Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

[SlickWilly]

Similar to this but I started using a 1/16 bit from reading posts in the clearomizer forum. I pull off about a pencil wide strip a few inches long and keep using the pointed end in the next coil, snipping as I go. I don't prime them. Some don't work well. I have some altoid tin bottoms marked New, Good and Bad for clearo coils. If a coil acts up, it gets tossed in the bad for rebuilding and another one put in. I'm not even bothering to wash or soak any more.

I had problems with some coils giving dry/burnt hits in my clearo coils but I figured out the problem. It always happen shortly after I refilled the clearo and I prime my wicks so I couldn't figure out why it was happening until a few nights ago, ends up I was getting a vapor lock and the juice couldn't wick. With the rayon I use more then I did with cotton and that was choking off the wick. Now I unscrew the base a half turn in my Kanger T3S's for the first 20 or so draws after refilling. That takes a little pressure off the rubber washer on the top of the coil holder which takes pressure off the wick, I can see the little bubbles coming off the wick after I take hits. I also take about five cold hits before I fire a new coil, I can see the bubbles rise from these cold hits so I know juice is filling the wick. After that the wicks last me 10-15 days before the coil junks up and I get a burnt hit because of that. I toss my bad coils in a pill bottle, I'll pull them apart, put the pieces in the bottle with hot water, cap it and shake, drain, refill and repeat a few times. Then dump the parts on paper towels to dry for a day or two, then sort and put the parts in my little rebuilding supplies/parts bin. I build coils when I need one, it only takes a few minutes, I don't save any old coils, it's too easy to just build a new one. Works for me but YMMV.

 

[MikeE3]

Killowatt,

It sure is nice to get a real supply of wick material for $12 bucks. I had become accustomed to paying $16 dollars for two feet of READYxWICK.

Now I can foul up a wick without feeling like I just poured the baby's milk down the sink.

Now I find myself trying new wick configurations just for kicks.

Yep, me too - I was using ReadyXwick before rayon came into my life. Like the cost reduction and really like not having those little sparkly bits all over my work area when wicking with ReadyXwick. Always wondered how much of that I was inhaling.

 

[HolmanGT]

Yep, me too - I was using ReadyXwick before rayon came into my life. Like the cost reduction and really like not having those little sparkly bits all over my work area when wicking with ReadyXwick. Always wondered how much of that I was inhaling.

MikeE,

I was never very comfortable with "Silica Shards" in the air stream or my hands either. But I have the uncanny ability to ignore things that may deprive me of what I want.

I used to work with fiberglass and was told by a doctor that inhaling that stuff is very much like asbestos and can cause a disease called silicosis pretty much the same thing that the asbestos does. Now of course it take a fair amount to harm your lungs but I can tell you from personal experience if you make the mistake of rubbing yours eyes while handling XC-116 you will truly regret it. And oh by the way once that silica gets into your *whatever* it is there for ever. The body can't break it down another good aspect of cellulose (biodegradable) which is broken down in the body as sugars and eventually makes it's way to the great underground pipe line to the sea.

 

[Looney Bin]

Well I picked up my first dripper at my local shop last week, it's a cheap ($15) little guy like this one
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It took me a few times to get a good 1.3 ohm coil and wick combo with rayon to use on my new Vamo. All I can say is WOW! I never thought I was missing this much. Now I really know what throat hit is and the flavor of my juices is damn good, the DIY black raspberry from MFS is wonderful! I've been using rayon to wick the coils in my T3S's the last month and have been real happy with it, I had to drop from 24mg of nic to 18 in the clearo's but I'll really have to cut it back in this dripper, the first night I used it I thought my head was going to explode LoL.

Now I have to decide what tank type to get, the Fogger, the Rose V2, the Kracken.... I guess that will be my next move up. Three years ago I gave up the cigs, all I wanted was to keep from smoking, keep the cost to a minimum and not fall into mods, drippers and such. I bought the dripper for testing my DIY mixes but I guess I won't be able to hold back. There's a lot of good options for vaping, too damn many!

