Regular Carto Question

[Sallyem]

I'm sorry if this has already been answered....but, are the regular cartomizers going to be discontinued? I ask because on the Update threads, it seems only the premiums are being restocked?? I hope
they keep the regulars....my premiums seem to "vape out" much faster,
and some are TOO moist, gurgling and dripping juice in my mouth. Is
anyone else having this problem with the premium cartomizers?

 

[nick78]

Yep. same problem here. But its 50/50. Some premiums i just got had an awesome throat kick tons of vapor and nice flavor. After about 3 drags, throat kick was severely diminished and vapor was still good. By about the 50th hit, that damn burnt taste starts comin through!!! I hate it!!!! Then a few others that damn juice started spittin into my mouth on the first hit. THen id get a couple decent drags, very little vapor, but a throat kick, then that f@#$%^g juice comes flyin out again. These carts are way to inconsistent and im gonna have to fill these things myself. Stocked carts are either pretty good, or ya get a dud, and it seems like a good portion of them malfunction to early on in its life. Pisses me off!!!

 

[Sallyem]

I really am disappointed! After finally finding some favorites, all of a sudden they are only available in Premiums....they cost more, and they
vape out faster. Please, V4L, give us the choice, and keep the regular cartomizers and restock the ones out of stock??? PLEASE??

 

[woodman]

cartos are gooood...

 

[Kimmy]

Please, V4L, give us the choice, and keep the regular cartomizers and restock the ones out of stock??? PLEASE??

that's just almost impossible to keep both! 120+ flavors in all different nicotine strengths???? Thats unheard of!!! We can't possibly expect them to do that.

Personally I love the premiums, with the old ones the flavors would be lacking more so after use, but with the premiums the flavor and vapor remains consistent! All of my former favorites have been transfered over to premiums and I still love them--essentially the same with minor tweaks.

 

[Mary Kay]

From what we have been told, they are working on getting those prem cartos just right. The same with the flavors. Hang in there, I am sure they will get it right!
But if you are crazy for the regular cartos..I guess we need to wait for Mark or Val to reply.

 

[Sallyem]

But, Kimmy, I have premium peach and watermelon cartomizers that spray juice in my mouth, and are just plain irritating to vape! It seems
as if you're are answering my question that they are NOT going to stock the regulars any more? There are no more peach regulars, for instance.
Seems problems need to be worked out on the premiums...to get the
tastes right and the moisture correct. ??

 

[Jeff78]

But, Kimmy, I have premium peach and watermelon cartomizers that spray juice in my mouth, and are just plain irritating to vape! It seems
as if you're are answering my question that they are NOT going to stock the regulars any more? There are no more peach regulars, for instance.
Seems problems need to be worked out on the premiums...to get the
tastes right and the moisture correct. ??

I have gotten 5 boxes of watermelon, 2 boxes of sour green apple, and have not had one shoot juice in my mouth. Sorry to hear that you are having problems with these, but from the 35 that I have used I haven't had any problems, and the watermelon is an AMAZING flavor!!

 

[v1John]

Vapor has a very short lifespan. I found out that if I want to see vapor while it's still alive, I simply exhale promtly within one second after inhaling.

Also, I found out that consistency can be controlled by how soft I puff from the ecig.

I finally bought some alcohol today (The 91% Iso.-antiseptic), finally, and cleaned the threads real well, as recommended. I did not think it needed it, but it sure did need it.

 

[Mark37643]

I've only used the premium carts since I have started almost 2 months ago, and I've never had juice come out either. I'm glad I've had no problems. Sorry you've had bad luck Sally.

 

[lonercom]

I find that the flavor of premiums on my battery will last significantly longer than on my PT. After reading some other threads I kinda get that. The premium cartos burn much hotter than the originals and were designed to give the high voltage experience to regular battery users.

Turn up the heat on any liquid and it's ingredients will either evaporate or caramelize [sp]. I don't see it as a design flaw so much as a consequence of trying to appeal to a larger audience. I think that why I get the popping and sometimes a little residue when the carto is fresh.

