Replacement for nichrome coil...

[jxmiller]

Just finished rereading this thread and want to commend you guys on the work so far, looks promising.
I did some googling and came across these porous ceramic cups that can be custom made(min order I'm sure). I sent them an inquiry, we'll see what happens.
Here is the link to some specs on them. Maybe something that would help here.
Possibly putting the coil and wick directly into the cup? Just throwing some ideas out there.

I believe this thread is here discussing a non "coil" atomizer (via ceramic heater). Read the thread again, there are pics.

Interesting stuff you mentioned though.

Edit:
Reading your post again were you talking about a DIY ceramic heater? If so it defeats the purpose of being able to clean the atomizer easily. If the coils come in contact with liquid they will build up residue (gunk). I believe the point of this design (the one we are testing) is so that the ceramic can be cleaned easily and it be ready to go fairly effortlessly. There are design issues that have not fully been addressed which is what we are trying to accomplish at this point.

If wifey lets me I may buy (not just for this threads tests) a laser temp reader.

 

[SurfVortex]

Hey Everybody!
Well, the crack in my particular heater has not seemed to have had an effect on the way it worked before it cracked. So, I'm getting some vapor, but not a whole lot. This could be due to it having been originally compromised, thus making it crack. What I'm doing now is messing around with various styles and thicknesses of wick-wrapping around the heater. The wicking material needs to be thick enough so that juice is surrounding the heater, but not so much that the heater takes forever to produce because it is busy heating the wick.
What's everyone else experiencing w/their experiments?
Onward!!!!!!!!!!

 

[basementscientist]

Hi, i've been watching this project, and find it very interesting.

Would it be possible to use the laser diode from a dvd burner to vaporize the fluid. I've seen people set things on fire with them.

Possibly use capillary action in a narrow tube to bring the solution where it's needed.

Just my 2 cents.

Oh yeah, I will shortly be a proud owner of a VK unit when it arrives.

 

[slade420]

Hey guys and gals, im new to the forum and new to E-cigs. i was introduced to them by my friend. Now i dont smoke cigarettes, but i want to convert one into a electric meical vapourizer with Vegetable glycerin + Liqidized THC and other cannabis + Ethanol. I have a study from the university of kentucky. demonstrating thc administration nasally with VG and ethanol and without ethanol. They found that with ethanol the (cmax =0.05h) im not a scientist but if i understand this correctly that means it takes 3 minutes to take effect. Ethanol also increases the bioavailibility... or something lol it gets confusing.

Now to my main hurdle, i need an atomizer that has an working/vapourizing temp of 213-216 degrees Celsius. here are the different temps for cannabis. different "cannabinoids" in the cannabis extract.
CBD 206.3°C, CBN 212.7°C, THC 149.3°C
Im not sure what affect the VG and ethanol will have on the Vapourizing temps. Any help or info would be very helpful.

 

[jxmiller]

Hey guys and gals, im new to the forum and new to E-cigs. i was introduced to them by my friend. Now i dont smoke cigarettes, but i want to convert one into a electric meical vapourizer with Vegetable glycerin + Liqidized THC and other cannabis + Ethanol. I have a study from the university of kentucky. demonstrating thc administration nasally with VG and ethanol and without ethanol. They found that with ethanol the (cmax =0.05h) im not a scientist but if i understand this correctly that means it takes 3 minutes to take effect. Ethanol also increases the bioavailibility... or something lol it gets confusing.

Now to my main hurdle, i need an atomizer that has an working/vapourizing temp of 213-216 degrees Celsius. here are the different temps for cannabis. different "cannabinoids" in the cannabis extract.
CBD 206.3°C, CBN 212.7°C, THC 149.3°C
Im not sure what affect the VG and ethanol will have on the Vapourizing temps. Any help or info would be very helpful.

The powers that be on this forum do not like talk of "drugs". I think what you are trying to do is great though. Keep going and find a forum that will suit your needs better. I personally don't agree with all THC talk being deleted or punishable here... there is a place for everything. I think it has the same end as ecigs. Much healthier to Vaporize. Get healthy.