Come to the dark side. We have clouds and delicious juices.lol

Seriously, a well built Kracken is one of my go to builds. Im super excited to get through the tank of juice on mine to switch from a cotton to rayon build. I built the Kracken many different ways with my favorite being a modified cotton U wick setup. Coiled like a horizontal Rda coil with U wick style setup. Awesome flavor and solid vapor from a 1.3ohm single coil with a regulated 11-14 watts. Rayon should be even better.

 

[SlickWilly]

Never mind.....

 

[Looney Bin]

Just finished .35 ohm 26 Guage kanthal parallel single coil build in a tobh clone. Vaping some Charlie's Noble posiden's punch. Killer clouds and flavor. Lip smacking good.


The more I build with Rayon, the denser and bigger I keep making the wicks thickness wise. As opposed to cotton the rayon seems to compress down more with juice in them. I'm building them dense but doing it by compressing them down and elongating them. Not twisting. Making them just about as big as I can without mangling the coil when pulling the wick through. So far so good.

 

[HolmanGT]

** cleaning up **

SlickWilly,

I don't think you want the rayon from Staples. They claim "Coated with 100% pure aloe vera to help soothe and moisturize dry, irritated skin caused by frequent hand washing and glove-wearing".

Don't think you want to vape Aloe Vera unless your lungs are getting dried and cracked.

 

[SlickWilly]

SlickWilly,

I don't think you want the rayon from Staples. They claim "Coated with 100% pure aloe vera to help soothe and moisturize dry, irritated skin caused by frequent hand washing and glove-wearing".

Don't think you want to vape Aloe Vera unless your lungs are getting dried and cracked.

Oh! I didn't see that! I'll delete my post, don't want folks buying them..... Good catch and thanks for letting me know.

 

[f1vefour]

MikeE,

I was never very comfortable with "Silica Shards" in the air stream or my hands either. But I have the uncanny ability to ignore things that may deprive me of what I want.

I used to work with fiberglass and was told by a doctor that inhaling that stuff is very much like asbestos and can cause a disease called silicosis pretty much the same thing that the asbestos does. Now of course it take a fair amount to harm your lungs but I can tell you from personal experience if you make the mistake of rubbing yours eyes while handling XC-116 you will truly regret it. And oh by the way once that silica gets into your *whatever* it is there for ever. The body can't break it down another good aspect of cellulose (biodegradable) which is broken down in the body as sugars and eventually makes it's way to the great underground pipe line to the sea.

The silica shards are not like asbestos, they have a much larger diameter and can't enter the lungs the same way. I'm not a doctor so I can't be more specific but I read an article about it about a year ago. To enter the lungs as you describe something has to be smaller than say 0.3 nanometers in diameter, silica is like 14 nanometers in diameter (for instance not exact numbers).

That said I don't vape on anything other than cotton or rayon since I don't want any extra irritation silica may be providing.

 

[JeremyR]

Just finished .35 ohm 26 Guage kanthal parallel single coil build in a tobh clone. Vaping some Charlie's Noble posiden's punch. Killer clouds and flavor. Lip smacking good.


The more I build with Rayon, the denser and bigger I keep making the wicks thickness wise. As opposed to cotton the rayon seems to compress down more with juice in them. I'm building them dense but doing it by compressing them down and elongating them. Not twisting. Making them just about as big as I can without mangling the coil when pulling the wick through. So far so good.

Welcome looney Bin!

Glad your liking the rayon.

This method can work well, all you have to do is produce the right density. Period..

Hey loon let us know how it works out for you. If you get the density down maybe post pics of your wick and coil. Thanks.

 

[Tbev]

The silica shards are not like asbestos, they have a much larger diameter and can't enter the lungs the same way. I'm not a doctor so I can't be more specific but I read an article about it about a year ago. To enter the lungs as you describe something has to be smaller than say 0.3 nanometers in diameter, silica is like 14 nanometers in diameter (for instance not exact numbers).

