Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2
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Probably as much as I paid for $6 worth of dm Viskose.you'd freak if you knew what i paid to have a 3lb box of rayon shipped to Australia!
I got the Zeus X wicked with Rayon and first attempt turned out okay I guess... sort of dry hit city lol but I might of overheated the 430 SS single coil in TC mode. I couldn’t figure out how to change the temperature on my mod just the wattage! I haven’t used TC in two years at least and need to refer to the user manual. I got it in SS430 mode on the Hohm Wrecker G2 but hit it at 450 degrees which I fear is too hot? As I mentioned before couldn’t figure out how to turn down.
Been using about 60 Watts instead in digital Watts mode. Works pretty good albeit dry hitting a bit. The coil is a single coil SS430 22G, 5 wraps, 4mm ID. It’s resistance varies between 0.17-0.20 ohm. Thinking of trying SS316L 22G, 4 wraps, 4mm ID. The 316L shouldn’t fluctuate in resistance if I remember correctly.
My rayon through the coil might be a tad thick but it felt right at the time. I put half the rope of rayon into the juice channel didn’t pack in just so the tails are lightly resting in there above the floor of the deck.
Been using about 60 Watts instead in digital Watts mode. Works pretty good albeit dry hitting a bit. The coil is a single coil SS430 22G, 5 wraps, 4mm ID. It’s resistance varies between 0.17-0.20 ohm. Thinking of trying SS316L 22G, 4 wraps, 4mm ID. The 316L shouldn’t fluctuate in resistance if I remember correctly.
My rayon through the coil might be a tad thick but it felt right at the time. I put half the rope of rayon into the juice channel didn’t pack in just so the tails are lightly resting in there above the floor of the deck.
Off hand, 1/2 of a Sally's/Graham "rope" is not enough in a 4mm coil. I use that much in a 3mm coil. That would explain the "dry" hits. Maybe consider lowering the power to avoid that until you re-wick. 450F won't hurt rayon n the least.
Like we used to say in the G2 thread, Silver Wreckers hit the hardest. 
The Wrecker is a fiddly thing to get a great working TC on, I would get the vape perfect in watts mode first before you started tinkering with TC. Not all SS wire is the same and the preset SS430 or SS316 modes don't always work out, you might have to put it in xXx mode and do some fine tuning.
Edit: All SS wire will rise in resistance as it heats up.
The Wrecker is a fiddly thing to get a great working TC on, I would get the vape perfect in watts mode first before you started tinkering with TC. Not all SS wire is the same and the preset SS430 or SS316 modes don't always work out, you might have to put it in xXx mode and do some fine tuning.
Edit: All SS wire will rise in resistance as it heats up.
I use the full strand in 4mm coils and sometimes have to add a little. 22ga is nice wire to work with I usually run at least 6 or 8 wraps with it though. You can feed the strand of Rayon in and pull it through with the Leatherman without any deformation of the coil, my kind of coil!
I’m not sure. I got some from somebody last year and I’m still not running out. But I did order the Comair, because shipping was free, so €10,84 for a kg is pretty good.
I don’t have anything to compare it to though. Never had Tidi or Graham.
@Rossum I finally got around to snapping some pics of my used wicks, and a comparison shot of what they look like before witting. Am I doing something ring? Getting about 2 days before replacing, which is still double what cotton was giving me.
They don't look combed out..as you near the end of the wick..the tails should be much thinner..to offset tank flooding you would aim for a fan shape.. Often called the "dam" to hold back the eliquid.
I only use RDAs, so over-squonking is my only flooding concern. I'm more interested in thoughts about how shrunk the wick gets inside the coil compared to the shoulders. I'm thinking I could be scorching the wick, but also maybe too little to begin with, and I should try and stuff more into the coil?
The main school of thought is to put enough rayon through the coil until you can hear the “rayon squeak”. Most of us hold the coil as we pull the rayon thru. Try that it should give you wick longevity unless you’re using really sweet ejuice & it really gunks your coil up.
I use enough that I have to stabilize the coil with a thumb nail as I'm pulling it through as well as form, and sometimes twist, the feed end to get it all through. That usually means re-arranging the coil to get it symmetrical again. I fan both ends after an initial trim for length, the cut at least half of that off, length wise, to start thinning. Since you're dripping, you only need a minimal amount of tail in the wells so keep trimming for length and thickness. I normally wet the wick for final trimming so it is more like what it will be during use, plus it stays put as I work. Just a little messier that way.
I use tobacco flavors, exclusively, and normally get around 200ml, or more, out of a build. Having no, or very low, sugar content reduces carbon build-up dramatically.
I use tobacco flavors, exclusively, and normally get around 200ml, or more, out of a build. Having no, or very low, sugar content reduces carbon build-up dramatically.
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I'm lucky to get past 50mL on a wick, any longer than a week, or thinner tails than you see in the wet picture, and I get spitting. The tails in the dry picture haven't been thinned yet.
I find spitting and popping are generally from too little rayon in the coil. As it settles in air gaps open up.
That's the experience I have, and leaves me wondering if I'm not actually scorching the wick in the coil over time, and it's size difference isn't just due to shrinkage...
Every two days? OMG! I'm using rayon in winter as usual and I have 8 rta/rda in rotation. Rewicking 1 every week has me vaping always on new wicks. Not to mention the BB and Bantams, that would make 12. So my things see rewicking once every three months! A pack of Cotton Bacon lasts me almost a full year (I wick with that over the summer).
Yes, that's the rub. Too tight in the coil can cause the scorching. That can come from twisting it tightly for insertion and not getting it straightened (untwisted) back out.
I'd call that subscription wick. The company buy a cheap commodity, claim to modify it in some proprietary way that makes it superior but mainly serves to obscure its its origin and nature, parcel it out in small quantities in pretty packaging, and then market it for a premium that works out to a steady monthly revenue. I'd rather have a 40' box of the commodity thanks.
Much like how I will buy a kilogram of coffee beans for $12 that lasts for weeks and makes at least a hundred cups, instead of individually packaged 'pods' that cost $1 a cup, or even worse, coffee-flavored milkshakes from Starbucks at $5+ per cup.
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