RDA Round-Table Discussion and Lookout

Sed8op8 · Nov 13, 2016

cheeseofvapes said:
been using the boost shift-bf for a few days and i love it. its the most efficient single coil atty ive tried! with the super reduced chamber and direct AF, its especially good with throat hit. it doesnt need very much power either! 23W and im good! kanthal A1 single twisted 28g 4 wrap 2.5mm ID 0.55 ohms @ 23W!

it would be cool if the other side could mount coils. call it the Shift-BF 2nd Gear

edit: also want to add i've moved up to 6mg bc TH

Speaking of upping nic level since I have started using single coil RDAs and RTAs more often(also have been on a MTL kick ) I have gone up to 9mg (I diy about half my juice intake now and add nicotine to juice I buy. The reason being if I buy a 120ml of higher nic juice it oxidizes and spoils much faster then lower or no nic juice) for my smaller single coil rdas up to 12mg for my MTL RTAs and im still at 6mg for my cloudier attomizers I also have found myself vaping 50/50 VG/PG and 60/40 blends more often.

I miss the throat hit. At 3mg I was vaping about 30ml per day and not enjoying the Vape I was getting as much. Now I have about halved my juice intake and I am enjoying it much more

RiceRide · Nov 17, 2016

I'm currently looking for my first RDA after trying some RTAs such as GeekVape Griffin, Aromamizer and iJoy Limitless RDTA. But my question is, do RDAs perform differently from something like limitless RDTA which o think is quite similar in the deck to drip tip shape, or I shouldn't expect too much? Also I'm looking for something that I can run a single coil to save liquid and battery so if u have any recommendation it would be very helpful.
Thank you in advance!

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eLicky · Nov 17, 2016

This is my favourite RDA, Buddha V3 30mm.

When I originally purchased Buddha a few months ago it was really for the lol's due to its size, myself coming from 22mm, 24mm RDA's like Goon wanted to have a laugh with this ginormous RDA. Once it arrived not only was it fun, it had an incredible amount of airflow, even 1/2 open, the performance and potential stood out immdeiately.

After testing about 24 hours I began searching for a mod that could take 30mm RDA's without overhang. The mod I purchased was the Limitless Lux and its all I use all day everyday. When I say I use it everyday its rendered me posting handchecks in groups useless because I just have the same rig all the time. In some ways its a godsend because Its stopped me in my tracks needing to make other purchase. The airflow and vaper production left RTA's like my Griffin 25 redeuntant.

Even today I was gifted an Aromamizer Supreme but doesn't compare to Buddha, it sits there sad in the corner, fiddly restricted airflow thing....

I run Buddha on a pretty basic build:

24g Kanthal
10 wraps
Final ohms: about 0.45
40 Watts

I don't feel the need to crank it up and never taken it much higher.

Long live the Buddha 30mm RDA!

RickCain · Nov 19, 2016

Those who enjoy a restricted lung hit, this is worth a purchase. My opinion is this is the best RDA ever made by Boost Labs. Flavor is on point and right on your face.

Guess it's time to sell off some stuff to fund at least one more..

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ghosteye · Nov 19, 2016

Hey Rick,

This looks like it might be right up my alley. Can you describe the vape and flavor you are getting from this a little more, please. Also, how does it squonk?

RickCain said:
Those who enjoy a restricted lung hit, this is worth a purchase. My opinion is this is the best RDA ever made by Boost Labs. Flavor is on point and right on your face.

Guess it's time to sell off some stuff to fund at least one more..

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sofarsogood · Nov 19, 2016

RiceRide said:
I'm currently looking for my first RDA after trying some RTAs such as GeekVape Griffin, Aromamizer and iJoy Limitless RDTA. But my question is, do RDAs perform differently from something like limitless RDTA which o think is quite similar in the deck to drip tip shape, or I shouldn't expect too much? Also I'm looking for something that I can run a single coil to save liquid and battery so if u have any recommendation it would be very helpful.
Thank you in advance!

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Everybody has different goals and expectations so it's hard to generalize but my interest might be similar to yours. I want something for single coil, MTL, resistant to leaking and energy efficient. For all that I settled on an SV rda clone from FT ($7 each). I use stainless wire, single coil (horizontal build), at 1.3-1.4 ohm resistance. WIth stainless wire if the build kicks out of temp control for some reason I can carry on in watts mode. The SV is a bit fiddly to build on but once you get over that it's good at flavor. Leaking from the single side air supply can be controled with a tall silicone slip ring for pocket carry. (The drip tip is off a Nipple rda clone but usually I use a wide Derringer style drip tip because it's easier to drip through.. Everything in the photo came from fasttech.) My setup is in the signiture area below.

