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[JeremyR]

If your gunking it won't work... If you've made it over 60ml most likely you are not gunking the coil hardly at all... If its wicked tight or too loose it will start to gunk similar to cotton.

To simplify, if you run it dry have a burnt taste that doesn't go away. The coil and wick will look fine. This is when a drip and wipe to absorb the burnt juice will work.

The 180ml coil never developed a gunk layer. 100vg.. No gunk is the only way you make it to 100ml.

Wiping a dry hit off the coil is not intended to removing gunk, it will not fix a coil that is gunking. When density is spot on there should be no gunk.

 

[Dave_in_OK]

Vape mail delivered my new istick 50W, Aqua V2 clone and a kayfun V4 clone Got everything set-up with Rayon and testing now, first impression is I'm going to be very happy! Love the feel of the IStick and the hit I'm getting off the Aqua is the best I've had. Of course I had to run up the wattage just because I could but had to bail after 30W

 

[JeremyR]

Its a comfortable grip isn't it.

I started a istick 50w thread..
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ion/656162-eleaf-istick-50w-owners-group.html

 

[jaxgator]

Yeah, I'm kinda hoping the tinkering aspect will lure him in. He's been a tinkerer for as long as I can remember...

Yep, loving the Hobo... it really seems to shine with the low builds, doesn't it?

Hmmmm... I may have to look into that Vapor Flask squonker... Haven't looked at the Apollo yet, but I"m sure that if you really wanted to, a Hobo could be modded to allow for BF. It'd take a little doing, but it wouldn't be impossible...

Yeah, I'm sure every atty can be converted to be BF. I just don't have the proper tools and/or inclination. I figure I'll just go with an atty that comes that way from the factory and if I like squonking, perhaps get a Hobo converted down the road.

 

[cobalt327]

Very first NR-R-NR coil wire. The NR is 30 gauge Ni, the R is 32 gauge Kanthal. Photos are blurry but left is an overlapped joint, right is a .... joint. I haven't researched which is better but the joints are equally strong, mechanically speaking. At this point I'm leaning towards the .... joint.

I want to tweak the capacitance, the way the welder is now I could join wire far larger than anything useable for vaping. I mean this thing *POPS* if it charges more than just a few seconds. Would make a good stun gun, though!

 

[JimmyDB]

Very first NR-R-NR coil wire. The NR is 30 gauge Ni, the R is 32 gauge Kanthal. Photos are blurry but left is an overlapped joint, right is a .... joint. I haven't researched which is better but the joints are equally strong, mechanically speaking. At this point I'm leaning towards the .... joint.

I want to tweak the capacitance, the way the welder is now I could join wire far larger than anything useable for vaping. I mean this thing *POPS* if it charges more than just a few seconds. Would make a good stun gun, though!

How many volts are you charging up to?

 

[Kaezziel]

Yeah, I'm sure every atty can be converted to be BF. I just don't have the proper tools and/or inclination. I figure I'll just go with an atty that comes that way from the factory and if I like squonking, perhaps get a Hobo converted down the road.

Sounds like a solid plan, bro. I'd probably do the same thing, myself, honestly. But I'm pretty sure that if I liked squonking as much as I think I would, then a Hobo would most definitely be converted at some point along the road! Damn that is just one fine atty....

 

[tchavei]

Ok... Just built a magnetic stirrer plate and I'm in the middle of converting an old hard-drive to a 5200rpm grinder and now I'm seeing this welder thing... Can you guys just stop for a couple of hours so that I can catch up with you?

Would love to know the specs and parts list of that welder though

Regards
Tony

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[JimmyDB]

Ok... Just built a magnetic stirrer plate and I'm in the middle of converting an old hard-drive to a 5200rpm grinder and now I'm seeing this welder thing... Can you guys just stop for a couple of hours so that I can catch up with you?

Would love to know the specs and parts list of that welder though

Regards
Tony

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I'm starting a magnetic stirrer, happy to see someone else mention it

I think the saying is... "Lead or get out of the way"

 

[qorax]

Sophia, TP build with Rayon√

Further details here (#2085): http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...dna-40-nr-nickel-builds-209.html#post15366948

 

[Dave_in_OK]

Spent most of the night trying to figure out why my Aqua was leaking. Was using it in the dripper mode and it started leaking bad so I thought it must be wicked wrong. Replaced the wick taking extreme care as to how it was built; not too much Rayon not too little, tails thinned and trimmed. Still it leaked. So I tried it in the tank mode to see if that worked - nope. So I rebuilt everything again. A few minutes later, it starts leaking again. Now it's about 1 AM and another rebuild, about an hour later I think bingo got it. So off to bed I go not wanting to make a mess I lay it down on a paper towel just in case. Get up and first thing I see is a wet paper towel! Now I'm think sure I build the wife's Kayfun no problem but can't build an Aqua! So I tear it down again this time I truly inspect everything. All it was, was a cut o-ring just below the deck.

