My go to atomizer is the Stingray at House of Vapor. They cost nine dollars before shipping, but they last forever for me. I prefer them over the Vapeage and the .357.
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I've been having problems with the standard Joye 510 atomizers too for a while! The new style ones with the gold band just die so fast! I've noticed the center post in them arrives flat/flush with the screw threads so I'm wondering if the attys are shorting out and dieing premature deaths? I'm trying to use a paper clip now daily to get them so the center post sits higher than the bottom.
Just about every 510 I've used lately (yes, including Olympian) seem to be lasting a very short time before they fail. Is it that the Chinese would rather spend their production time on mechs? Mechs are easy engineering and you get big money from it from us twits in the west. The kind of micro-engineering that goes into a good 510 probably isn't worth their time any more. It's being so cheerful that keeps me going! 
No sooner than I was going to ask about the possibility of this, I found out it was available. I don't know if anyone else knows about this or not, but for those into LR attys, Avidvaper now has SLR 510 attys -- Super Low Resistance. 1.0Ω regular 510 attys. I have to try one! LR510 SLR Bridgeless 1.0ohm Atomizer (Cisco Spec) - Avid Vaper
Excellent - but they probably don't post to England.
Edit: But at least someone somewhere is making them. Very nice!
Edit: But at least someone somewhere is making them. Very nice!
Hey folks, been vaping 2.5 years, vape only all VG or Max VG depending on juice vendor. Well versed with using cartos, prefer them without a tank, clearos of various size, make and description, and of course dripping an atty; I do have an inexpensive RDA, which I rarely use.
My questions, just bought a couple of 801 dripping attys (on sale at IKV for 3.00 each), is there anything special I need to know about an 801 atty, or about attys from IKV? I have some good 510 to 801 adapters, and I am experienced with dripping 510 attys, is there anything special I need to know about my new 801s? Ready to fire these babies up but want to be sure I do so correctly.
My questions, just bought a couple of 801 dripping attys (on sale at IKV for 3.00 each), is there anything special I need to know about an 801 atty, or about attys from IKV? I have some good 510 to 801 adapters, and I am experienced with dripping 510 attys, is there anything special I need to know about my new 801s? Ready to fire these babies up but want to be sure I do so correctly.
Hmm...I have ZERO experience with 801s! But, based on my collective experience with 306s/901s/510s, I can tell you that, for the most part, all the same rules apply. You should be able to carry your knowledge over into that area. The atty will always tell you what it needs, even if it just needs to be replaced! LOL
Hell, I actually may have to grab some of those myself!
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Which adapter do I need to fit a 510, please? Right now I'm using a 306 to 510 but think I have a 808 to 510... would either of those adapters work for one of these sale atties? Dang, I feel like a calculator. LOL
If you need to bump your order up for better shipping, Mr., I can PP you for some cheap LR's added in. PM me if interested.
Thanks, now that I have pictures I can dig into my hoard and see if I already have one. Here 510 to 901/808-D Adapter is makes the 901 and 808 look like the same thang.
306 and 510 have the same connection. And 901 and 808 are almost exactly the same. And, 801 is unique.
901 atty can be used on an old-style 808 auto battery or on a manual 808, but not on a "sealed", new-style 808 battery. The main difference between a 901 and 808 is that the air-flow is in the atty on a 901 and in the battery on an 808.
Obviously, that means an 808 cannot be used on a 901 battery because there would be no air-flow.
901 atty can be used on an old-style 808 auto battery or on a manual 808, but not on a "sealed", new-style 808 battery. The main difference between a 901 and 808 is that the air-flow is in the atty on a 901 and in the battery on an 808.
Obviously, that means an 808 cannot be used on a 901 battery because there would be no air-flow.
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A note for anybody looking to pickup an 801 atty from IKV, the description IKV provides implies that a 510/901 drip tip will fit these attys, they don't. In the pictures provided the barrel of the atty tapers down so that it looks as though a 510 dt might fit but it doesn't. Fortunately, I had a couple of drip tips around that fit the XX size ego cartos, these fit fine, not my first choice for a dt, but I like them better than the flat tip dt that comes with these attys.
