Regarding a ban and stockpiling

[Vapor Pete]

I've seen many folks talking about their 1, 2, 3, and even 4 year stock of supplies. So my questions are these:

1. batteries, if not not used for a period of time, will drain until un-rechargable. So shelf life of bats?

2. Pre-filled carts, or "cartomizers"... shelf life until the liquid inside dries out?

3. Shelf life of e-juice, before the nicotine is rendered useless, or the juice becomes too coagulated to be vaporized?

If this has been discussed, and I missed , sorry

My best,
-VP

 

[NY JETS]

Hey VP...

I honestly can't imagine a ban lasting longer than a year. And you should still be able to get supplies anyway.

But as for your questions... Li-ion batteries have a shelf life of 2-3 years. I haven't seen it discussed but some people freeze their dead computer batteries with good results. It may be worth a shot.

The shelf life of nicotine is a whole different ballgame. That nicotine water that came out a few years ago had a shelf life of 1 year because it had a preservative in it. Someone with a chemistry background needs to answer this one because PG may prolong or shorten the shelf life. It would be interesting to see if adding that same preservative to e-liquid would help.

 

[eplanet]

Shelf life for the liquid apparently is 2 years...

 

[playerags]

Shelf life for the liquid apparently is 2 years...

Yeah, and one cart = one pack of smokes.

 

[Vapor Pete]

Yeah, and one cart = one pack of smokes.

LOLOL!!! Good point player!!!.....
My best,
-VP

 

[katink]

I do still have a few bottles around holding e-liquid I bought 15 months ago (and no saying how old it allready was then) - and that's still okay (I do keep all liquid in the fridge, except for a few-days-ahead amount that goes to roomtemperature). That liquid is still okay. So I don't think 2 years would be all too far off as a minimum.

 

[eplanet]

Do some research playerags, 3 different manufacturers gave me the data...

 

[JustPuffin]

Don't let all this stir you up.
There are many ways to inhale essential oils.
The nicotine is the only thing that may be in contention.
There is no way to control, stop or delay hundreds of little shipments from getting in.

Yes, they can stop by name of item or supplier or manufacturer.

Names change.

From my experience in the nutrition industry. I see the crack down on unsubstantiated claims, improper labeling and consumer fraud. Thats my take.
I may be wrong and there will certainly be cause if this makes it through.

OpenCongress - Text of H.R.1256 as Placed on Calendar Senate Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act

Yes there are definately shipments that are being held up even shipments from the company I am manufacturers representative for.

I have advised them on these issues as none of my shipments have been delayed all large orders that I received and I have received all orders have been opened and inspected. Than resealed with the green tape of authority and delivered.

 

[playerags]

Do some research playerags, 3 different manufacturers gave me the data...

I was just being a smarta$$ eliquid. I have heard 2 year before also. It was purely a dig at the manufacturers cart claims.

 

[Elendil]

Is juice freezable??

Well I'm sure you could freeze it, but what would be the result after thawing?

 

[playerags]

We used to keep out analogs in the freezer so the nic can handle it. I could take the cola that I wasted money on and try it.

 

[lachesis]

Batteries would last much longer in hybernation when only charged less than 50%, - I can't remember exact %, but IIRC, it's between 20-40%.

Easiest way to do so is to use up your battery till it's not vaping anymore, and just charge 20-40% of charge time to achieve that.

 

[DCrist721]

There's no need to stockpile. Even if it is banned, you will always be able to get supplies from other countries. Yes, it maybe be a little inconvenient having to wait a couple of extra days and having so spend more on shipping, but there's really no need to stockpile. The only people that a ban would really effect would be suppliers. I buy all kinds of stuff that's illegal/banned in the US, and only once have had customs seize anything. They just remove the product and let you know that it's illegal. You aren't legally responsible for mail sent to you, just mail that you send to others.

 

[Fedor]

There's no need to stockpile. Even if it is banned, you will always be able to get supplies from other countries. Yes, it maybe be a little inconvenient having to wait a couple of extra days and having so spend more on shipping, but there's really no need to stockpile. The only people that a ban would really effect would be suppliers. I buy all kinds of stuff that's illegal/banned in the US, and only once have had customs seize anything. They just remove the product and let you know that it's illegal. You aren't legally responsible for mail sent to you, just mail that you send to others.

I agree. Suppliers in the past 1 week has definitely seen major increase in sales.

Although it would usually mean that extra purchases would be more worthwhile due to the higher shipping. But it still doesn't mean stockpiling. It just means making the shipping money work more for you.

 

[madlock]

Even if you can get supplies from other countries, in times of high demand, prices are likely to increase accordingly. And for those who didn't plan ahead, they may find themselves paying quite a premium when they need certain items most.