike the cotton taste. Once I fix that then I will be a happy camper
I have three types of gear. My carto tanks with Sophia's, my billet boxes with bridge/kangaroo and my wood mods (Cubis tanks) that I am currently using factory 1.5 Clapton coils. Everything works beautifully but the factory Cubis coils where I dislike the cotton taste. Once I fix that then I will be a happy camper
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