Sorry... posted something in relation to the pervy rayon comment and thought better of it... wasn't particularly dirty, but don't wanna offend anyone...
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Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!
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Now I'm offended that you're offended, and I started it with stroking rayon!
Just wicked my first coil with rayon. 9 wrap 28g ni200 registering .16Ω atm. Twisted the rayon and shoved as much through as I could without wrecking my coil...that's the correct method right? Forgive me, I can't read 955 pages today XD
EDIT - BTW, first time I've felt like I got a nicotine buzz off 12mg from a tank...is it just in my head or is this for real? Kinda awesome, glad I stopped by Sally's finally yesterday
Hey welcome!
I know what you mean I vaped 12mg for a year and didn't get buzzed till I ran rayon again and it slapped me in the face.
This is what Ive been missing - this sh#t is the bomb.
2 days later I started this thread.
You've done something right so far as the added nic hit is showing that.
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Redid my TOBH tonight. Dual 24 gauge 3/32" @ 0.24ohm. Wicked with rayon, little more fluffy than usual.
40w - Not bad.
45w - Decent
50w - Starting to get a little better.
55w - Pretty decent
60w - How the hell is the wick keeping up with this awesomeness?
Not going higher yet but I think this wick can handle it, granted it's only 3.9v right now but still....cotton probably would have burst into eternal flames trying to keep up the wicking with the coils. Maybe the fact I changed up the coil helped too, I'm not using contact coils, they're spaced out about 1mm apart per wrap. I LOVE EXPERIMENTING!
40w - Not bad.
45w - Decent
50w - Starting to get a little better.
55w - Pretty decent
60w - How the hell is the wick keeping up with this awesomeness?
Not going higher yet but I think this wick can handle it, granted it's only 3.9v right now but still....cotton probably would have burst into eternal flames trying to keep up the wicking with the coils. Maybe the fact I changed up the coil helped too, I'm not using contact coils, they're spaced out about 1mm apart per wrap. I LOVE EXPERIMENTING!
Here it is. I changed the wick and dry burned, but honestly it was still going OK and I could have waited until tomorrow morning. I went ahead and did it now though.
28ga
8 wraps
1.5 ohms
.097 coil ID (screw driver)
Vaping between 4.3 and 4.5 volts on Provari 2.5 (12.3 to 13.5 watts)
Kayfun Lite+ V2 (unmodified, airflow fully open and mouth hitting only)
Pretty tight in the coil, but not jammed hard. I had to use my finger nail to hold the coil in place a little. One concern I have, is that when I trim the tails, the wick near the coil is cut short, and I am afraid the tail is thin and doesn't saturate the wick all the way through. Sometimes the wick has a thin layer that looks like its peeling off the coil and the full thickness of the wick might not get the flow of juice to it. I had a burnt wick pretty bad one day, and that day the wick was as I am describing.
Wick trimmed at an angle in an effort to thin them out a little.
In this image, you can see in the bottom portion of the image, the wick appears to be sort of disconnected from the tails a little. This concerns me as I am afraid as a result of trimming, the tails don't contact the full thickness of the wick in the coil and may result in uneven saturation. That's my paranoid guess anyway. Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
Don't worry about that at all this is not cotton any conventional cotton wisdom is thrown out the window.
If anything the previous problem was the wick trying to spring back to ts natural straight position at which point it wasn't touching the deck or channels. This is where its important that you do make a relief cut .
In your last photo there should be wick left on its own going straight out with the rest going down. Do not worry.
See how I run my wick for the last year on a dripper and it wicks to the last drop.
See the right side, that is how I would do the kayfun but downwards instead of cut to the side.
Don't think of cotton this is different.
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Ok, so over the past month+ I have been giving Rayon a thorough shakedown. I was using natural Hemp fiber prior to switching to Rayon and I was using Japanese cotton before the Hemp fiber, anyway. Throughout all of my testing I've mostly just kept quiet, trying to see if something glaringly bad started happening or I started hating it. After over a month with Rayon, and with Hemp fiber before that I only have two words.
COTTON SUCKS.
That's basically all I wanted to say, I've converted all of my mods over to Rayon(actually I did it in the first three days...) and I also converted four other cotton users over to Rayon in that time frame. It's just better, by a lot. Don't get me wrong either I liked Hemp A LOT more than cotton because it really gave me a whole lot more flavor AND didn't dry burn nearly as bad as cotton, the downside to Hemp Fiber is that it's a PITA to work with. Rayon has all the benefits of Hemp(doesn't dry burn badly, can wick coils tighter with it, etc) but it's just as easy as cotton, if not easier to work with. Hoorayon.
COTTON SUCKS.
That's basically all I wanted to say, I've converted all of my mods over to Rayon(actually I did it in the first three days...) and I also converted four other cotton users over to Rayon in that time frame. It's just better, by a lot. Don't get me wrong either I liked Hemp A LOT more than cotton because it really gave me a whole lot more flavor AND didn't dry burn nearly as bad as cotton, the downside to Hemp Fiber is that it's a PITA to work with. Rayon has all the benefits of Hemp(doesn't dry burn badly, can wick coils tighter with it, etc) but it's just as easy as cotton, if not easier to work with. Hoorayon.
Thanks for the review froth.
Before I broke rayon onto the scene. I too was using degummed hemp.
