Reliable affordable no frills RDA/RBA

[The Joel Train]

Thinking about diving into this now that my aerotank is starting to piss me off with dry hits. I like the fact clearos I can keep them in my pocket travel with them and vape at any angle really not have to keep it upright. I want something durable that I don't have to baby.

I looked at the igo l and w the l looks more suitable I would just single coil not to mention I haven't even built a coil. The price is so good and from what I hear quality as well but the tank looks like it can hold two drags and it has to be vaped upright. I want an rda I don't have to tend to with tinkering and refilling. The reason I like clearos is I can fill it for the day and pop on a coil but they certainly can be a pain in the ....

I know all this may be off the table for twenty and under. If anyone has suggestions please let me know thanks.

 

[Justbeachy]

A subtank mini maybe...I beleive they use pre-built attys.

 

[roxynoodle]

Under $20 and works well? I recently got an Aqua v1 clone for that, and it has great flavor. It also has afc and juice control. Only holds about 2ml of juice though.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

Not many at that price, even with going for an overseas clone. I, primarily, use a Lemo. Am happy.

Good luck.

 

[sparkky1]

So you want something you can build your own coils on ?

 

[Susan~S]

You don't want a dripper (RDA) if you don't want to drip. There is no tank. Most will leak it not kept upright.

 

[Joe13]

For less than 20 clams, you could get everthing you need to start rebuilding those AeroTank coils.

 

[BigCatDaddy]

Thinking about diving into this now that my aerotank is starting to piss me off with dry hits. I like the fact clearos I can keep them in my pocket travel with them and vape at any angle really not have to keep it upright. I want something durable that I don't have to baby.

I looked at the igo l and w the l looks more suitable I would just single coil not to mention I haven't even built a coil. The price is so good and from what I hear quality as well but the tank looks like it can hold two drags and it has to be vaped upright. I want an rda I don't have to tend to with tinkering and refilling. The reason I like clearos is I can fill it for the day and pop on a coil but they certainly can be a pain in the ....

I know all this may be off the table for twenty and under. If anyone has suggestions please let me know thanks.

The $20 limit pretty much puts you out of the running for anything that will do what you want. JMHO, get an Atlantis tank and the Aspire subohm battery and vape like a big dog!! They don't leak, the coils last a good long while and the flavor and vapor is excellent. If you've already got a mod that will fire the 0.5 Ω coil you can just get the tank.

 

[readeuler]

I'm a big fan of dripping. I know people are very happy with Igo's (all the different letter varieties), but I've never used one. My first dripper was a bare-bones trident, and it was awesome. Very small but I could still get 30 hits before needing to redrip (at 15 watts).

All drippers do like to be held mostly upright. My favorite at the moment is a Stillare. I got this one. It's very leak resistance, large drip well, and can withstand high wattage very well, if that's something you're into.

But that's just me. Dripping is way worth the small amount of hassle to me.

 

[The Joel Train]

You don't want a dripper (RDA) if you don't want to drip. There is no tank. Most will leak it not kept upright.

Makes sense does that mean clearos are really the best option. I could always try rebuilding coils of I want. It just gets annoying with the aerotank if your voltage goes slightly too high or if you use any juice thicker than 75 pg the coils last a few days maybe a week. And I don't like buying them. Maybe a sub ohm tank smoktech has one personally I don't want anymore kanger and aspire is pricey.

 

[The Joel Train]

For less than 20 clams, you could get everthing you need to start rebuilding those AeroTank coils.

I thought about that before too currently I am getting dry hits even after a dry burn, long soak in solution, and flipping the rubber garment, I also opened the coil and looked it doesn't look burnt. I just don't know if it's just a coil problem also as I said it gets annoying every few months an issue that just can't be solved comes up. I vape at minimal watts on an istick.

 

[Susan~S]

Try thinning out your juice with a little distilled water. That will help with wicking.

You will not be able to use any of the new sub-ohm tanks (unless they have +1 ohm coils) as the original iStick won't fire below 1.0 ohms.

 

[Joe13]

Thinner liquid may help with the wicking.

Rebuilt coils can be wicked with a material like Japanese organic cotton, which is very thirsty and absorbent. The amount of wick material can also be adjusted to the liquid you're using.

One more thing... Do you by chance have the airflow wide open? Closing it just a bit will help with the partial vacuum inside the coil assembly.

Don't get "lazy" with your draw technique. You should be drawing hard enough to feel some resistance. The vacuum is necessary to pull liquid from the tank, thru the wick, into the coil itself.

