Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

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JeremyR

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Oh... I just imagined that if they made the Cotton one in a smaller version, they may do the Rayon as well. Oh well.

We do really need that 10ft in rayon but it seems they yet don't produce it in that quantity but maybe soon ... 40 ft is the smallest and if Sally starts to stck it it will be around 4-5$ .. I just need to contact them I guess.
 

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Well, I went ahead and ordered the Tencil stuff that you linked a ways back.
I hope you didn't read my posts the wrong way. I wasn't trying to be negative... I just want to have as much info as possible before I try this. I wasn't trying to bash something that you like or criticize. I know it can get frustrating because it seems like some people get off on raining on others parade. That's not what I was trying to do.
 

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Welcome to Graham Beauty

44040 Regular Coil 1200 Ft. Dispenser Box
44043 Regular Coil 3 Lbs. Dispenser Box
44060 Regular Coil 500 Ft. Dispenser Box
44130 Regular Coil 40 Ft./Box 12 Boxes/Case

Product codes are on the far left. This is the only stuff from Graham Beauty that we know that is 100% Rayon. I personally have a box of 44043.

This thread has quickly evolved from;

Rayon fibres in melatonin bottle

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Tencell Top Fibres

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100% RAYON Cellucotton made by Graham Beauty most commonly available at Sally Beauty Supply.

As far as I know, the 100% RAYON CelluCotton from Graham Beauty is the last word.
 

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Well, I went ahead and ordered the Tencil stuff that you linked a ways back.
I hope you didn't read my posts the wrong way. I wasn't trying to be negative... I just want to have as much info as possible before I try this. I wasn't trying to bash something that you like or criticize. I know it can get frustrating because it seems like some people get off on raining on others parade. That's not what I was trying to do.

Ditto what she said for me as well. Nothing wrong with trying to learn as much as possible.

Rin, I have some Cellucotton Rayon coming and I'm sure I'll have more than I need to try it. I can send you some when it gets here. I called my closest Sally's to maybe buy some now to try it quicker but they too only sell the small, 100% cotton. It's a super small Sally's closest to my house but the bigger one about 30 mins away has it I guess.
 

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I've been going through a lot of juice lately. Almost finished my third 50 ml bottle of GVC and wanted to try something. I took a 50 ml bottle of GVC ("VG Heavy 6mg nic") that was 80% used and filled the bottle with pure VG juice - a very diluted mix. Juiced up my Heron and vaped. It was still full of flavor! And if I can taste it, anyone can because my taste buds are pretty shot after 50+ years of smoking cigs. Yeah, I'm so old I fart dust! This CC keeps impressing me.
 

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Ditto what she said for me as well. Nothing wrong with trying to learn as much as possible.

Rin, I have some Cellucotton Rayon coming and I'm sure I'll have more than I need to try it. I can send you some when it gets here. I called my closest Sally's to maybe buy some now to try it quicker but they too only sell the small, 100% cotton. It's a super small Sally's closest to my house but the bigger one about 30 mins away has it I guess.

Angi,

I hope Sally's does a faster job shipping to you than to me! Placed the order last Fri and it didn't ship until today! (albeit with several "we're sorry for the delay we have forwarded your order to ..." emails). And finding myself waiting for my daughter in a strip mall, with a Sally's staring me in the face I just couldn't resist!

Rin,

I'm hoping you found my comments helpful (although perhaps redundant). Didn't mean anything I said as an attack or anything like that, but since many others read this forum I felt it was important to put my responses up both for you and others reading this thread. PM me if you'd like a sample of cellucotton, as I noted above, I have more than I need by about a factor of 10 (unless vaping with rayon somehow turns me into a Time Lord! ;-)
 

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This thread is going TOO FAST. Hell faster that pdib's thread. Good job!! :D

Anyone found a source of cellucotton in Europe or that can ship to Greece?

I found 3 website that ship from US but shipping is above 30 usd for the 40 ft one! Dayum!

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Go to Sally's website and do a search.. Try a couple large city's near you.. I know when i searched from Frankfurt Germany I found a lot of Sally stores.. Call before you go, to confirm the store is still there. They list uk, Germany and Spain and Ireland.

However I'm sure every country has a beauty supply store for salons and hairdressers and they should have a comparable product. Just ask you hairdresser where she gets her stuff, or she may have some to let you try. You would have to confirm the product is pure rayon.
 

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Should have my 3 lbs. box tomorrow or Friday. Shipping is kind of ridiculous. It took less time for it to go from California to Columbus Ohio than from Ohio to Pittsburgh. And then FedEx delivered it to my local post office which doesn't make any sense. Regardless, I will be able to try this stuff no matter what by Friday. My friend got some from Sally's and I will be visiting him Friday. I picked up some 1 gallon ziplock bags to put this stuff in. I am going to give a bunch away.
 

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Well, I went ahead and ordered the Tencil stuff that you linked a ways back.
I hope you didn't read my posts the wrong way. I wasn't trying to be negative... I just want to have as much info as possible before I try this. I wasn't trying to bash something that you like or criticize. I know it can get frustrating because it seems like some people get off on raining on others parade. That's not what I was trying to do.