 

[slade420]

if the mods find it appropriate to delete my posts so be it, even tho i dont see any problem with it. I am not breaking any laws, in Canada where i am, and in 14 U.S. states cannabis is LEGAL for medicinal use. I am not some kid tryin to find a new way to get high. If i was i wouldnt be asking all the questions. id just use any old E-cig, because thc vapourizes at 140 degrees Celsius. Delta 9 thc is the compound that gets you "high". its the cbd, cbg and cbn, that have the most medicinal properties. High levels of delta-9 THC has been proven in multiple studies to kill cancerous cells and tumours. I have years of cannabis research under my belt, a legal need for medical cannabis, and a vast knowledge of International Drug laws. THC ,Like cigarettes, it is not FDA approved. Yet they are allowed to sell them to everyone with $5.00 in their pocket. Causing cancer and and other illnesses, that has affected my family personally. We are fighting the same battle again unjust laws. Only difference is that there is not 800,000 people arrested every year for E-cigarette possession.

Cannabis is non-toxic, medicine used for treating cancer and many other serious illnesses. Cannabis IS medicine and has been used as such for over 5000 years. To say this is something im passionate about is an understatement.

For more info look up Rick Simpson's Cannabis Oil / Run from the cure. He is now a political exile from Canada, currently living in Amsterdam. People all over the world swear by his oil. using it for cancer, aids, Parkinson's, M.S, and Chron's disease.

 

[slade420]

hey guys, sorry if i killed your thread, it wasnt my intent. so try to get it rolling again, has anyone considered an air stone, even a small one or a small piece. they are used to oxygenate the water in a fish tank. if it is ceramic and and connected to a metal tube hollow or solid piece with a channel in the side, like some designs ive seen. im new at this so bare with me. the way i see it, the porous stone can act as a wicking device, and as it warms up wont the heat pull the liquid through the stone?

 

[bereal]

Any updates on the testing? I have been watching this thread hoping something comes of it and now its a bit quiet here. Have you all agreed this one is too far off to continue with the ceramic heater?Or is there still some things you will try?

 

[slade420]

Ill make a ceramic atty, ive found the exact material to use. the airstones it mentioned above, some are made of Aluminum Oxide Ceramic. The aluminum oxide makes the ceramic very hard and rough. Instead of brittle. They are made at 1300 degrees C so i dont think it will burn out. The stone has is very porous. with holes measuring 200 microns. the smallest one ive found so far measures 30mm x 15mm. The same materials are used in superconductors and microheaters. Micro-heaters is what people should be looking into. They are tiny like an atty, maybe smaller. They are described on Wikipedia as:

"Microheaters are small high power heaters with precise control, that can offer temperatures in excess of 1000C, even up to 1900C....With an increase in usable temperature, microheaters need to be supported or enclosed with very high thermal-resistant ceramic materials often made from small grain, high purity aluminum oxide." This of course pointed me right back to the air-stones.

Any thoughts are welcome.

 

[Silverthorn181]

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[dubnluvn]

updates anyone???

 

[SurfVortex]

......Let us join together in prayer........
What's going on everyone!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[varalMCheelflip]

All this sounds totally doable
GET THE BALL ROLLING YALL!
haha seriously I want one of these attys

 

[Theophage]

I guess they all vaporized.

 

[Scubabatdan]

I guess they all vaporized.

LOL, nope just to many projects. Like being on a rollar coster, faaaaasssst..... Slooooooooow.... Fassssst... etc.
We are in football season!
Dan

 

[Theophage]

LOL, nope just to many projects. Like being on a rollar coster, faaaaasssst..... Slooooooooow.... Fassssst... etc.
We are in football season!
Dan

This is great work, anyhow. I get the impression that making this heater fit into a conventional sized package has been rather challenging. If this is the case for some of y'all, I recommend throwing out the rule book about what the device has to look like, or how large it is. It is far easier to deal with one problem at a time.
IMHO, the goal right now, is to devise a means to have the heater wetted with juice. If you need to use the water pump out of an '85 Ford F-150 to do so, have at it.
Figure out how to do that before worrying about the size issues. Too, don't accept the limitation of using an existing e-cig battery. If necessary, developing a power supply which which is ideally suited to a new heater should be considered a separate issue. These issues can all be handled, but NOT all at once.

How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.

 

[duke118]

Is this idea dead or alive? Anyone still working on this?

 

[steamhit]

anyone still working on this guys?

 

[randomness]

I'd be interested in knowing if anyone's still playing around with this concept - seems to me it could be really exciting once the kinks are worked out.

J

 

[srolesen]

I'd be interested in knowing if anyone's still playing around with this concept - seems to me it could be really exciting once the kinks are worked out.

J

same here