I think that's what they used to tell people about asbestos... JK, ....... Maybe.

I don't use silica.

 

[f1vefour]

I think that's what they used to tell people about asbestos... JK, ....... Maybe.

I don't use silica.

It may have been.

I don't vape with silica either but I would in a pinch (ain't skeere'd) . I just don't want people thinking silica wicks are anything like asbestos, that is just misinformation. I know that's not what they said it's just one could read what was said in that way.

 

[Looney Bin]

Couple of pics from the tobh build. It's a decent amount of rayon, but it looks like more than it is. The tail end of the wick is fanned out agood bit. Wrapping over and between the unused post. Then back around between the used posts to fill in some of the space under the coil. Trying to keep a good amount of juice in the wick and around the coil. Low ohm parallel coils eat juice. These pics are after I vaped 1.5-2ml of juice and just refilled.

 

[BNEAT]

Thanks for the tips all but I believe that it is just a plain juice issue for me.

Here is what about 5mL looks like with a single coil dripper build at 6-6.5 watts. It vapes really well but the coils are starting to get crusted over just a slight bit so that the wraps are starting to look like they are on top of each other when in fact this was a really clean build.

Here is an attempt of the EVOD. You can see that it is much more black on the top and there is sufficient coil contact IMO.

This is a super tasty juice and I don't mind dripping it so that I can monitor the wick/coil. For ALL of my other builds a clearer juice is superb and can last a looooong time at higher power levels.

See, I told you it was a juice issue, LOL!

That's after just 5ml?? That's the most gunky juice I've ever seen, they must have spilled a five pound sack of suger in that batch!

 

[brookj1986]

So I just rebuilt my RM2 with a double helix coil (twisted 24 gauges with 28 gauge run twice thru the slots). Out of the 2.5' I tried to get done, I really only got one coils worth of properly created double helix.

I must say that I was shocked by the responsiveness.

I normally build only with 28 gauge for the rm2, though I did use mundy's magic coil last time which provided pretty good flavor with the rayon wicking, but didn't give me the vapor production I was looking for.

This build spit tons of vapor with decent flavor. It was about .27 (+/- .12 since that seems to be the variance on my ohm meter at sub ohms). I was actually surprised by the lack of flavor when compared to my standard 28 gauge dual coils around 0.3 ohm.

Obviously the photo doesn't show it wicked, but trust the vapor exploded off instantly! And rayon kept this saturated extraordinarily well.

sorry that it's slightly ot, but a few weeks back I mentioned my plan to do this coil with rayon and I'm impressed. Going to try it on a larger atomizer with dual versions of this to super sub ohm it... just need to find an atty with a 2.4 mm center post hole or 4 1.25 mm post holes, lol)

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[HolmanGT]

Oh! I didn't see that! I'll delete my post, don't want folks buying them..... Good catch and thanks for letting me know.

SlickWilly,

You did notice that the additives were in the small print at the very bottom of the add. Actually I was very surprised to see a chemical additive to what was being hyped as medical grade rayon. When I see "Medical Grade" I tend to assume they are claiming PURE and additive free.

I read one or two post that claimed one brand of "Med Grade" rayon had a bitter taste. It may well have been the stuff with Aloe in it. I don't think Aloe would be harmful but than I have never heard anyone claim they just loved the taste of it either.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Aloe Vera is of course known for its healing properties...

 

[awsum140]

Aloe vera may have healing properties when applied topically, but probably has different properties when heated enough to produce vapor.

 

[HolmanGT]

Aloe Vera is of course known for its healing properties...

Aloe vera may have healing properties when applied topically, but probably has different properties when heated enough to produce vapor.

Can't argue with either statement... the only cactus juice I ever inhaled was only for Native American Religious Ceremonies.

PS - don't know if what I did healed anything but I did feel a little out of it.

 

[slavkov]

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