Replacement menthol... does it even exist?

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This is the third or fourth time i have ventured into the world of going smokeless, and this always seems to be the best chance i have.

Every time i am severely disappointed with anything i try, all due to the "throat hit", or "Bite" or however you want to coin the term. I smoke full flavor menthol cigarettes, maybe thats just to difficult to replicate with these things.

Is there anything out there that can come close to replicate this feeling?

I have searched and searched and searched, every thing "claims" it does it.

Someone with some experience, a true real world smoker, that has come across something in this digital world that comes close enough where a person could make the transition, please let me know.

Also, i would rather steer away from something to complicated, ease of use is an issue...if its 10 times easier to just grab a pack at the store, then it makes it more difficult for me to stay off the real smoke.

I dont care how much it costs.
 

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Halo Truepure is the closest I've come to a menthol cigarette. Many juices come in nport or nuport varieties - they're a good start. An eGo with dual coil cartos is easy to use and refill/top off. Many people here like Boge low resistance (LR) 2.0 ohm cartos for more throat hit. Goodprophets.com is a good source for kits that come with cartomizers. If you do some searches here and look at the suppliers listed here that have forums you should get some good ideas!
 

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If you like a really strong menthol, you may want to look into adding pure menthol crystals to your juice. A lot of vendors sell them; I ordered mine from AZSmokefree.com

You probably won't find anything that tastes exactly like the cigarettes you were smoking, but there are a lot of good menthols out there that will mimic the strong cool hit of a menthol cig. Hang in there!
 

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Halo Truepure is the closest I've come to a menthol cigarette. Many juices come in nport or nuport varieties - they're a good start. An eGo with dual coil cartos is easy to use and refill/top off. Many people here like Boge low resistance (LR) 2.0 ohm cartos for more throat hit. Goodprophets.com is a good source for kits that come with cartomizers. If you do some searches here and look at the suppliers listed here that have forums you should get some good ideas!

So i should buy this

Joye eGo-Maniac e cigarette Starter Kit.. then i just need to buy liquid and i can refill the cartridges that come with this thing? Is there anything else i would need?
 

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If you like a really strong menthol, you may want to look into adding pure menthol crystals to your juice. A lot of vendors sell them; I ordered mine from AZSmokefree.com

You probably won't find anything that tastes exactly like the cigarettes you were smoking, but there are a lot of good menthols out there that will mimic the strong cool hit of a menthol cig. Hang in there!

I dont think its really the flavor, i smoke a specific brand, but random menthols of a different or various brands dont bug me, its the throat hit that i need to get as close to as possible.
 

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I am convinced "throat hit" is bull..... Listen, you need more nicotine. What's the highest nic content juice you've vaped? You obviously need more. There is nothing wrong with starting at 32mg.

Ive got nothing against using whatever amount of nicotine it takes, but having been a smoker for 13 years and having tried ecigs before, i can tell you there is definitely such a thing as throat hit, especially from a strong menthol cigarette. I cant feel a light cigarette, feels like im sucking cotton down my throat, but a strong menthol gives me that burn on the back of my throat, not a heat burn, hard to explain, maybe its the feeling of the nicotine on the membrane, i dont really know. What i do know though, is puffing on something that doesnt give me that throat hit, gives me the illusion that i didnt even smoke, and i personally think 90% of the smoking addiction is the actions and sensations. Without those, my mind is constantly thinking about lighting up.
 

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You could buy the same kit from Cignot.com and get your liquids all in one order. The problem I see with GP is they aren't selling much in liquids and nothing at all in menthol.

The best menthol I have found is the Boge/Dekang NPort. It's strong, and has a clear menthol flavor. A lot of the menthol wannabees I've tried taste more like wintergreen or peppermint than menthol.

You have to keep in mind too that you won't find something that tastes exactly like a cigarette. It's one of the first questions that comes up. Vaping is very different because you aren't burning anything and there is no actual tobacco involved. For example, the NPort I suggested is a great menthol flavor, but if you are expecting something like "menthol tobacco" that will be absent.
 

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Hey! I'm pretty new here myself, but as far as hardware goes for ease of use, my bf and I are both using the new Ego-C.

We charge the battery at night (you get 2). Fill the tank (he's currently using the menthol from Ovale that came with his starter kit. We put a note in the comments section asking for his free juice to be menthol). Grab and go and vape all day.

For a stronger throat hit, go ahead and pick up a pack of LR atomizers at the same time, and use those instead of the SR atomizers that come with the kit.

Hope this helps. We also have menthol on order from another company as well. I don't remember the name and I'm on my phone.
 
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Here's a DIY answer. The following recipe makes 6ml of 24mg/ml with strong tobacco and menthol flavors:

2.4 ml of 60mg/ml PG-based nicotine. (See warnings in DIY forum and there is also a list of suppliers.)
.8 ml of propylene glycol (can be purchased from the same folks who sell nic. On a large scale, buy at tractor supply_
2 drops of Flavour Art "shade tobacco"
1 drop of Perfumer's Apprentice "DK Tobacco Base"
4 drops of Perfumer's Apprentice "Creme de menthe"
4 drops of Perfumer's Apprentice "Green Apple" (trust me -- it accentuates the menthol in this case)
2 drops of Perfumer's Apprentice "Wintergreen" (this is water soluble)
6 drops of Perfumer's Apprentice "Menthol in PG"
Enough glycerin to make up the 6ml. You can buy glycerin at the pharmacy.