IKV has a delrin dt listed that will fit these attys, or you can get an adapter (usually listed for adapting an XX ego carto to a regular 510 style dt) from multiple other vendors.
Decided to clean my new attys with vodka before I lit them up as one had a slight oil/petro smell, so I won't get the chance to try them until I get home tonight.
Thanks for the feedback Mr. Mann.
IKV drip tip - 510 Cannon/801 Black Delrin Drip tip
Example of Drip Tip Adapter - eGo DCHV drip tip adapter
IKV has a delrin dt listed that will fit these attys, or you can get an adapter (usually listed for adapting an XX ego carto to a regular 510 style dt) from multiple other vendors.
Decided to clean my new attys with vodka before I lit them up as one had a slight oil/petro smell, so I won't get the chance to try them until I get home tonight.
Thanks for the feedback Mr. Mann.
IKV drip tip - 510 Cannon/801 Black Delrin Drip tip
Example of Drip Tip Adapter - eGo DCHV drip tip adapter
I haven't used an 801 in 6 years, so keep that in mind...
501's= Most hit, less flavor
901's= Good hit, good flavor
801's= Less hit, Most flavor
The 801's of old had an airy draw, having multiple air holes underneath the skirt around the connector. This resulted in a negligible throat hit. Those who enjoyed flavor liked them. Also keep in mind that atties back then were all around 2.9ohm. All of my knowledge of 801's may be out-dated and worthless. Thanks for reading! Haha
501's= Most hit, less flavor
901's= Good hit, good flavor
801's= Less hit, Most flavor
The 801's of old had an airy draw, having multiple air holes underneath the skirt around the connector. This resulted in a negligible throat hit. Those who enjoyed flavor liked them. Also keep in mind that atties back then were all around 2.9ohm. All of my knowledge of 801's may be out-dated and worthless. Thanks for reading! Haha
I know of only one other person from the class of 08' that I have interacted with, so you are always welcomed to say whatever. I appreciate the OG vapers!
Thanks Mr. Mann. I try to help where I can, but mostly I just feel out of touch, haha.
It's amazing. The 2008 election seems like yesterday to me , but for vaping that's in the foggy, mythical past. I wish I had tried it then. I do like hearing from those who've been around since the beginning.
Haha. It is strange, sure doesn't feel like 6 years.
There are still people from the Class of '08 around, just moved onto other forums. Some voluntarily, others no so much...sshhh, haha
It's a shame, i think you folks subscribed to this thread would have enjoyed the old atties. They just worked. I was getting a week out of them with heavy use, requiring zero maintainence. Now im lucky to get 3 days of "like new" performance from any semi-disposable.
I agree with what e-pipeman posted above. The micro-engineering of a good atty isn't as profitable as the modern options. A BCC coil is as bare bones as it gets. The same coil/wick setup, just striped of the housing that made them durable & reliable performers. Then there's RBA's which we have to build ourselves, haha.
I mean most of what is now being offered & experimented with in terms of rebuildables were found in the original atties, having dissected many myself. A cermaic cup, steel mesh, nr-r-nr wires, micro coils...only it takes proper equipment to compact that down into a tiny lil tube.
Can't help but notice that "the masses", or at least the more vocal masses active in the online communities, seem more interested in having options & something new to try every year than anything else. Using the same device & atty for 5 years is too boring for most, but not me! I loved it!
This is all just my opinion, haha. Rambling. I again agree with e-pipeman(which made me laugh) "it's being so cheerful that keeps me going!" Hahaha, good stuff.
Meh, it is what it is. Times change.
I am also curious about what has drawn you guys/gals to these style atties? I only returned to the forums a few months ago and really had to search deep for this thread. Have you all tried rebuildables? Tried the cartotanks/BCC/etc?
There are still people from the Class of '08 around, just moved onto other forums. Some voluntarily, others no so much...sshhh, haha
It's a shame, i think you folks subscribed to this thread would have enjoyed the old atties. They just worked. I was getting a week out of them with heavy use, requiring zero maintainence. Now im lucky to get 3 days of "like new" performance from any semi-disposable.