Actually I had used rayon in early 2013 worked good but due to no knowledge out there on it, not understanding how to use it and, at the time, lack of safety knowledge, i was on my own... I then switched to hemp for 6 months and could never get the performance I had before - I didn't understand what I was missing. No matter what I did with hemp it was lacking compared to what I had experienced before. Then on a whim I tried the rayon again. And bam there it was, nic buzz solid hit and great performance. .. Proceeded to convince the world.
Before I broke rayon onto the scene. I too was using degummed hemp.
Actually I had used rayon in early 2013 worked good but due to no knowledge out there on it, not understanding how to use it and, at the time, lack of safety knowledge, i was on my own... I then switched to hemp for 6 months and could never get the performance I had before - I didn't understand what I was missing. No matter what I did with hemp it was lacking compared to what I had experienced before. Then on a whim I tried the rayon again. And bam there it was, nic buzz solid hit and great performance. .. Proceeded to convince the world.
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So, after playing with it for a while now, I can work with CC in a RDA or the new KFL+ I got (have to drill out still) But I can't stand trying to use it in a genny. I can't seem to get the wick density right in them consistently and I get one good wick for every 4-5 bad wicks I have. I know the squeak, I know about how tight it should be, I know what it should look like going into the tank, but I just can't do it.
I hate to break it to you but there's still an awful lot of people who aren't convinced for one reason or another. Heck, none of the guys at my local B&M (where I dropped off most of my box of 44060 and a decent baggie of Tidi balls) use it. Here on the forum, I still see comments like, "stuff is man made with extreme poisons that no one knows are still present or not".
Update on my wicking. This setup is going the long mile. It's been 25 ml only but I feel it is unbeatable. Not a sing restriction. Always drying up fully before having to squonk again. The liquid is finding it's way to the coil and never staying stuck anywhere else.
As usual double insertion. I updated the double insertion method with 2 additional moves. It doesn't need it but makes a better blend of the 2 wicks.
First after insertion, I hold all the tails with 2 hands and make an outward motion. Just a 1/8 of a turn (45 degrees). So right hand makes clockwise and left counter clockwise. You get what I mean. Then you pull with both tails of the right hand then with the left. You should hear the squeak whenever you move these bad boys.
And as you can see after that I split the tails to position them according to atomizer and I trim the ends.
The twisting motion should help in compressing the shoulders, and the back and forth should release some air from the part inside the coil.
As I said it is unnecessary if your double insertion is not causing problems I just do it to help with easier management of shoulders and densities outside the coil.
As usual double insertion. I updated the double insertion method with 2 additional moves. It doesn't need it but makes a better blend of the 2 wicks.
First after insertion, I hold all the tails with 2 hands and make an outward motion. Just a 1/8 of a turn (45 degrees). So right hand makes clockwise and left counter clockwise. You get what I mean. Then you pull with both tails of the right hand then with the left. You should hear the squeak whenever you move these bad boys.
And as you can see after that I split the tails to position them according to atomizer and I trim the ends.
The twisting motion should help in compressing the shoulders, and the back and forth should release some air from the part inside the coil.
As I said it is unnecessary if your double insertion is not causing problems I just do it to help with easier management of shoulders and densities outside the coil.
Once some of the more well known video reviewers start singing the praises of Rayon I'm sure you'll find a bunch of turncoats come over to the Rayon side.I hate to break it to you but there's still an awful lot of people who aren't convinced for one reason or another. Heck, none of the guys at my local B&M (where I dropped off most of my box of 44060 and a decent baggie of Tidi balls) use it. Here on the forum, I still see comments like, "stuff is man made with extreme poisons that no one knows are still present or not".
I actually converted most of the guys at one of my local shops... they were all about the cotton. Till I walked in with a baggie and showed them how to properly trim... 
Now when I stop by, they usually toss me small bottle of whatever new juice they're peddlin' at the time... want me to give it a taste test and tell 'em what I think about it.
Now when I stop by, they usually toss me small bottle of whatever new juice they're peddlin' at the time... want me to give it a taste test and tell 'em what I think about it.
Just got my 1/2lb of Rayon in the mail.... that is A LOT of wick to play with .....holly molly!
I hate to break it to you but there's still an awful lot of people who aren't convinced for one reason or another. Heck, none of the guys at my local B&M (where I dropped off most of my box of 44060 and a decent baggie of Tidi balls) use it. Here on the forum, I still see comments like, "stuff is man made with extreme poisons that no one knows are still present or not".
Didnt say convinced.. Lol
Proceeding to... Trying to.. No matter what there will always be non believers. But as I always say - their loss.
I know its pretty ridiculous some of the things I see out there on other sites too.. But there's always people with clear heads that try to expose the error in thier ways.
the US government defines rayon as " pure cellulose"
Many different companies rayon product is regularly tested by Oeko-tex the leading textile testing facility in the world to be free of ANY harmful chemicals
To add injury to insult then you have the vaping celebrities saying - I don't know who thatthat is I don't trust them.. Come on dudes of course you have never heard of the company but they are the world wide respected agency.
*Seems we need to do a little work here guys.
A google search of rayon wick brings up another site that starts off bad, but as you read others clear the air but the title is negative. The reason they place higher in google is because we don't say rayon wick enough.
If everyone that writes rayon also adds wick ( rayon wick) we should be back at the top of google in no time.
Rayon wick clean pure flavors.
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