May be a good rda to get started is something like a Tugboat clone because it's easy to build on. I don't use them any more because the SV is better at flavor and comes with a top with just one air hole specifically for single coils and MTL. Adjustable air supplies or bottom air tend to be leaky. I'd love to discover another rda I liked as much as the SV but no luck so far.

I have a good job and low expenses. I can afford what ever vape stuff I want. This is what I want.

RickCain · Nov 19, 2016

ghosteye said:
Hey Rick,

This looks like it might be right up my alley. Can you describe the vape and flavor you are getting from this a little more, please. Also, how does it squonk?

Only one build into it but thus far is a very nice vape. I'm using the same flavor I've been using for over three years and it is spot on (a butterscotch/cheesecake).

On a regulated mod I can push a very warm dense vape or on a mech it mellows out for nice long draws (.8 build right now).

Squonking is a bit different than most other RDA's since the deck is very small. The juice holes are up off the juice well so it took a couple of squonks to figure out how much to press. I did drink a nice amount of ejuice on the first couple of squonks but has been perfect since I got the rhythm. This is because the chamber is so small IMHO. Going to try some spaced coils later today to see how well it does as well as dual vertical coils.

Been awhile since I've found a nice smooth restrictive lung draw - this can do that all the way down to a MTL.

Warning though..... the positive part of the 510 is too long IMHO which means it won't sit flush on some mods out there. On the octopus mod is sits flush but still need to try it on my other squonkers. It didn't sit flush on my Diocide #6 (it can be used as a dripper as well by screwing in the included bolt into the 510).

Sed8op8 · Nov 20, 2016

ghosteye said:
Hey Rick,

This looks like it might be right up my alley. Can you describe the vape and flavor you are getting from this a little more, please. Also, how does it squonk?

I am also selling off some stuff to purchase one ! A friend got one and sent it to me to try and I have been super impressed to say the least. First off its a funky little atty. It has a very unique deck that is very easy to build on and is perfect for a single horizontal coil or 2 vertical coils. The airflow is only 1 hole on one side and the top cap has a restrictor in it which accounts for the SUPERB flavor I get from this.
I really debated writing this but I decided to because we'll it's freaking true.....This has the best flavor I have gotten from an atomizer. I have vaped a few of the hyped up flavor atty usual suspects and this one takes the cake. However it's a very use dependent atty. Due to the deck design this RDA was built to be squonked. The well is just to damn small for anything else and even on a squonker I found myself pushing the bottle WAY more then any of the other bottom fed atomizers I have used.

Needless to say I don't think this little flavor monster is going to be for everybody but for vapors looking for a massively reduced chamber Bottom Feeder with amazing flavor and that's easy to build I think its freaking amazing

ghosteye · Nov 20, 2016

Sed8op8 said:
I am also selling off some stuff to purchase one ! A friend got one and sent it to me to try and I have been super impressed to say the least. First off its a funky little atty. It has a very unique deck that is very easy to build on and is perfect for a single horizontal coil or 2 vertical coils. The airflow is only 1 hole on one side and the top cap has a restrictor in it which accounts for the SUPERB flavor I get from this.
I really debated writing this but I decided to because we'll it's freaking true.....This has the best flavor I have gotten from an atomizer. I have vaped a few of the hyped up flavor atty usual suspects and this one takes the cake. However it's a very use dependent atty. Due to the deck design this RDA was built to be squonked. The well is just to damn small for anything else and even on a squonker I found myself pushing the bottle WAY more then any of the other bottom fed atomizers I have used.

Needless to say I don't think this little flavor monster is going to be for everybody but for vapors looking for a massively reduced chamber Bottom Feeder with amazing flavor and that's easy to build I think its freaking amazing

Thanks Rick and Sed8op8! That seals the deal. Both of your descriptions are exactly what I have been looking for. I love the atties I have so far, but I have to keep fiddling with the top cap to get the draw I am looking for. It's not a huge deal, but this sounds right up my alley. Thank you so much for your input. Now if I can just make it to the end of the month. I am way, WAY over my vape budget this month.

Mr.Mann · Nov 20, 2016

LouisLeBeau said:
Hey, NOBODY invited you!

Seriously, a separate thread TO talk about clones would be a great place. I certainly understand the criteria established by the OP, makes sense. And authentics are coming fast and furious enough to keep this thread interesting and vibrant.