I agree with what e-pipeman posted above. The micro-engineering of a good atty isn't as profitable as the modern options. A BCC coil is as bare bones as it gets. The same coil/wick setup, just striped of the housing that made them durable & reliable performers. Then there's RBA's which we have to build ourselves, haha.
I mean most of what is now being offered & experimented with in terms of rebuildables were found in the original atties, having dissected many myself. A cermaic cup, steel mesh, nr-r-nr wires, micro coils...only it takes proper equipment to compact that down into a tiny lil tube.
Can't help but notice that "the masses", or at least the more vocal masses active in the online communities, seem more interested in having options & something new to try every year than anything else. Using the same device & atty for 5 years is too boring for most, but not me! I loved it!
This is all just my opinion, haha. Rambling. I again agree with e-pipeman(which made me laugh) "it's being so cheerful that keeps me going!" Hahaha, good stuff.
Meh, it is what it is. Times change.
I am also curious about what has drawn you guys/gals to these style atties? I only returned to the forums a few months ago and really had to search deep for this thread. Have you all tried rebuildables? Tried the cartotanks/BCC/etc?
"I am also curious about what has drawn you guys/gals to these style atties? I only returned to the forums a few months ago and really had to search deep for this thread. Have you all tried rebuildables? Tried the cartotanks/BCC/etc?" from EbenezerScrews
My philosophy, find something that works, avoid the "gimmicks" that are only good for separating a sucker from his/her money (the fan mod, or cartos that light up, as prime examples), and keep it simple and easy to use.
I absolutely love a new Smok carto loaded with Hype, Boba's or Tennessee Cured. These days though Smok single coil cartos, non-slotted/non-punched, are getting harder and harder to find, and the quality and consistency is not what it used to be. The latest generation clearos aren't too bad, and are the most convenient option when out and about. Rebuildables may be great, but they take up too much time for my taste with wrapping coils, fiddling and adjusting. I want to relax at home after work, not mess around with my vaping gear. And, most of the damn things are just too big and heavy, making my PV too top heavy and prone to falling.
A good atty is simple to use, they are pretty inexpensive (HH357s, Cisco specs, etc., being exceptions), and they work with minimal fuss. I am not interested in generating massive vape clouds just for the sake of the cloud. I could care less about pulling massive current from my batts to generate 20, 30 or 40 watts (or even higher) using four or five coils, and vaporizing as much juice as I can as fast as I can - ridiculous.
I am not opposed to change, the only permanent thing in this world is change, but change should realize an actual benefit, not just the pursuit of the latest fad.
Just my two cents.
My philosophy, find something that works, avoid the "gimmicks" that are only good for separating a sucker from his/her money (the fan mod, or cartos that light up, as prime examples), and keep it simple and easy to use.
I absolutely love a new Smok carto loaded with Hype, Boba's or Tennessee Cured. These days though Smok single coil cartos, non-slotted/non-punched, are getting harder and harder to find, and the quality and consistency is not what it used to be. The latest generation clearos aren't too bad, and are the most convenient option when out and about. Rebuildables may be great, but they take up too much time for my taste with wrapping coils, fiddling and adjusting. I want to relax at home after work, not mess around with my vaping gear. And, most of the damn things are just too big and heavy, making my PV too top heavy and prone to falling.
A good atty is simple to use, they are pretty inexpensive (HH357s, Cisco specs, etc., being exceptions), and they work with minimal fuss. I am not interested in generating massive vape clouds just for the sake of the cloud. I could care less about pulling massive current from my batts to generate 20, 30 or 40 watts (or even higher) using four or five coils, and vaporizing as much juice as I can as fast as I can - ridiculous.
I am not opposed to change, the only permanent thing in this world is change, but change should realize an actual benefit, not just the pursuit of the latest fad.
Just my two cents.
I started with joye 510s and egos... and when I started there was only SR attys. I still use all of that. I tried a carto, didn't like it. I've never tried a tank. I own a RBA, but that is just in case I can't find my beloved 510 SR attys at some point....and/or if the govern. causes a problem. I want to vape, not work so I don't want to rebuild. for me, if it ain't broke, don't fix it
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