 

[TorontoOntario]

Can you increase your budget a little bit. I have two amazing options for you. Number one is a Subtank Mini or Nano(18mm), they shine around 25-28W with the sub ohm coil and really sing around 15-18W with the 1.2 I have found, they have amazing flavor for a clearo (going to blow your aero tank out of the watter,) you can vape em with thick thick juice chain style and not get a dry hit AND the best part IMO is it comes with a RTA (rebuildable tank atomizer) head so if you want to go that route you can but don't have to. It chucks pretty nice clouds, conserves juice quite well for a sub ohm setup and the flavor is damn good with the prebuilt heads which to top it off are straight up organic cotton and that's all. Now number two is the Joytech Delta II, it shines around 40-50W IMO but I do vape it much higher on occasion, it CHUCKS clouds and IMO the flavor is a bit better then the sub tank but that could be just due to the fact I prefer a warmer vape and the Delta II offers that at 55-70W where as the Subtank will just taste dry and burnt that high (not a bad thing though as it vapes amazing at a lower wattage) and it has an option for a RTA head as well.

Overall I like the Delta II better and that has been the same opinion of everyone down at my local vape shop I let try it (a week latter my group of guys I hang out with down there all got em on there devices lol.) This thing really chucks the clouds I mean much more then the Atlantis, Melo and Subtank and as I said I would give the edge to flavor to the Delta II. The Subtank is really an exceptional clearo though and it really depends how you want to vape. For example my roommate actually finally quit smoking with a Subtank (.5 ohm pre built coils) at 25W. He doesn't like the "warmth and density" of the vape from the Delta II at 40W+ nearly as much as he enjoys the cool tuned down vape of the Sub. This is not to say the Sub doesn't put out clouds cause even at 25W it chucks enough for me but again for my own personal reasons I like the Delta II. Tell me about your style of vapeing and I can offer an opinion on which one to get.

The thing is though, you are going to need a device that fires sub ohm unless you use the 1.2 ohm coils in the Subtank which still work really well. I wouldn't really recommend a Nautilus anymore or the likes (aerotank, silo etc etc) just because the Sub has some serious flavor and doesn't need to be run at sub ohm resistance in crazy high wattage. As stated I set my roommate up with a Clopour Mini and a Subtank at 25W and after trying countless Ego style batteries, a Vamo with a Naitilus, a Silo tank on an I Stick and a few other setups he hasn't touched a smoke in days and doesn't care to.

Edit: In comparison with at Atlantis the Sub has sooo much better flavor as does the Delta II, please don't let your bad experience with an Aerotank limit you from buying a Subtank because there really extremely different and Kanger really hit this one out of the park. The Atlantis was an amazing clearo when it dropped because there was nothing else out like it but IMO the flavor is really, really lacking on the Atlantis. I mean I NEVER use it anymore, all my love goes to the Subtank Minis, Nanos and Delta IIs I own. Well, for clearos at least.

 

[bluecat]

I still use my IGO L and W. They work. I can get about 10 or so drops in each..it all depends how much cotton you like. Sometimes I like alot of cotton other times just a little.

I only do single coils so they were perfect. Only thing I did was drill the airhole out some. Since there was already a hole, it was easy. What are they a couple bucks now? Even cheaper if you go clones?

Yes it does leak if you tilt over drip.. but if you get the right amount it wont leak unless you leave it on its side.

 

[TorontoOntario]

I still use my IGO L and W. They work. I can get about 10 or so drops in each..it all depends how much cotton you like. Sometimes I like alot of cotton other times just a little.

I only do single coils so they were perfect. Only thing I did was drill the airhole out some. Since there was already a hole, it was easy. What are they a couple bucks now? Even cheaper if you go clones?

Yes it does leak if you tilt over drip.. but if you get the right amount it wont leak unless you leave it on its side.

I think he established that maybe a dripper isn't for him right now in his journey or else I would have added RDAs in each category (flavor, clouds and general) to try to assist him. I may be wrong and if I am and you are in fact considering a dripper post up and I will create another reply outlining my thoughts on drippers for you. You can get drippers dirt cheap (clones that is, I bought an authentic Plume thinking it was going to be like an ahh-haaa moment but it really wasn't worth it) so if that's something you are interested in let me know as there is a ton of options out there and it can get overwhelming. I really would like to know your "style of vape (OP)." Do you chase flavor, clouds, what resistance is typical, what power is typical and so forth. A good topper is essential to having a satisfying setup. I mean really anything that will go to your desired watts is similar but the topper really matters a lot IMO.

 

[The Joel Train]

Thinner liquid may help with the wicking.

Rebuilt coils can be wicked with a material like Japanese organic cotton, which is very thirsty and absorbent. The amount of wick material can also be adjusted to the liquid you're using.

One more thing... Do you by chance have the airflow wide open? Closing it just a bit will help with the partial vacuum inside the coil assembly.

Don't get "lazy" with your draw technique. You should be drawing hard enough to feel some resistance. The vacuum is necessary to pull liquid from the tank, thru the wick, into the coil itself.

