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[SlickWilly]

jeremy,

Good video you posted this morning.That showed me a clearer idea how you lightly pull and work the rayon, something I've been struggling with all along. I wasn't doing the slight roll while I pulled, I would start at the center with my fingers and pull as I slide my finger to the ends. Doing it that way I ripping two out of every three wicks, the roiling helps, I'm not ripping them now and the rayon looks much better when I'm done working it. I re-wicked my Fogger, a dripper and a few clearo coils tonight and for the first time I got that distinct squeak and consistent on each wick, on 32ga. I've been over stuffing my coils, I have been using a needle to hold the coil in place, it was either that or I wouldn't get enough and have dry hits. The flavor is about the same, but my coils would junk up faster then what others have been reporting so I'm hoping I'll finally get the longevity like the rest of you. Maybe one day I'll get it right LoL. But even doing it half assed rayon still works better then cotton!

That's all, We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

 

[BLank Redux]

Anybody have a clue as to if some stray rayon fibers could skunk a bottle of juice? I made a fresh build in my kayfun the other night and it tasted awful, I adjusted the wattage up and down and nothing helped and ever since I tasted it the bottle of juice seems to smell funky too. Should I just try to rewick it with less rayon and try again or could some random rayon fibers have dissolved in the bottle of juice?

 

[jaxgator]

You guys rollin vets..... Dang

Well it could be a difference of 10 individual fibers in the coil.

*OR the tails were cut differently. Tails can make a big difference.

One sign you have the density in the sweet spot range is that you can run the wick till it starts to physically look dry. Like you'll be shocked.

While the sweet spot for world records can be a little hard to get sometimes, rayon is very forgiving and will still work pretty darn good when your a ways off. For instance I purposely wicked too loose and too tight and was still able to run for days before I decided to rewick. In these circumstances cotton would be toast right away.

Bneat- and you didn't take pics to prove your world record? Dang, we believe you though; this is absolutely astounding. Definatley one for us to brag about.

Rayon for the win!

That is probably the main reason I like rayon so much. It is so, so forgiving.

Granted, it's wicking capabilities are far and above cotton, but with the ease of use, I find it so much superior. If it wicked better but was harder to "get it right" I might not have stayed with it as long as I have.

Easy peasy. Luv me some Rayon!

 

[cindycated]

Anybody have a clue as to if some stray rayon fibers could skunk a bottle of juice? I made a fresh build in my kayfun the other night and it tasted awful, I adjusted the wattage up and down and nothing helped and ever since I tasted it the bottle of juice seems to smell funky too. Should I just try to rewick it with less rayon and try again or could some random rayon fibers have dissolved in the bottle of juice?

Are you squonking? I don't think rayon biodegrades that quickly, so I doubt it's the rayon. Could your tank have needed rinsing before you built? Maybe it's gunk residue.

haha I just ordered a KFL and a genny last night. I have a feeling that I'll be doing A LOT of backreading on this long, long thread. :\

 

[BLank Redux]

Are you squonking? I don't think rayon biodegrades that quickly, so I doubt it's the rayon. Could your tank have needed rinsing before you built? Maybe it's gunk residue.

haha I just ordered a KFL and a genny last night. I have a feeling that I'll be doing A LOT of backreading on this long, long thread. :\

Well I'm not sure what squonking is so I don't think I'm doing that. And my kayfun was pretty clean, I've been running the same kind of juice in it since I got it and it was a freshly built coil and fresh wick. I might try re-wicking later =\ Hahah yeah I read thru a lot of this thread when first trying rayon in my kayfun

 

[cindycated]

Well I'm not sure what squonking is so I don't think I'm doing that. And my kayfun was pretty clean, I've been running the same kind of juice in it since I got it and it was a freshly built coil and fresh wick. I might try re-wicking later =\ Hahah yeah I read thru a lot of this thread when first trying rayon in my kayfun

If you don't know, then you ain't! That's when you squeeze the bottle on a bottom-feeder. Couldn't figure out how the funk got in the bottle.

Still, you should check it again, or at least take a sniff. Rayon burns like paper - if the funk was anything like that, then you probably overwicked and/or didn't prime it first, causing it to get zapped as soon as you fired up - the ash could've infected the rest of your juice too. Wet your wick first.

 

[jaxgator]

Keep them wicks wet, always.

 

[alongo]

My rayon works great in my russian 91 but the same amount of rayon with my ehpro kayfun lite always gets a slight burnt taste after awhile, 3 times, when a t-shirt up? R is 2 ohms. Kafun is 1.7.

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[AndriaD]

Here's a question: is anyone else using WTA in their juice, using rayon? I've been using it for a bit over a week now, [EDIT: correction, about 2 wks now] and it seems the wicks don't go as long before tasting slightly burnt, and when I do open up my kfl+ and have a look, it's very black, though about 99% of the black washes off under running water. Sometimes there is a slight darkening under the coil, sometimes not. I usually go ahead and put a fresh wick anyway. But it seems to me that before I got sick, when I was just using regular non-WTA ejuice, the wicks lasted much longer before tasting funny.

Anyone else seeing anything like this?

Andria

 

[juggalofisher88]

Ok another question how would i go about wicking a vertical coil in a kanger aerotank

 

[cindycated]

Ok another question how would i go about wicking a vertical coil in a kanger aerotank

On the OUTSIDE of the coil (see pic on first post). Doesn't air come from underneath, through the pin, like the PT heads? Jeremy and BSD have vertical hollow-core threads going too, in addition to this one.

