Replacement help for Totally Wicked American Red Red Label

[KingMeof]

I've been using this concentrate for years, but it seems that Totally Wicked is no longer selling it. I went ahead and ordered all that they had, but I need to find a replacement. Anyone out there ever used Totally Wicked's American Red Red Label and know of another concentrate that's similar? Ideally, someone will tell me that they just rebrand it from another company. *Fingers crossed*
Thanks for any info!

 

[classwife]

I edited your thread title a bit to see if we can get you some help

 

[KingMeof]

Awesome. Thank you, kindly.

 

[oplholik]

You might try contacting them to see what they have to say.

 

[classwife]

...any particular flavor(s) ?
What you like about the flavor(s) ?
Strength you like of the flavor(s) ?
Might help greatly in finding a substitute.

 

[bombastinator]

The term “red label” implies it is an attempt to clone marlboros . I would start looking at other Marlboro clones. Iirc totally wicked is primarily a relabeler. They don’t actually make much of their own stuff, so the chances are fairly high you can find whatever they were relabeling as their own.

 

[Vicman]

Might want to try USA Red from Hangsen (HS). It is an attempt at a Marlboro Red cigarette and is one of the better attempts out there. Plus, if what Bombastinator said is true and they relabel stuff, might be what you're looking for and they just renamed it.

 

[bombastinator]

Might want to try USA Red from Hangsen (HS). It is an attempt at a Marlboro Red cigarette and is one of the better attempts out there. Plus, if what Bombastinator said is true and they relabel stuff, might be what you're looking for and they just renamed it.

It at one point was true. Whether it still is or not I do not know. As soon as I figured it out I stopped buying from them because anything they had could therefore be gotten more cheaply elsewhere. It may no longer be the case though. They have grown significantly since I last dealt with them.

 

[KingMeof]

It comes off as a rich, sweet pipe tobacco. They say it's a tobacco flavor with a bit of hazelnut in it. I tried asking them where they got it from, thinking that they would tell me since they are no longer selling it, but it seems the person I talked to was unwilling to part with that information.

 

[IDJoel]

it seems that Totally Wicked is no longer selling it.

I'm confused. "Red Label" appears to be there ready-to-vape e-liquid line (no mixing; just vape it). Their proprietary flavor concentrate line (you add your own PG, VG, and nic concentrate to their flavor concentrate; and mix together before vaping) looks like it is called the Gold Standard line. Both look readily available and in stock to me:
Ready-to-vape:10ml Red Label E-liquid - American Red Tobacco
Flavor only concentrate:20ml Gold Standard Concentrate
(second option in the drop-down menu for American Red Tobacco)
Which is it you are really looking for?

As for tasty pipe-like (to me) concentrates; I like Am4a, and Gold Ducat, both from Inawera. Both are good as stand-alones; but each also plays well with other concentrates like nuts, fruits, creams, and even each other. Both are potent flavors and work well (for me) in the 3-4% range. Do be aware that the Gold Ducat is a coil killer (coils gunk up fast); though the flavor is good enough to put up with changing coils more frequently.

Note: these are actual concentrates and require the addition of your own PG, VG, and nicotine.

Disclaimer: I have never tasted TW Red Label - American Red Tobacco; so I don't know if either of these may be comparable, or even in the same flavor range.

But, again I am confused, as the Totally Wicked website describes TW Red Label - American Red Tobacco as:
"American Red Tobacco - The cowboy’s classic tobacco flavor, silky, creamy tobacco with a hint of caramel. Complete with a smooth and distinct finish."
That sound like it is intended as more of a cigarette tobacco vs. pipe.

 

[KingMeof]

Yeah, it's no longer being sold. That's the problem. Their premixed american red is their old gold label concentrate. I actually had to call them to grab the last of the red label concentrate because it's no longer on their site.

 

[stols001]

So, are you looking to mix, looking for a similar premade eliquid or what. It's probably a good place to start DIY since you know you like the flavor.

Couple things: Tobaccos do tend to need time to age, so it may not taste "similar" to the eliqud for a while. It also may not hurt to find another tobacco manufacturer that make something similar, I think they are out there.

Order small, tester sized bottles if you do, until you find other things you like.

Best of luck!

Anna

 

[KingMeof]

I'm looking for the concentrate so I can mix my own. I've been mixing this flavor for years, and I know how it tastes after steeping for various times. I was hoping someone here had some inside baseball on it.