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NightShadow

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You might want to tell us a few details so people can assist you better:

What rda are you using, single coil, dual coil, etc
What wire type and gauge do you use/have access to?
What type of e juice do you prefer (high VG is usually the way)
Do you care if the vapor is hot or not?
What type of mod will you be using with the RDA?

Good Luck and happy vaping!
 

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All of the above is good advice, but we really need more info to get specific. In general, as has been said, higher watts, bigger wire, higher VG content and more airflow all contribute to cloud. Let us know what you have and we'll try to help. Welcome to the board.
 
Okay well I have a 200 watts limited editon snow wolf. Im currently useing a dual coil set up. Im new to vaping still so im not sure what wireing they used at the shop. As for the E-juice Im still testing different brands out trying to see what I enjoy the most. So far I like V God, Vaping Havak, and SOS. I like using anywhere from a 0mg to .3mg for nicotine. Ive been vaping off my Crown tank for now until I figure out more about RDA's. I know its not all about clouds but I heard its something alot of people do when they're new to vaping. Im sure ill grow out of that phase though. Im sorry if all this information wasnt helpful.
 

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I don't enjoy vaping at high watts.

For me (RDA), "Vanilla" dual coils, 30-40 watts, VG Juice, Magma.... sorted.

For others, they'll be using quads or claptons or Ni or, well who knows...

I did vape at 100 watts at Vapefest. It was OK.... one of @VapingBad crazy set-ups. It's fun stuff.
 

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Personally, I keep things simple. (Keep It Simple, Stupid)

Simple dual coils (open or closed, doesn't really matter).

I've tried so-called enthusiasts' coil who build all the exotic coils, and tried their vape. IMHO, they are no better than my simple coils.

If you enjoy tinkering around with fancy builds, go for it. I don't, I just want to vape.
 

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It's subjective here - claptons for me = better flavor.

I can think of a 100 different things to make clouds bigger but all of them come out with the same answers - build (not what you build, but how you build), airflow, power (higher doesn't always = better), and VG / PG ratio.

If I build a Clapton / Clapton style coil and I wick it improperly - clouds are not going to be there.

If I build AND wick properly, but airflow is not there, clouds will not be there.

If I build, wick, and ensure airflow is there, but VG / PG ratio is OFF - clouds will not be there.

IF I BUILD, WICK, ENSURE AIRFLOW, AND VG / PG RATIO is GOOD, BUT my build is underpowered - clouds will not be there.

IF I DO EVERYTHING RIGHT AND I have a good posture with some good lungs because I quit smoking over a year ago - CLOWDZ FOR DAIYZ BRO!
 

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IF I DO EVERYTHING RIGHT AND I have a good posture with some good lungs because I quit smoking over a year ago - CLOWDZ FOR DAIYZ BRO!
This!! :thumb:


Coils, Wicks, and Vapor Production:
Vapor production comes from a combination of net coil surface area, wicking and juice type, air flow... and the wattage necessary to heat that net coil surface area. If you're lacking in any of those areas, you'll come up short.

Just a few basic points, for your consideration... some IMO, some incontrovertible fact.

  • The gauge of wire and overall length of that wire is what determines resistance. Coil count is irrelevant.

  • Thicker gauge wire, for a given net resistance, where the finished coil(s) physically fits in the atomizer, provides the greatest surface area.

  • Thicker wire, for a given net resistance, runs cooler than thinner wire, for a fixed wattage value.

  • For a given net resistance, thicker wire requires more wattage to obtain the same heat flux (coil radiant heat) as thinner wire. Thinner wire, although it reduces surface area, can be used to raise heat flux where adjustable wattage (mech mod) is not an option.

  • Higher wattage, for a given net resistance, produces more heat, and requires both better air flow and optimized wicking.

  • "In-coil" wicking that is "loose" vs. "tight" is almost always a better choice, as overly tight fits can choke off the capillary action of the wicking medium.

  • Plain old cotton balls can be "unrolled" perpendicular to the grain, to produce a flat strip of cotton.

  • Always roll cotton wick in parallel with the cotton "grain".

  • In an RDA, high VG juice will produce thicker "cloud" density.
(Thanks to State o" Flux)
 

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Whats the best type of build for more clouds?

I would suggest a twisted or Clapton coils because they have more books and crannies to make contact with the juice.

If you want clouds go to high VG juices.

I blow a decent cloud and vspers sometimes ask what voltage I am using. I press the Fire button so they can see the wattage and resistance and their eyes almost fall out of their sockets when they see I have .88 resistance and firing it at 12.5 watts (3.31 volts).