But I can certainly understand a desire to compare the alternatives to the originals, and even talk about the various different manufacturers of the same similar devices. It would detract from THIS thread, but be a great topic of its own.

LOL.

Just popping in. I always miss the good stuff. I would've put my two cents in... oh wait. I guess I did that awhile ago.

Sometimes the conversation goes there, and I've used the term more than few times here. It's not about policing everyone's words, it's just about not derailing the thread into something that changes the tenor of the original topic.

I still stand by my OP.

Mr.Mann · Nov 20, 2016

Now, back to the regularly scheduled programming... is thing even on? Whatever, I feel like squeezing off another.

I am still diggin' on the Tokugawa and the O. The O is my favorite atty.

No special coils needed. No spitting. Great flavor (with regular coils). A great draw. I'm sayin'!

Yeah, the build-deck is just ahhhhight, but the vape tho.

Hank F. Spankman · Nov 20, 2016

Mr.Mann said:
Now, back to the regularly scheduled programming... is thing even on? Whatever, I feel like squeezing off another.

I am still diggin' on the Tokugawa and the O. The O is my favorite atty.

No special coils needed. No spitting. Great flavor (with regular coils). A great draw. I'm sayin'!

Yeah, the build-deck is just ahhhhight, but the vape tho.

I honestly think the design idea was well meant, but the execution is a big fail. Not to take away anything from the vape itself tho, it's damn great

Mr.Mann · Nov 20, 2016

Hank F. Spankman said:
I honestly think the design idea was well meant, but the execution is a big fail. Not to take away anything from the vape itself tho, it's damn great

Yeah, luckily (for me) the vape supersedes the deck design. Well, not even the deck so much as the actual clamp system (or whatever that mess is called).

I adore the airflow and think (as @kformeck postulated), there is something extra that happens to that airflow based on that downward-direction (maybe he can say what he was thinking... unless he already has and I missed it).

Using just a dual-coil build of something 26 gauge with a 2.5-3.0 ID and a 4/5 wrap, absolutely wonderful. I only build on it maybe once a month though. hahaha.

I have thought about getting another one, but that price is not cool (especially considering I think the build deck is lacking). Maybe I'll find one in the <$20 range. But I will keep any issues with that one to another thread.

kformeck · Nov 21, 2016

Mr.Mann said:
I adore the airflow and think (as @kformeck postulated), there is something extra that happens to that airflow based on the downward-directed of the air (maybe he can say what he was thinking... unless he already has and I missed it).

I'm not 100% sure but based on what I see in the airflow design and feel when I draw at different speeds, I'd say the downward airflow is creating a pressure that creates a resistance to the exit airflow. You may notice that when you draw harder, it becomes a bit more restricted. It's also why the vapor is cooler too, the airflow isn't exiting the chamber immediately like it does on a NarDA, it fights it's way through the downward pressure caused by the incoming air and since it takes more time for the vapor to exit after hitting the coil, the vapor is cooler. This also cools the coil(s) very well resulting in excellent flavor.

I've talked to quite a few people who haven't used one because they think the o-atty is NarDA rip off but IMO, the vape is completely different. If you vape them the same, you're probably missing out. The O-atty needs more power because it can cool a coil a little better due to more air flow and the pressure created as where the NarDA is better in lower wattage scenarios.

And while I'm at it, I haven't seen any mention of the Floud RDA in here. They're not too hard to get your hands on and the flavor is fantastic. It can do single or dual coils with one angle airflow slot. It has as 14mm reduced inner chamber and the airflow slot is cut at an angle so the airflow swirls around the chamber. The flavor is excellent and the draw is smooth and has an interesting feel similar to the o-atty.

Floud & Co. | Facebook

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Mr.Mann · Nov 21, 2016

kformeck said:
I'm not 100% sure but based on what I see in the airflow design and feel when I draw at different speeds, I'd say the downward airflow is creating a pressure that creates a resistance to the exit airflow. You may notice that when you draw harder, it becomes a bit more restricted. It's also why the vapor is cooler too, the airflow isn't exiting the chamber immediately like it does on a NarDA, it fights it's way through the downward pressure caused by the incoming air and since it takes more time for the vapor to exit after hitting the coil, the vapor is cooler. This also cools the coil(s) very well resulting in excellent flavor.

I've talked to quite a few people who haven't used one because they think the o-atty is NarDA rip off but IMO, the vape is completely different. If you vape them the same, you're probably missing out. The O-atty needs more power because it can cool a coil a little better due to more air flow and the pressure created as where the NarDA is better in lower wattage scenarios.