 

[Kaezziel]

Spent most of the night trying to figure out why my Aqua was leaking. Was using it in the dripper mode and it started leaking bad so I thought it must be wicked wrong. Replaced the wick taking extreme care as to how it was built; not too much Rayon not too little, tails thinned and trimmed. Still it leaked. So I tried it in the tank mode to see if that worked - nope. So I rebuilt everything again. A few minutes later, it starts leaking again. Now it's about 1 AM and another rebuild, about an hour later I think bingo got it. So off to bed I go not wanting to make a mess I lay it down on a paper towel just in case. Get up and first thing I see is a wet paper towel! Now I'm think sure I build the wife's Kayfun no problem but can't build an Aqua! So I tear it down again this time I truly inspect everything. All it was, was a cut o-ring just below the deck.

Yep... them o-rings'll get ya every time... I couldn't tell you how many times a bad o-ring has burned me. Not just with our gear, but crap with my job as well... that's one of the first things that I check now, and I'm sure you will too!

 

[tchavei]

Update: fasttech order stuck in Lisbon since last Friday which means... 138ml and counting... God I think I don't remember how to rebuild anymore lol.

Next update tomorrow at the same time

Regards
Tony

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[SoonerChris]

Little help. Would slow wicking of juice be caused by too much or too little wick?


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[mudram99]

Little help. Would slow wicking of juice be caused by too much or too little wick?


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Way to many variables for info provided, both too much or too little wick can do it, but viscosity of juice is usually more the underlying culprit.

 

[SoonerChris]

Way to many variables for info provided, both too much or too little wick can do it, but viscosity of juice is usually more the underlying culprit.

AVE PG Hype which is high VG. 2mm ID microcoil at 1.2ohm.

Anything else to help with determination?

Sorry, this rayon stuff is a little new to me and I'm still working to figure it out.

Issue is it's inconsistent. Sometime good, sometimes bad. All in the matter of a few minutes. Is there a break in period for rayon?


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[mudram99]

AVE PG Hype which is high VG. 2mm ID microcoil at 1.2ohm.

Anything else to help with determination?

Sorry, this rayon stuff is a little new to me and I'm still working to figure it out.


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It was new to all of us at one time. Higher juices I find I do have to get that perfect balance, for me and my high VG & sucrose juices it is full but not quite to the "squeaking" point and tails are very much dependent on the atty I am using at the time. Remember unlike cotton when rayon saturates it loses a little volume not much but a little vs cotton swelling.

 

[tchavei]

I never heard a report about rayon being stuffed so tight in a coil to choke it... I tried and failed.

If you could post a pic of your build, that would help diagnose the culprit.

Regards
Tony

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[cobalt327]

How many volts are you charging up to?

No idea. This was minutes after finishing it, just wanted to see if it would do what it was supposed to. I've got to slate some time to properly dial things in w/a meter for a repeatable joint. With the capacitance the way it is now, I'd expect to use around 85-100v. But I'm not staying where it's at so this will change.

Would love to know the specs and parts list of that welder though

My welder was based on a similar unit made by "Breaktru". I used the parts list from a Reddit thread, but if you search using "Spark-O-Matic Wire Arc Welding", you'll see better info than what was on the Reddit thread. A working welder could be made for just a couple dollars but I wanted a project box, banana plugs, etc. so that ran the cost up to about $12.00 for parts. Shipping was $8.00, if I were to build another one I'd use a different supplier w/better shipping.

 

[JeremyR]

Little help. Would slow wicking of juice be caused by too much or too little wick?

Hi Chris, if you just switched from cotton the common first problem is the wick being loose in the coil. Check to make sure the wick is still in good contact at the edges of the coil.

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Issue is it's inconsistent. Sometime good, sometimes bad. All in the matter of a few minutes. Is there a break in period for rayon?

If you mean slow wicking and not dry hits from the coil. Then too much tail will cause this.. Large long tails will pull juice away from the coil. You want the tails to be less than what's in and near the coil. Thin the tails if they bend and turn. I usually use a full tail out to the edge of the chamber. Then any more I need past that, I thin considerably. As much as 80 less sometimes.

There should be no break in; otherwise somethings not right.

What atomizer are you using?