RBA vs. Protank?

[mgalyan]

Hey guys,

I am no doubt moving on to RBAs soon.. I have now perfected low resistance micro coils on my Davide and want more.

Couple questions... Is the vape experience from a 1.2 ohm coil in a protank anything like a similar coil in an rba, or is it pretty much better in every way?

In other words, If I'm bored with 16 watts in a protank.. Will I need to go sub ohm in an rba to be impressed? (And thus ditch my vamo, and go mechanical).

Thanks.

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[*deleon517*]

I kind of jump back and forth between 3 set ups each day. my at home choice is usually a gg clone with rda (with a enlarged air hole) at .8ohm. its my favorite to not be able to see the computer screen when relaxing. My at work gear is usually a k100 with a aga-t (slightly enlarged air hole) at 1ohm. my out and about gear is a zmax v5 telescope with a dct at 1.5ohm, its less noticeable when im shopping and vaping. one thing to realize is that every set up will have differences in air flow, which changes a lot of things we look for with vaping. some prefer to have a airy vape/tight vape, more vapor, less vapor, more th, less th. I generally like a more airy draw with tons/some vapor and th doesnt matter to me.

 

[Solid]

The RBA (Genesis) has a much better flavor saturation due to the vertical wick that it climbs up thus burning in the coil you wrap. Mechanical does put up with the sub-ohms much better than a vari volt (unless DNA board) in my experience. I would nab up an affordable mech mod battery tube with 510 and throw your RBA on it. Dry pulse the coils THEN throw it on an oHm reader. Check the reader for jumps...if the ohms are jumping back and forth then tidy up the coils until the reader reads a steady flow of load...remember you want to keep the entire atty (RBA) under load when doing this AKA wrapped coils already wrapped around mesh, steel cable, silica etc.

I notice better flavor from my RBAs than I do my friends Protank (versions II,III). I think its due to the hotter coils burning the juice. You also get way more clouds from a rebuildable than you do a Protank by far. Be aware that also has a lot to do with your build.

Only draw back that is very annoying with RBAs that I have noticed over the span of vaping on Genesis styles is that when the juice gets about half way you must tilt the mod in the direction so that the wick is horizontal...reason for that is the juice (depending on mesh grade and VG,PG) has a hard time wicking up the vertical wick when it starts to get low. If you vape like I do then you'll see your self in public or by yourself tilting the mod as if it were a baby toy.

Hence the reason I moved onto drippers (RDAs).

I love my Geny RBAs for the single reason of going out for long hours ie; partys, on the road, traveling....because I don't have to keep dripping to juice on my build to get a vape.

RDAs are for my stay at home ventures, relaxing with the friends, long computer surfing, and at the office were my juice bottle and mod stand on my desk.

To each his own...cheers man.

 

[Thrasher]

i know I tried the guys PT at work and even running at 10 watts with a genesis on my provari it stomped the flavor i got from a protank, never tried a rebuilt one.

it will depend on you, one thing not mentioned much is many RBA's are "tuned" better for flavor and vapor. so depending on what you get and how you build it you may go meh or holy crap!

 

[Solid]

i know I tried the guys PT at work and even running at 10 watts with a genesis on my provari it stomped the flavor i got from a protank, never tried a rebuilt one.

it will depend on you, one thing not mentioned much is many RBA's are "tuned" better for flavor and vapor. so depending on what you get and how you build it you may go meh or holy crap!

Haha I can relate...took me a good solid month when I first was introduced to RBAs of constantly fiddling, rebuilding, and re-wicking until I got it down for serious clouds and serious flavor. Takes time but if you love vaping and take the time to know the advanced side to it, it will open new avenues of vaping and enhance your vaping experience.

 

[mgalyan]

I bet you can go through a lot of juice when you are sub ohm running at like 30 or 40 watts...

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[Solid]

Depends on the vapor really.

I know people who pull on the drip tip really hard and end up sucking a ton of juice at a time through their coils (no matter the wattage, even though higher wattage on sub-ohms does vape a lot harder).

