Real coffee to E-Juice extraction... i'm SURE it's been done. Can anyone suggest how...?

[Danoman]

I have some raw beans from Dunkin' Donuts and Starbucks and a grinder. How do we convert it to an e-liquid...? Should it only be de-caffeinated coffee beans, or would it matter...? I'm wondering if the chemicals used in the decaffeinating process would be worse... opinions...?

Once I can get the process, getting the strength of it would be the next step... I figure, better to ask the pros than be sorry later.

Thanks y'all...
Danoman

 

[Jonathan Tittle]

You can use a Crock-Pot to "extract" coffee into PG and/or VG over time, which varies depending on the grind and how strong you want the final flavor to be. I didn't get much of a chance to really work it as well as I'd of liked, but on the initial vape after 2.5 hours, it did taste as a cup of coffee would, but it wasn't too concentrated.

At the time I was more so interested in testing the concept over getting the perfect flavor. I didn't want to invest an entire day only to find that at the end of the day, it was for nothing .

To do this, you'd fill a crock pot with 3-6 inches of water, turn it on low and place a glass or porcelain coffee mug inside it. The coffee cup will act as your steeping chamber. To this cup you'll add the desired amount of coffee grounds and enough PG and/or VG to saturate them to the point none of them are dry. Imagine a slushie. You know that slushie look? That's what your coffee grounds should look like when they are fully saturated.

Once you have everything in place, make sure you have enough water in the Crock-Pot to rise up to the level of the Coffee & PG/VG you have sitting in your cup. This ensures proper heat distribution with an even layer. You'll want to keep an eye on the water levels and make sure you top if off (using hot water, not cold).


As far as how long this takes, I've seen some do 2-3 and call it a day, others 6-12 hours on and off, others have pushed it for a few days. You'll have to test small batches and see what you like the best.

 

[we2rcool]

Here's a whole thread about one of the most popular ways to extract coffee for vaping: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/239733-coffee-flavor.html Some people seems to have fantastic success right off the bat; others (like me) seem to struggle with it.

Someone said 'somewhere' that 'timing is everything' with the method in the thread above (which involves a microwave) - and since I don't have/use one, that's likely part of my problem. (I could never get it strong enough).

Being an herbalist that makes hundreds of different tinctures, there's no doubt in my mind that's it's do-able (likely in many different ways). I just haven't prioritized it.

'Hope it works for you! Be sure and let us know

 

[Danoman]

Thank you both... i'm going to try this. (maybe add some vanilla to it as i'm doing it...?)

Something else I was wondering... caffeinated coffee or de-caffeinated coffee. Since, chemicals are used to do the 'de-caffinating process'... which would be better to inhale...? I would think regular, off hand. That, I dunno...

 

[Jonathan Tittle]

Thank you both... i'm going to try this. (maybe add some vanilla to it as i'm doing it...?)

Something else I was wondering... caffeinated coffee or de-caffeinated coffee. Since, chemicals are used to do the 'de-caffinating process'... which would be better to inhale...? I would think regular, off hand. That, I dunno...

Not all coffee roasters / companies use chemicals. There is a more natural process in which water and carbohydrates are used. The carbs catch the caffeine in transit and the water works as the "solvent", but you'd need to read up on the company who's coffee you're using to learn more about how they decaffeinate their coffee if you use decaff.

That said, a few things to keep in mind. Flavored coffees may contain chemicals you may not want to inhale, so stick with basics and add extracts (i.e. Vanilla - which sounds good!). I'd stay clear of Folders/JFG and use a higher quality bean. If you have an EarthFare or Fresh Market near by, go the organic route so you know the coffee is well taken care of and isn't loaded down with chemicals from the start.

It's also advisable to use fresh ground over pre-ground. Fresh Ground locks in the flavor - ground coffee can lose it's potency in as little as 4-7 days. Once you crack the seal on the bag or grind, time is a wasting .


This is simply based on working as a barista for a year in a local coffee shop that charged as much if not more than Starbucks for coffee due to the clientele they attracted (all business).

 

[we2rcool]

Not all coffee roasters / companies use chemicals. There is a more natural process in which water and carbohydrates are used. The carbs catch the caffeine in transit and the water works as the "solvent", but you'd need to read up on the company who's coffee you're using to learn more about how they decaffeinate their coffee if you use decaff.

That said, a few things to keep in mind. Flavored coffees may contain chemicals you may not want to inhale, so stick with basics and add extracts (i.e. Vanilla - which sounds good!). I'd stay clear of Folders/JFG and use a higher quality bean. If you have an EarthFare or Fresh Market near by, go the organic route so you know the coffee is well taken care of and isn't loaded down with chemicals from the start.

It's also advisable to use fresh ground over pre-ground. Fresh Ground locks in the flavor - ground coffee can lose it's potency in as little as 4-7 days. Once you crack the seal on the bag or grind, time is a wasting .


This is simply based on working as a barista for a year in a local coffee shop that charged as much if not more than Starbucks for coffee due to the clientele they attracted (all business).

+1, Like, Agree...excellent information!

 

[LucentShadow]

Here are a few links you can investigate:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/239733-coffee-flavor.html#post4603820 (already mentioned)

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...57599-slow-cooker-extraction-tobacco-tea.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...raction-very-weak-troubleshooting-please.html

And another thread focusing just on tobacco, but with some good insights from Kurt, a helpful chemist who is a member here.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/liquid-extraction-tobacco/99774-vg-pipe-tobacco-essense.html

I'd also suggest checking out Post #228 and a few pages beyond in the previous link for some info on a way to clean up the extract. I've tried extracts on several things using this method, and they make for too 'dirty' of a vape for me. I've currently got some 2 micron filter paper coming from Amazon, and will be testing them on a similar extraction. I'll be trying them using positive pressure instead of negative (such as vaccum filtration,) by putting them in a large syringe on top of a pipe screen, for support. Further filtration could be done using syringe filters, if desired (down to 0.2 microns or so.)

I'm not sure if my syringe method work, yet, but I have hope that this will let me make extracts that will not cause me problems.

 

[Danoman]

Thanks for all the info y'all...

I also have some Starbucks hold beans here too but, after looking at them, I've noticed that they appeared to be sprayed or coated with something that makes them look black and have a sorta' burned scent to them. The ones I've grounded up are from Dunkin' Donuts, Medium. I've done two batches of it... first batch is a regular pots worth that's really finely ground up and another one that they are kinda' course ground and have them both sitting in separate glass jars over night with a ratio of each, 50/50, VG/PG so the final consistency will be the same percentage as my Nicotine.

I've considered adding a couple ml of Vanilla and Caramel while putting in the micro for a couple minutes in a bowl of water. I've even considered (for strength) adding some instant coffee to it and see how that goes. Excuse me if I may, i'm just waking up and haven't had my 'actual' coffee yet... Lol