 

[cindycated]

My rayon works great in my russian 91 but the same amount of rayon with my ehpro kayfun lite always gets a slight burnt taste after awhile, 3 times, when a t-shirt up? R is 2 ohms. Kafun is 1.7.

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Are the juice channels the same size (width/depth) on both? I heard that one of those KF/Russians have smaller/shallower juice channels (they vary), so you can't really wick them all exactly the same. Some will choke, some will flood, so you have to play with the wicking to work with your particular deck. Some people grind them down so they're all the same. It's a hassle. That's why I'm only getting ONE.

 

[BLank Redux]

If you don't know, then you ain't! That's when you squeeze the bottle on a bottom-feeder. Couldn't figure out how the funk got in the bottle.

Still, you should check it again, or at least take a sniff. Rayon burns like paper - if the funk was anything like that, then you probably overwicked and/or didn't prime it first, causing it to get zapped as soon as you fired up - the ash could've infected the rest of your juice too. Wet your wick first.

Ah I gotcha, then no I'm sure not doing that Yeah I may have test fired it too early and or with not enough priming done to it, can't put my finger on how it tastes but vaguely reminds me of a cotteny taste you get with a fresh cotton wick. Thanks for the help, I'll see if I can get my HHV juice tasting right again!

 

[charly1954]

Found a source for buying by the oz.
2.00/oz, - $5 for 1oz. shipped. Better value if you get 2oz

http://halcyonyarn.com/fiber-content/tencel.html


Meikles is 8oz/10.00, $17.50 shipped.

And whats the differance between your rayon and this? This is allot cheaper and it says 100% rayon.

Graham CelluCotton Cotton Coil

Have a friend whos wife works at a beauty shop. Read somewhere they use this stuff in B-shops. If I get some should I boil it? From ur post on the 1st page I didn't read anywhere that you boiled the rayon before using. Also allot of this is sold on ebay. From what I read the only bad rayon is is poly is mixed in with it and to test burn it before use to see if it melts or burns(smell like paper).
I don't have big setups like you guys do. I'll just be rebuilding clearomizer coils like the Kanger evod.

 

[mikeylab]

well i love rayon, i have found all the benefits listed in this thread to be true, and it has definitely improved my overall satisfaction with vaping. This is how i wick my tobh 2.5. this wick is a few days old and i have kept it saturated. I notice that with time, even the fluffiest wick can be molded if it stays wet for a while. i always fill the coils so that they are tightly stuffed with rayon, and it has been working wonderfully for me! Thanks!

 

[PaulBHC]

Charlie that link is what you want. 44060 is rayon. It is what I bought and no I don't boil it.

I also use it in kanger coils as well as gennie atomizers.

 

[juggalofisher88]

On the OUTSIDE of the coil (see pic on first post). Doesn't air come from underneath, through the pin, like the PT heads? Jeremy and BSD have vertical hollow-core threads going too, in addition to this one.

Ok is using a cotton core nessaray id rather do just rayon. And do i need to wick it loose seems like the opposite of everything iv read about rayon wicking

 

[cindycated]

Ok is using a cotton core nessaray id rather do just rayon. And do i need to wick it loose seems like the opposite of everything iv read about rayon wicking

Both Jeremy and BSD have since switched to rayon, so you're good.
I think you just don't want to pack it in tight or have it all gnarly in there. Nice thing about that build is that it's really easy to add more - you're not threading it into anything. Don't go too loose. You don't want any holes/gaps. Your goal is to have the wick touch the coil and not have any leaks. If you pack it too dense, the juice will have a hard time getting into the wick. And make sure you don't block the airhole with the wicking.

 

[HolmanGT]

Here's a question: is anyone else using WTA in their juice, using rayon? I've been using it for a bit over a week now, [EDIT: correction, about 2 wks now] and it seems the wicks don't go as long before tasting slightly burnt, and when I do open up my kfl+ and have a look, it's very black, though about 99% of the black washes off under running water. Sometimes there is a slight darkening under the coil, sometimes not. I usually go ahead and put a fresh wick anyway. But it seems to me that before I got sick, when I was just using regular non-WTA ejuice, the wicks lasted much longer before tasting funny.

Anyone else seeing anything like this?

Andria

Andria,

I have never used WTAs but I have used NETs and the NETs dirty coils and wicks pretty fast. I am very confident that WTAs have even more particulates in the juice than NETs do ergo the wicks get dirty faster.

If you browse the WTA threads I am sure those folks will tell you they don't get near the mileage out of their cotton, silica or rayon for that matter.

By the way to make WTA they take the field tobacco hang in in the drying sheds just like they do with cigarette tobacco. Then they put the leaves in a "Ball Mill" and grind it into baby powder consistency prior to extracting and filtering all the chemicals they want to use.

With NETs they soak the leaves in PG for some time period until they think they have gotten all the flavor they can. Sort of like making tea. My opinion (no guarantee) is that NETs while a little more particulates than flavored e-juice WTAs have a lot more. And the fact that it rinses clean or near clean kind of indicates to me the wick is just working like a filter collecting all the larger sized particulates.

I know no real help but check with the WTA folks and I think they will tell you that what you are experiencing is fairly normal.

 

[HolmanGT]

Charlie that link is what you want. 44060 is rayon. It is what I bought and no I don't boil it.

I also use it in kanger coils as well as gennie atomizers.

What Paul said here also.