I also know a few people running sub-ohms on nice builds and take tiny pulls through their mod...those are the ones not chasing vapor but flavor rather and they tend to conserve their juice more than the vapor chasers out there.

As for me I am right in the middle. Sometimes I like to pull hard on my device to achieve huge clouds and flavor, and other times its just small pulls just to get my quick NIC fix/flavor fix.

You'll notice with certain juices too that some burn differently than others. Depending on the juice you might pull the same but one might last longer than the other. Its all trial and error...but that's what makes vaping so awesome is that playing around with juice, mods, builds, volts/watts, never ends...for me at least

 

[RubyRoo]

I rebuild my Protanks and I also use drippers and Kayfuns. As far as flavor goes, the drippers are much better and more versatile providing more flavor and vapor than my rebuilt Protanks. There is more airflow, and this produces much more vapor. I'd definitely try an Igo-L or and Igo-W for sure. Easy to build and easy to learn on. Good luck!

 

[Solid]

The IGO-L is a very easy how-to product to get...cost around $6-10 bucks online and B&M shops sell for around $12-14 (just so they can make a nice mark up value for themselves too).

Cheap and it was the first RDA I ever built on. Produced nice big clouds of vapor after I drilled out the airhole to 3.5MM

 

[Portertown]

I now only use Protank2s and Kayfun Lites. And I have an Igo L dripper for testing my juices that I have steeping.
I build them all with 30ga wire micro coils .075 ID using around 9 wraps of wire giving me about 1.8 ohms. I wick with organic cotton and run all mods at around 8 to 11 watts.
I find the difference between and advantages of the Protanks and the Kayfun Lites to be the following:
The Kayfuns give better taste, more moist vape, warmer vape, more vaper, use more juice.
The Protanks have glass tanks so they can handle all juices, use less juice, will fit on my VTR.
I enjoy the Kayfun Lites the most.

 

[jffvera]

If you are looking to try an RBA buy an RSST (around $20) if you want to try an RDA get an Igo-L or Igo-W (less than $20), or buy both. You don't have to go sub ohm on them to get a good vaping experience. If you set them up at 1.4, 1.6, 2.0 they'll still work pretty darn well.

I would not rush out and buy a mech right away, unless money is a total non issue. Chances are after fooling with an RBA/RDA for a bit, you are going to want to get either a nice genesis style rba, a kayfun/russian, or some fancy rda. If that's the case you'll want to get a mech that matches and looks nice with whatever you choose. That's what I would do.

 

[tj99959]

There are to many types of RBA's these days for a definitive answer, but the short answer is that there would be no comparison. The difference in air flow would insure that, and that could be good or bad depending on the air flow when using the same wick/coil.

Besides all the different types of RBA's, there are also a bazillion different ways to wrap a coil and make a wick.

The only one I use regularly is an A7 Pegasus, but that is simply because I can make it perform exactly the same as the disposable atomizer that I've always loved. That "happy place" is a lot easier to find when you already know what you want before starting to mess with RBA's.

 

[Vaslovik]

Hey guys,

I am no doubt moving on to RBAs soon.. I have now perfected low resistance micro coils on my Davide and want more.

Couple questions... Is the vape experience from a 1.2 ohm coil in a protank anything like a similar coil in an RBA, or is it pretty much better in every way?

In other words, If I'm bored with 16 watts in a protank.. Will I need to go sub ohm in an RBA to be impressed? (And thus ditch my vamo, and go mechanical).

Having been there I'll give you my two cents. An RBA is far superior in every way to a Protank. Nothing vapes like a well set up RBA. NOTHING.

I've posted about my vaping experience many times here, and it progressed over an array of hardware that included a Protank, which I used on both a Vision 1300 mAh spinner, and a mech. It didn't take me long at all to decide I needed something better than a Protank, and I put an RBA on my mech in short order. I was finally happy with my vape. I was even happier when I replaced the AGA-T2 with an RSST which is my current all day vape. I use mine in a gennie setup, SS wick, 28 kanthal, .8 ohm.

