Rebuilding a waste of time?

[TrolleyVW]

So I used to work at a little B&M in WNY. Used to meaning I quit there yesterday because of a few reasons. Actually a bunch of reasons.

Unprofessional, grandiose, belittling owner to keep it brief.

Now the one major issue was her outlook on Rebuildables and Mechanical devices.

She thinks that building is a waste of time, immature, just to show off, pointless, and strictly a male thing. She actually has gone as far as telling customers some of these things when they ask about rba/rda supplies.

I myself take offense because of many obvious reasons, but mainly due to the fact that I love building, I own many mechs/rda devices, my own girlfriend builds, it's my hobby, and I enjoy the added vapor, flavor, and throat hit.

I understand that many start off with a basic ego kit and maybe upgrade to a VV/VW device and not go any further, which I believed I would do for a long time, but does that warrant such a negative attitude toward advancing?

There red was no reasoning and she thinks she is always right and knows what's best for everything and everyone. I won't get any further into it.

I'm just curious though, does anyone else think this way, whether or not you build?

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

I think rebuilding is most definitely not for everybody, but it's not stupid (nor is it 'male', judging by the many women who do it in this forum).

That she goes off on it to the public just undercuts her own business. Her loss (of both business and you).

 

[AegisPrime]

Tsk.

There's many reasons to rebuild, vape-quality being the most obvious - given the lack of QC on mass-produced Kanger etc. heads it's unsurprising that the vape experience with them can be underwhelming for many users. 5 minutes of Kanthal wrapping and some boiled cotton and you're in an entirely different league - and if you're looking for the best vapes out there then they're all rebuildables (Cartos/Tanks aside )

Cost is a factor too - I started rebuilding my Kanger heads (and rewicking my eGo-C attys) to cut my costs - I spend pennies on my gear now and it lasts me months.

 

[Hypatia]

That really is a nasty attitude to have toward customers/potential customers. No, of course rebuilding isn't for everyone. Neither is VV, VW, mechs, cigalikes, etc. That's why all these different products are available. We're all different and have different desires and needs in our vaping journey. Yes, women can and do love rebuilding. And no, it's not just to show off and be "macho." I'm a picky, control-freak who needs the delivery system that has the side-effect of dense vapor, lol.

 

[Thunderball]

Well, I guess if she makes her customers think rebuilding is a waste of time (etc)..she can keep reselling coils and the latest and greatest kanger/Kanger/Kanger.....or Iclear.....etc.

If her customers find out that a kayfun type rebuildable or rebuildable dripper blows those other toppers out of the water......she may not get so much profitable repeat buisness.

My take on it anyway......She is still being stupid.

 

[Ahoy]

The store owner has a lot to learn about running a store if she has that attitude. Owning is a store is for a few things but one of them is making profit and supplying an in demand product to a wide array of consumers and if she keeps that attitude she will find that soon she will lose customers because ego's and Pt's are great products(they really are) but a decent amount of people start to step deeper into vaping as time goes on and they want improvements and are going to start chasing their 'ideal' vape more and more.

Rebuilding allows you to customize your vape and save money(in some cases). Not a lot of people may thoroughly enjoy rebuilding as much as others but to each their own, as long as you aren't smoking then that is what matters.

Saying it's a "male thing" "immature" and "just to show off" is very close minded. It's her business in the end and if she wants to act like that then let her and maybe she will learn in time.

 

[patkin]

Insecure, defensive, narrow-minded and rude are a few thoughts that came to me reading about your x-boss. I would just be happy she is, in fact, an "X" one. Guess my signature applies again.

 

[sawtoothscream]

Ill stick with my rebuilds, they are reliable and work right.

 

[r77r7r]

I don't re-build, but I think its fine to do. I'm very happy with the machine that builds a very consistent coil for my Boge cartos.

 

[MorpheusPA]

Like AegisPrime, I got tired of spending around $40 every 2 months on Kanger T3 heads and now rebuild my own. Cost--pennies. Quality--much higher than the spotty Kanger production runs.

Kanger, like your ex-boss, would probably be ticked at the income loss as Kanthal wire and wick costs very little and a little goes a long way.

A male thing? Hardly, there are tons of female-type rebuilders out there. As for the rest of it, saving money is neither immature nor a waste of time, and the improved vape is just a major plus.

 

[CHEAPERS]

Rebuilding is a learning experience. Smart people like to learn. Vape on!

 

[AmandaD]

Well, clearly she can't rebuild - must be a security thing LOL I, on the other hand, am a middle aged woman who loves making micro coils for a Reo

 

[Hypatia]

Like AegisPrime, I got tired of spending around $40 every 2 months on Kanger T3 heads and now rebuild my own. Cost--pennies. Quality--much higher than the spotty Kanger production runs.