Shake well. Nuke some water in a cup for 2 mins in the microwave. Tightly cap the bottle, and put it in the (already microwaved) water. Let it sit for 20-30 minutes.

Try it out. Next day it's even better.
 

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Hey Scribes,

I can relate exactly to where you're at. I smoked exclusively full-flavor menthols (whatever name brand had the best deal whether it was 'Ports, Kool, Marlboro Menthol, etc). At least a pack a day for 25 years. And as a menthol guy, even when I had to bum a cigarette, if it wasn't menthol, I didn't enjoy it.

In late October, I started looking into vaping. Started off with a gas station POS in menthol. It sucked, but I could see that if I could a find a better version of that, it might work.

I researched alot, and ended up getting a Icon V.1.1 from puresmoker.com. This nice little device came w/ 2 batteries (so I always have a fresh one), a charger, and I got some cartomizers, cuz I didnt want to have to pause all the time to drip. I also ordered their Silver leaf Menthol juice...whole thing cost like 110.00 shipped.

Let me tell you, as soon as I fired that thing up, I knew I could do this vaping thing. MAJOR throat hit, enuff nicotine to make my head spin (I ordered it in 24mg strength) and I can vape all day. Last ciggie on Oct 26 and havent looked back.

Since then, I also got an EGO 510 USB pass-through which plugs into my laptop cuz I work from home. This works great too.

Funny thing is, I've bought some non menthol juice since then, and I like that too. I just like to smoke---I mean vape. :)
Seriously dude, if I were you I would get an Pass through battery with a 510 tip (costs like 20 bux) and like 10 LOW REZ (they burn hotter) cartos and a 18ml bottle of Silver Leaf Menthol...it has a real menthol tobacco taste...Just my two cents and good luck dude
 
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Save yourself a lot of headache and do it right or very close to right the first time. Even if this formula isn't for you, you have a great starting point, and it's just a matter of tweaking little things to get to where you want to be.

Buy yourself a Joye Ego (not the T as I've heard a lot of bad reviews on it)
Buy yourself a few mega dual coil cartomizers
Buy yourself a good menthol juice

Taste is subjective, if you ask which juice, you're gonna get a lot of different answers.. I've tasted Nuport from TopVapes through the MadVapes site.. You will never find a juice that tastes like a cigarete. I started with Newports, Kools in Japan, Marlboro Menthols, Marlboro Menthol Lights, and finally Marlboro Menthol Ultra Lights. The juice from MadVapes tastes like nuts, caramel, and mint, but you also get a cooling sensation as it hits your lungs. Again, taste is subjective, so this juice could taste completely different to someone else. At 24MG, it was too much throat hit for me. Again, the last cigarette I smoked was an Menthol Ultra Light. If I were to get this at 18MG, I would enjoy it as a menthol like cigarette.

With all this said, I enjoy the fact that I vape and it doesn't taste like a cigarette. I feel that if I were to vape something that tasted like a cigarette, I would probably just start smoking cigarettes again. To each their own though. Good luck!
 

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I don't think it's bad juice, it just has a very medicinal taste to me with a strange after taste. I recently tried it again because I was giving some to my nephew and it did taste better than I remembered. But their base has a distinct taste. If you happen to like that, you'll love their juice. I think BWB and Johnson's Creek are the same way. They all have a unique base.
 

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Save yourself a lot of headache and do it right or very close to right the first time. Even if this formula isn't for you, you have a great starting point, and it's just a matter of tweaking little things to get to where you want to be.

Buy yourself a Joye Ego (not the T as I've heard a lot of bad reviews on it)
Buy yourself a few mega dual coil cartomizers
Buy yourself a good menthol juice

Taste is subjective, if you ask which juice, you're gonna get a lot of different answers.. I've tasted Nuport from TopVapes through the MadVapes site.. You will never find a juice that tastes like a cigarete. I started with Newports, Kools in Japan, Marlboro Menthols, Marlboro Menthol Lights, and finally Marlboro Menthol Ultra Lights. The juice from MadVapes tastes like nuts, caramel, and mint, but you also get a cooling sensation as it hits your lungs. Again, taste is subjective, so this juice could taste completely different to someone else. At 24MG, it was too much throat hit for me. Again, the last cigarette I smoked was an Menthol Ultra Light. If I were to get this at 18MG, I would enjoy it as a menthol like cigarette.

With all this said, I enjoy the fact that I vape and it doesn't taste like a cigarette. I feel that if I were to vape something that tasted like a cigarette, I would probably just start smoking cigarettes again. To each their own though. Good luck!

Alot of really good info from everyone so far, thank you all very much. I like this guys approach..im an obvious noob, and even sorting through the jargon threads and trying to figure out what is what, this one has given me a good approach (as have others). However, i keep seeing Joye Ego come up, and was wondering about the T vs C vs whatever else there is.

Cartomizers are the things that i refill with liquid? And i can keep refilling them?
Theres so many websites selling this stuff, so many "kits", do i need a kit? Can someone just link me to specifically everything i need for a good quality, high throat hit, good battery, cartomizer, etc... I will continue to read and research, theres just so much out there.

Again though, flavor im not as concerned about...at least i wasnt when i tried it before...the taste didnt bother me, it was the feeling of that burn in my throat that left me craving a real cigarette.
 
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