My Protank has been sitting there having abandonment issues for months now.

 

[mgalyan]

Having been there I'll give you my two cents. An RBA is far superior in every way to a Protank. Nothing vapes like a well set up RBA. NOTHING.

I've posted about my vaping experience many times here, and it progressed over an array of hardware that included a Protank, which I used on both a Vision 1300 mAh spinner, and a mech. It didn't take me long at all to decide I needed something better than a Protank, and I put an RBA on my mech in short order. I was finally happy with my vape. I was even happier when I replaced the AGA-T2 with an RSST which is my current all day vape. I use mine in a gennie setup, SS wick, 28 kanthal, .8 ohm.

My Protank has been sitting there having abandonment issues for months now.

That's pretty much what I wanted to hear. May I ask why you prefer the RSST versus a T2? I've been looking at both of them and the RSST bugs me because the plastic tank.

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[Vaslovik]

That's pretty much what I wanted to hear. May I ask why you prefer the RSST versus a T2? I've been looking at both of them and the RSST bugs me because the plastic tank.

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Well the RSST has some very nice features that the AGA-T2 lacks. The tank is made so that you can't ground out your wick on the bottom, it's plastic, not metal as the T2's is, and it has an insulated wick hole, very nice and makes for more efficient heating of the coil from both ends, and of course there's the spring capture for the positive lead, which has it all over the tiny little thumb nuts of the T2 by a long shot. You can also adjust the positive post down for better contact with the pin in your mod.

I found the AGA-T2 to be a quite cantankerous device to set up, and not all that reliable. At times it would go really harsh on me and I'd have to rebuild it at quite inconvenient times, and it's thumb nuts would come loose also, and I'd get serious ohms creep. It would go from .8 ohm to .92, 1.3, etc...

Finally, I have to say that I get much better flavor from the RSST. I'm not sure why, but I do. The T2 just has a bit of a rank flavor to it for some reason. I've not been able to sort out why, but the better flavor of the RSST was something I noticed right off as soon as I had it set up, which took me about 2 minutes.

I get what you are saying about the plastic tank, that's the reason I went with the AGA-T2 to start with, I liked the clear Pyrex tank, but the trade-off wasn't worth it. Word on the street though is that they are coming out with an RSST that does have a Pyrex tank:

http://gotsmok.com/pyrex-rsst-tank-smok-24-99/

 

[qfivenine]

I have been much more happy with my new Kayfun Lite Plus than with my ProTank II. Learning to rebuild it was quite easy, too.

 

[bwhitt]

I run Pro tanks 2’s and Mini’s at work, but I have started using a Kayfun at home and love it a lot. It’s a very different vape compared to the pro tanks. Lots more flavor and vapor.

I use Z-max VV mods with my Kayfun with a 1.8ohm coil and it blows the Pro tanks away. I can’t see myself trying sub ohm mods any time soon.

 

[mgalyan]

I am leaning RSST or kayfun clone. It sounds like I couldn't go wrong with either one. Maybe I'll get both lol.

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[Lombaowski]

I am leaning RSST or kayfun clone. It sounds like I couldn't go wrong with either one. Maybe I'll get both lol.

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Yeah I'm kind of in the same spot here. Looks like the reviews around here are saying the Kayfun 3.1 clone is better than the Kayfun Lite Clone. This RSST intrigues me though, I'd like a side-by-side comparison. Maybe Consumer Reports has one, lol.

 

[Prolikethis]

The thing is I treat my Protanks as RBA's rebuilding coils and rewicking as I would like an original RBA. I like my pro tanks like I like my Russian 91%. But to answer your question what is better as far as flavor goes I would have to say my Russian but $60 better hmm idk... I say buy you a nice RBA and you be the judge. you got nothing to lose there all great atomizers if built correctly (;