And while I'm at it, I haven't seen any mention of the Floud RDA in here. They're not too hard to get your hands on and the flavor is fantastic. It can do single or dual coils with one angle airflow slot. It has as 14mm reduced inner chamber and the airflow slot is cut at an angle so the airflow swirls around the chamber. The flavor is excellent and the draw is smooth and has an interesting feel similar to the o-atty.

Floud & Co. | Facebook

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Yeah, that is what I was saying.

It is weird, one thing I found with the O is that my wicks sometimes get quite dry before I taste a dry(ish) hit. And I don't use TC. It's like ALL the liquid that goes into the well gets vaped. From what I can tell, the ideas you have may explain that. No other RDA I have vapes quite like it.

r055co · Nov 21, 2016

kformeck said:
I'm not 100% sure but based on what I see in the airflow design and feel when I draw at different speeds, I'd say the downward airflow is creating a pressure that creates a resistance to the exit airflow. You may notice that when you draw harder, it becomes a bit more restricted. It's also why the vapor is cooler too, the airflow isn't exiting the chamber immediately like it does on a NarDA, it fights it's way through the downward pressure caused by the incoming air and since it takes more time for the vapor to exit after hitting the coil, the vapor is cooler. This also cools the coil(s) very well resulting in excellent flavor.

I've talked to quite a few people who haven't used one because they think the o-atty is NarDA rip off but IMO, the vape is completely different. If you vape them the same, you're probably missing out. The O-atty needs more power because it can cool a coil a little better due to more air flow and the pressure created as where the NarDA is better in lower wattage scenarios.

And while I'm at it, I haven't seen any mention of the Floud RDA in here. They're not too hard to get your hands on and the flavor is fantastic. It can do single or dual coils with one angle airflow slot. It has as 14mm reduced inner chamber and the airflow slot is cut at an angle so the airflow swirls around the chamber. The flavor is excellent and the draw is smooth and has an interesting feel similar to the o-atty.

Floud & Co. | Facebook

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Mr.Mann said:
Yeah, that is what I was saying. [emoji14]

It is weird, one thing I found with the O is that my wicks sometimes get quite dry before I taste a dry(ish) hit. And I don't use TC. It's like ALL the liquid that goes into the well gets vaped. From what I can tell, the ideas you have may explain that. No other RDA I have vapes quite like it.

For $150-$200 for a 304 SS RDA, that is just a different spin on the Narda? Totally ludicrous.

I own a number of $100+ RDA'S and tanks so I'm all for paying for quality, but they are gouging to the extreme.

I'll buy the Clone just for the principal alone.

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Mr.Mann · Nov 21, 2016

r055co said:
For $150-$200 for a 304 SS RDA, that is just a different spin on the Narda? Totally ludicrous.

I own a number of $100+ RDA'S and tanks so I'm all for paying for quality, but they are gouging to the extreme.

I'll buy the Clone just for the principal alone.

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Agree: Absurd price :thumb:

Disagree: "Different spin on the NarDA" :nah:

RickCain · Nov 21, 2016

r055co said:
For $150-$200 for a 304 SS RDA, that is just a different spin on the Narda? Totally ludicrous.

I own a number of $100+ RDA'S and tanks so I'm all for paying for quality, but they are gouging to the extreme.

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I don't think the O-Atty is anything like a Narda, each has it kind of build that make is work well (they both do for sure). WAY less spit back with the O-Atty to boot.

Price was Facebook hype driven IMHO. If there were not rapid people hyping it so much it could have ended up being a $70-$80 RDA and made it a purchase many would have been good with.

jhhollier · Nov 21, 2016

The prices of these attys are just a turn off for me considering the Hadaly is $70.50 and ridiculously easy to get your hands on. I don't see me paying $150 for another atty ever again.

I wouldn't say the O-Atty is a total ripoff of the NarDA but come on guys the two are quite similar.

Mr.Mann · Nov 21, 2016

RickCain said:
I don't think the O-Atty is anything like a Narda, each has it kind of build that make is work well (they both do for sure). WAY less spit back with the O-Atty to boot.

Price was Facebook hype driven IMHO. If there were not rapid people hyping it so much it could have ended up being a $70-$80 RDA and made it a purchase many would have been good with.

I had to (kinda) leave FB for this kinda vape stuff. Too much, just too much of the extremes. All love or all hate.

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