I use 75 pg and I did set my airflow way minimally open for vacuum. I feel like a dumb @$$ I remembered how to draw a vape and it's better been drawing it like an analog....Not my proudest moment -_-

 

[The Joel Train]

I think he established that maybe a dripper isn't for him right now in his journey or else I would have added RDAs in each category (flavor, clouds and general) to try to assist him. I may be wrong and if I am and you are in fact considering a dripper post up and I will create another reply outlining my thoughts on drippers for you. You can get drippers dirt cheap (clones that is, I bought an authentic Plume thinking it was going to be like an ahh-haaa moment but it really wasn't worth it) so if that's something you are interested in let me know as there is a ton of options out there and it can get overwhelming. I really would like to know your "style of vape (OP)." Do you chase flavor, clouds, what resistance is typical, what power is typical and so forth. A good topper is essential to having a satisfying setup. I mean really anything that will go to your desired watts is similar but the topper really matters a lot IMO.

Everyone has been very helpful here's my vaping journey. I don't really care about clouds I'm all about flavor I tend to vape mainly menthol but enjoy the occasional flavor. I use high pg 75/25 but if I want a fruit or desert I would like to go 50/50. My resistance is 1.5 ohms to 1.8 ohms watts 5.0 to 5.4 I am low watt but then again I go above 5.4 I get burnt taste on my aerotank so I haven't tried high voltage vape.

So I am a flavor vaper don't care about clouds. I don't want to have to tinker constantly with my set up I just want a simple reliable set up that takes minimal effort. Maybe RDAs aren't right for me I like to be able to keep my set up in my pocket so I can vape on the go which also means not having to refill constantly but I also don't need a giant tank. I am not a chain vapor. My current set up is an aerotank with an eleaf istick. Clones do interest me I don't need a name brand and I am cheap.

 

[TorontoOntario]

Everyone has been very helpful here's my vaping journey. I don't really care about clouds I'm all about flavor I tend to vape mainly menthol but enjoy the occasional flavor. I use high pg 75/25 but if I want a fruit or desert I would like to go 50/50. My resistance is 1.5 ohms to 1.8 ohms watts 5.0 to 5.4 I am low watt but then again I go above 5.4 I get burnt taste on my aerotank so I haven't tried high voltage vape.

So I am a flavor vaper don't care about clouds. I don't want to have to tinker constantly with my set up I just want a simple reliable set up that takes minimal effort. Maybe RDAs aren't right for me I like to be able to keep my set up in my pocket so I can vape on the go which also means not having to refill constantly but I also don't need a giant tank. I am not a chain vapor. My current set up is an aerotank with an eleaf istick. Clones do interest me I don't need a name brand and I am cheap.

Ok, I don't think a dripper is right for you AT THIS CURRENT TIME, doesn't mean you cant get into them latter. Ok man, I really think your going to be extremely happy if you get a Subtank Mini or Nano. The difference is the Nano doesn't come with a RTA head (rebuildable tank atomizer) and is 18mm in diameter instead of 22. I would get the Mini just because you may one day wish to wrap a coil and with the Mini you got the option. I would say use the 1.2 ohm pre made coils in it and turn your I stick up to 15W and then gradually go up till you find your sweet spot. The flavor is going to rock your world buddy, you wont get a nasty dry or burnt hit and using the 1.2 ohm coils your not cloud chasing at all. I would suggest you close the airflow down to the second biggest if you like mouth to lung hits (vape like you smoked a cig I assume.) This is going to provide you a vape similar to what you currently have just 100 times better. You can say bye to dry hits and hello to flavor. 15W is not high wattage vapeing either and I am sure you will like it with the absence of dry hits. Its a clearo and you also have the option if you ever want to try sub-ohm vapeing to put a 0.5 ohm head in it but where you currently are in your journey a 1.2 is better suited to you IMHO. Your going to need to come up with another $20 or so on top of the $20 you set out but I am telling you that it is going to rock way better then that Aerotank. I know first hand how sucky it is to get dry hits and burnt taste specially if your a flavor junkie. Please don't let the fact its made by Kanger deter you, its an AMAZING clearo and Kanger hit it out of the park with this for sure. I haven't found a person who hasn't thoroughly enjoyed the Subtank Mini and I KNOW you will experience a much more satisfying, flavorful vape with this clearo at around 15W with the 1.2 ohm head in it then you are getting right now with the Aero. Anymore questions feel free to fire away my friend.

 

[93gc40]

Less than $20 is easy Kayfun, orchid lemo ect and many other clones. Provided you don't mind waiting 4-6weeks for delivery You could do a Rebuildable tank and a VV/VW mod for less than $50. Try Fastech or Focalecig, anglecigs ebay ect. DO NOT order loose batteries from China, your order may never arrive. Builtins OK.

I replace my Kanger PT3s for a Kayfun. Exponentially more vapor and flavor for $12. Since it is too big for an EGO batt "had" to get a Origin Mod, $20 and a VV/VW Kick 8, charger 4 and batts 12. I already had cotton balls and wire due to rebuilding the Kangers The Kayfun works fine with the EGO style batt, just look funny.