I DIY my own juice 70%VG 30%PG
 

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I would suggest a twisted or Clapton coils because they have more books and crannies to make contact with the juice.

If you want clouds go to high VG juices.

I blow a decent cloud and vspers sometimes ask what voltage I am using. I press the Fire button so they can see the wattage and resistance and their eyes almost fall out of their sockets when they see I have .88 resistance and firing it at 12.5 watts (3.31 volts).

I DIY my own juice 70%VG 30%PG
This! I sit in a cubicle with two long time vapers who just laugh when I sneak in a vape and blow a cloud about a 1/3 of the way across our cubicle. All that with a Sig 75, Non RTA/RBA Tank, and 65/35 to 70/30 VG/PG ratio. I run that at 20 to 24 Watts and .5 Ohms.

I am probably going to take my DIY juice to 60/40 on my next batch as I am chasing a sweeter flavour.
 
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I would suggest a twisted or Clapton coils because they have more books and crannies to make contact with the juice.

If you want clouds go to high VG juices.

I blow a decent cloud and vspers sometimes ask what voltage I am using. I press the Fire button so they can see the wattage and resistance and their eyes almost fall out of their sockets when they see I have .88 resistance and firing it at 12.5 watts (3.31 volts).

I DIY my own juice 70%VG 30%PG

Hello Two_Bears if you don't mind me asking what type of wire and gauge are you using, what diameter of coil (or jig), and about how many wraps do you use with that Clapton coil? I could figure out the wraps with steam machine I guess lol. Also I imagine that gives off a fairly cool vape or am I wrong? New to building but have watched a ton of videos.

I had been using an aspire k1 at 1.6 ohms on an ego, surprisingly it puts out decent vapor for a little thing, even more when on a "real" mod. I am looking for cooler builds for my crown tank with good vapor and it sounds like that is where you are at so I would appreciate the info. I am still experimenting with the crown to see what I will like best, TC, power mode, rba etc.
 

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I don't enjoy vaping at high watts.

For me (RDA), "Vanilla" dual coils, 30-40 watts, VG Juice, Magma.... sorted.

For others, they'll be using quads or claptons or Ni or, well who knows...

I did vape at 100 watts at Vapefest. It was OK.... one of @VapingBad crazy set-ups. It's fun stuff.

Agree. The highest I have ever gone was 40 watts trying to get rid of the cardboard and get some flavor out of the Billow V2 Nano.

For flavor the Goblin 15-17.5 watts, and the Silverplay Nano 12.5 watts, the Orchid V4 12.5 watts and Kayfun Nano 12.5 watts all four literally blows the doors off the Billow V2.
 
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I don't do Clspton coils. My left hand is messed up from Dupodrens contracture and building Clapton coils are beyond my limitations.

I have made standard coils with 26 and 28 gauge Kanthal.

Have made twistrd coils with 28 gauge Kanthal

And parallel coils with 28 gauge Kanthal to lower resistance

I always build 2 mm and 2.5 mm coils and try to get a resistance between .8-1 ohm.
 

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I really like my Plume veil with a dual coil..
At 30 watts with a .5 dual setup in that RDA i can blast out some really nice clouds without even trying..Even with a single coil it's cake walk.. There is so much air options with that RDA.
Plus the taste is pretty damn good too with many of my juices..

I haven't bought a box mod that went over 60 watts yet..I just don't need much more heat than that..
Like someone said earlier..I just keep it simple..
 

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I really like my Plume veil with a dual coil..
At 30 watts with a .5 dual setup in that RDA i can blast out some really nice clouds without even trying..Even with a single coil it's cake walk.. There is so much air options with that RDA.
Plus the taste is pretty damn good too with many of my juices..

I haven't bought a box mod that went over 60 watts yet..I just don't need much more heat than that..
Like someone said earlier..I just keep it simple..

I have a istick60tc. The highest I have EVER gone was 40 watts when testing the Billow V2. Before that was 32 watts testing the GMini.

Most of my vaping is done at 17.5 watts and below.

I'm NOT a cloud chaser. I want a satisfying flavorful vspe.

I was at a meeting with Mike (don't know his last name) we were bothb blowing clouds. As we wrapped up we compared wattages. He had his Coolfire4 pegged at 40 watts and I was tootling along at 12.5.

Going big wattage helps clouds but there are other factors

1. Knowing how to build coils.
2. Resistance
3. High VG juices. This is the most important factor
 
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