Kanger, like your ex-boss, would probably be ticked at the income loss as Kanthal wire and wick costs very little and a little goes a long way.

A male thing? Hardly, there are tons of female-type rebuilders out there. As for the rest of it, saving money is neither immature nor a waste of time, and the improved vape is just a major plus.

What?! Rebuilding SAVES money? I'm definitely doing it all wrong, because I always find new shiny RDA's and RBA's I want to buy. My local vape shop has grown its rebuilding inventory as the owners have learned about the need for such products (e-cig converts turned business owners). They LOVE that I and many others happily fork out $20 and up every week on the newest shiny, rather than $2-$5 for new heads/cartos.

 

[supertrunker]

Depending on your mentality, rebuilding is either a chore or therapeutic fun.

The same people that like to rebuild their stuff often make their own liquid, because they want to know everything about their vaping. It really has little relevance to her sales, because people that do these things are rarely looking to buy an Ego, which is a great device, but positioned such as to be attractive to newcomers to vaping.

If her shop is geared towards new vapers then fine, but that's not where i am at - i dropped $500 on mods for myself and the wife last week and that is for nothing more than the mods themselves, so i am not sure i am saving any money at all UNTIL i compare it to what i used to smoke

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[Zealous]

Well, I'm a woman & I love to rebuild my RDA/RBAs. I don't like rebuilding on sucky RDAs with annoying screws or awkward spaces where it's a pita to get my coil set up but that's an altogether different issue. I do like trying out different builds just to experiment & I LOVE the performance of a well built coil.

So, to answer your question, no rebuilding is not a waste of time. What IS a waste of time is hunting around for new vendors because the one you've been using got a sucky batch of heads (this hasn't actually happened to me yet but I know it's happened to others). And it's a waste of time trying to figure out why the head on your tank isn't working when if you built it yourself you'd know exactly why it's not working.

In fact, I have to say that since I started using an RBA instead of my evod I have spent significantly less time messing with the coil part of my vape & more time vaping it (once I got the coil set up just the way I wanted). And the last time I built my favorite dripper was like months ago.

 

[Huckleberried]

I'm not an old lady by any stretch, I'm 45 and I was intimidated by rebuilding, but I also got tired of the hit and miss with stock coils. Frustrating enough to make you wonder "is this all there is??" when I was newer to it. Enough of that kind of frustration and you can see why some give up so easily and go back to smoking. Thankfully we have this forum to encourage us not to give up, to find answers we're looking for and many vets that will tell you "try removing the flavor wick" or telling you what size kanthal to get for the bazillionth time, and never give it a 2nd thought.

Now, sure there's a learning curve when it comes to rebuilding and it can be hit or miss sometimes, too. But when you finally get it, it's not hype. You understand why so many people do it. Mind you, all I'm doing is making coils on a Protank or similar, I know it's even better with an RDA or RBA based on sampling someone's.

I can tell ya this, no matter how frustrated I might have gotten when rebuilding, and still sometimes get, I never smoked a cigarette the whole time I did it.

 

[Sucker_dad]

** cleaning up **

I would appreciate if we keep any political views out of these threads. There are forums for that. This is not one of them.

Having said that I will say this. While I do not agree with this particular store owners view, It is her store and her right to sell what she wants and how she wants. Just as it is the customers right to shop or not at her store. I use mechs and rebuildables exclusively, but I don't think everyone should.

 

[Steamix]

Have a B&M like that in the nieghborhood --- wick'n wire for rebuilding 's always 'on the way' and should be available in the shop soon.

I AM slow-witted sometimes, but sure, it will be available 'soon' means a week after doomsday:

Of course, they don't want you to sell a few strand of wire and some wick for a few pennies, they want to sell you their coilheads - thats where *their* profit comes from. So their's a fair chance that they'll feed you some BS to steer you away from rebuilding and walk out with coilheads off their shelves.

That shop saw the last of me after my numb skull figured that out ( pennies do get stuck sometimes...)

Apart from that, rebuilding... some like the challenge for their micromotoric skills, some use it to tweak their gear towards better performance, some like saving a few more bucks, some do it for all of these reasons.

It's your preferences that count, not the shopwner's ...

Happy vapin, happy coilin'

 

[supertrunker]

If you use microcoils (i personally don't) then it's hard to see how to get this wrong, maybe garotte yourself with the wire?

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[Mark Anthony]

I think once vaping becomes a hobby for someone, rebuilding is the way to go. I enjoy it as do many of the men and women on this forum.