Regarding the juice issue, it's happened to me as well. On the old ones, it was an indication that the O-Ring was either upside down or missing. The premiums don't have O-Rings so I'm thinking that perhaps it's been overfilled. When I get that first taste, I take a kleenex and blow the excess juice out, wipe the threads and if possible, remove the cap and wipe it off.

It doesn't happen often; maybe 1 out of 50. When it does happen, the others in the box will be the same way. It's an inconvenience for sure, but keep in mind that these things are filled and covered by hand. Humans do make mistakes, especially if they are under pressure to meet a quota. Even the most stringent quality control is not going to find all of the mistakes when a factory is trying to churn out 50 to 100,000 units each day.

I'm not trying to be a V4L apologist or fanboy or whatever other term is floating around. My experience tells me that these things always will occur in any new industry. For example, my first PC was a 286. When Windows was first introduced it crashed so often I went back to DOS or analogs (paper and pencil). ---Now thinking about that first 10meg hard drive and how I thought I'd never fill it---

So now you know, I'm a PC (KR808). Are you a Mac (901), Linux (501) or or one of the other OS? BTW: before the Internet we didn't need antiviruses.

 

[Sallyem]

Thank you Mark, Lonercom and Jeff for your replies. It may have been just my bad luck that I have experienced flawed premium cartomizers.
I am kind of afraid of ordering more of them, but since these things have
enabled me to stop "smoking", I am too grateful to give them up. So,
I will try them again, and hope for the best. Again, thank you for your
feedback.

 

[Adrenalynn]

If you're fairly new to vaping, you may still be in the learning period. Learning to vape, just like learning to smoke, takes time. It's not "natural behavior".

Drawing too hard on the device, like you normally would a cigarette if you're looking for a faster result, can lead to the sorts of issues you describe. You have to retrain to draw slow and stead and deep for best results.

 

[Kimmy]

^^ exactly, with ciggies we are used to be dragging hard, with these its much different, don't worry, youll get it

 

[Topso]

I only use the condom that i made a hole in so i can easy refill and that fixed the jucie in mouth problem for me Plus side you can do a small hole so you dont get jucie in your mouth but the vapor dont change. No need for o-ring or the plastic tip^^ Dont know if it will work on premiums, as i dont buy my cartomizers form here, but its worth a try ^^

 

[nick78]

The fact of the matter is there ARE bunk carts at times. Vaping isnt brain science. Yes there is a bit of a learning curve, but learning the proper way to vape should take anyone 2 days tops. Those of you who have never had a bunk cart, go buy a lottery ticket, cause i,ve had too many! When you find that perfect one, you wish all would perform like that . But they dont. When they aint lasting more than 30 puffs without burnin up, there is a problem.

 

[Defiantgroundhog]

If they just kept the reg blanks I would be happy I don't think it's going to happen but I thought I'd just make a shout out anyway.
I prefer the regs. for various reasons... personal preference. I would like to be able to still get them... I really want to have the V4L on my cartos!!!!

 

[Jeff78]

The fact of the matter is there ARE bunk carts at times. Vaping isnt brain science. Yes there is a bit of a learning curve, but learning the proper way to vape should take anyone 2 days tops. Those of you who have never had a bunk cart, go buy a lottery ticket, cause i,ve had too many! When you find that perfect one, you wish all would perform like that . But they dont. When they aint lasting more than 30 puffs without burnin up, there is a problem.

I'm not saying there aren't "Bunk" carts, because I have gotten 2 carts that did not work at all, all I was saying is that I have never had one shoot liquid into my mouth.

As for having a lot of bad carts, I would say don't walk out in a rain storm because you might just get hit with lightning, because your luck is horrible.

 

[aubergine]

I've found that really LIGHT draws on the premos makes a very big diff... just long, extremely gentle sips, really. I like 'em better than the regulars. 'Cept watermelon in 18's all gone.

 

[Jeff78]

I've found that really LIGHT draws on the premos makes a very big diff... just long, extremely gentle sips, really. I like 'em better than the regulars. 'Cept watermelon in 18's all gone.

Sorry about that aubergine I got quite a few.