No rin didn't intend that for you... Your cool .. I remember you from back when I first joined this forum.
Realize a large number of the vaping community is going to be ascending on my location. Ive just been putting out rando land mine posts to the plasticizers, regularly. (People that unknowingly think its palstic, ect.)

I do not care for the tencel because it's harder to work with for me but doc uses it all the time with great success, but similar to ramie it's more difficult to work with.. Heck I was going to pm you that I would send you a sample of each.. Just got really busy at work.
 
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Rin,
I'm hoping you found my comments helpful (although perhaps redundant). Didn't mean anything I said as an attack or anything like that, but since many others read this forum I felt it was important to put my responses up both for you and others reading this thread. PM me if you'd like a sample of cellucotton, as I noted above, I have more than I need by about a factor of 10 (unless vaping with rayon somehow turns me into a Time Lord! ;-)
No, it's all good. I just want to be sure my statements are taken the way they were intended. I'd like to have patience to read through all 100+ pages but I cannot do it.
 

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For people that would like to try this, I am willing to send out samples, with a few reservations. I have much more than I need and am more than willing to share. However, the popularity of this thread scares me a little, so I need to put out a few caveats.

If you would like a sample, PM me with your address. Please don't PM me again for status unless I have responded or a long time has elapsed.

I will send out enough for a bunch of wicks. No charge.

If I get overwhelmed with too many requests I may not honor them all. I will let you know through a PM (and might rescind the offer eventually) either when I send it or if I won't.

If you do not live in the US I will still consider it as long as it's not totally insane or costly trying to send it. However, I recognize that anyone in the US can get it from Sally, whereas those outside the US seem to have a lot more trouble or expense so I will do my best.

Although I will try to get these out quickly, I am not an express service. If you REALLY need to try it now, I'm not your guy!

I really like this stuff, and want to promote its use. And I really like ECF and the opportunity to PIF.
 

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I do not care for the tencel because it's harder to work with for me but doc uses it all the time with great success, but similar to ramie it's more difficult to work with..

I just tried a bit last night, sent by an esteemed fellow ECFer (unnamed to protect his privacy). The CC is a tad more difficult to tear apart, and seems a bit "stickier" - both to itself and to the inside of the coil. But, on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being easiest, I'd say cotton is an 8 and CC is a 7.5. That's with a 9 being "someone else wicked it for me" and a 10 being "my wick achieved self-awareness and replaced itself".

My utterly unscientific thought is that the "stickiness" might end up being a good thing, if it is a property in the material that carries through down to the molecular level. It may imply that less of it will come off and enter the vapor stream and our lungs.

Pretty exciting stuff.
 

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The CC is a tad more difficult to tear apart, and seems a bit "stickier" - both to itself and to the inside of the coil. .

It is very difficult to pull apart a very short length of CC because the fibers are fairly long. Try pulling off a longer piece, and it's very different.

That's true with "stretching" it in a coil as well; if the piece you're using is too short it doesn't stretch at all, but if you use a longer length, it stretches very easily.
 
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Ive been rocking cellucotton for 3 day snow, damn... I did rewick once, but it was only after mixing so many flavors i wasnt sure if i was tasting the right tastes... this is a amazing wicking product. I did make an attempt at the aga t2 using rayon. got it to work, but too much fiddlefuking around to be something i would do again. Guess its time to buy a russian,kayfun,taifun,fogger, ect.
 
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hey gang! :)

so ive slowly but surely been converting all of my cotton-wicked atomizers to cellucotton...with great success!!
my first patient was the M6 that rests atop my Vmod 2.0. i have always been prone to scorching the (cotton) wick in this particular atty. something about the way the vmod feeds and giving me a false sense of a saturated wick combined with my feverish attempts at abducting the nicotine seemed to relentlessly leave me with a barely moist to straight-up Dry Hit.

enter cellucotton. dry hits? pshhhh! what is this, 2013? nope! no dry hits here, folks! just juicy pure dense vaporous draws. this cellucotton soaks up - and more importantly - wicks up the juice like a Beast. even the tiny straggling drops that would pool in the edges of the cup are being put to good use by way of the sallys.

my second venture was with my new kayfun mini. didnt even bother considering cotton for this tiny powerhouse. not after the superb performance in my initial foray. so while i dont know how this puppy performs with cotton, i Do know that its remarkable with cellucotton. i was able to cram a great deal of sallys in there, especially seeing how i did a navy-lifeguard nest-type build. i wanted as much wick as humanely possible in this one because while the M6-VMod setup works great, i feel i could still cram a bit more sallys in there.

so for the kfun mini, i wet the wick down with juice and compressed it by rolling it between my thumb and pointer (wearing gloves. im already getting plenty of nic transferred from the sallys, dont need any more through my skin). i really got that wick saturated and compressed as much as i felt was possible. i slid it through my 1/16" ID 28g microcoil by holding the coil in place with tweezers and slowly coaxing the wick through, careful not to disturb my coil. results: superb! :) flavor is lip smacking and the TH and VP are aces.

i really gotta hand it to you guys. you werent lying! my hat goes off.

JeremyR and BrianC, i hereby nominate you for the Sallys Beauty MVP (MVV?) of the Year.
 
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