Reynold American files for FDA review of e-cigarette
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BTW - This is one of the most, if not, The Most Monumental Posts ever done on the ECF.
I’d forgotten about vuse. Those things are terrible. Iirc it was an out of date design bought from a Chinese manufacturer years ago.
Still probably just an old purchased Chinese design. It’s a pattern for the gas station garbage stuff.
Might be not be the best, but they got my wife off the cigs. Expensive as hell though. Guess it's worth it though, she wouldn't give anything else a chance. Maybe eventually I'll get her to at least try one of the other pod systems.
That seems like a rather slim application. I have a fuzzy recollection that the two PMTAs that have been approved, one for Snus and the other of IQOS, were more like a million pages each?"Over 150,000 Pages of Documentation"
I like this part of that story
"The Trump administration also outlined plans in September to remove all flavored e-cigarettes from store shelves, pointing the finger at sweet flavors that had drawn millions of children into nicotine addiction."
I had no idea millions were now nic fiends.
It's just such a Ridiculous, Backwards, Draconian PMTA Process, who Know what is Enough? And what is Too Much?
The Whole thing is a Big Joke. And when a Vaper thinks of a "Moving Target", or a "Bar of Unknown Height to Jump Over", they probably think of the FDA PMTA Guidance.
And to make this Some Shakespearean Comedy of Errors, I can Sell "Vape Pens" with THC in them with almost No Approval needed.
But if I switch the THC with Nicotine, I have to have a Medium Sized Army of Researchers, Clinic Administrators, Lawyers, and FDA Compliance Officers.
And a Bank Account with a Couple Hundred Grand in it.
When it comes to appeasing the bureaucracy with documentation, too much is just enough.
About a year out of college, my wife was working for a huge paper company (Champion) at their HQ when they decided that they wanted to merge with another huge paper company (St. Regis). I don't recall which regulatory agency it was that demanded a bunch of documentation, but my wife was involved in preparing it. They sent it. A convoy of three 53' trailers filled with banker's boxes full of photocopied documents were dispatched from Stamford CT to Washington DC. The merger was approved not long thereafter.
The count is probably not an exaggeration. The rest is b.s. since it would be the same for tobacco flavors.
Here is what the WSJ say's Reynolds has done...
"The submission by Reynolds, the U.S. business unit of British American Tobacco PLC, covers a group of products in its Vuse Solo line of e-cigarettes, including several different flavors, company executives said. The Solo refill pods come in flavors such as melon, chai, mint and berry.
The company plans additional applications over the next several months. Reynolds has three other Vuse product lines including Alto, a rectangular vaporizer which the company is promoting as a competitor to market leader Juul."
Reynolds Files for FDA Review of Vuse E-Cigarettes
Also of note was their mention of NJOY.
"The submission by Reynolds, the U.S. business unit of British American Tobacco PLC, covers a group of products in its Vuse Solo line of e-cigarettes, including several different flavors, company executives said. The Solo refill pods come in flavors such as melon, chai, mint and berry.
The company plans additional applications over the next several months. Reynolds has three other Vuse product lines including Alto, a rectangular vaporizer which the company is promoting as a competitor to market leader Juul."
Reynolds Files for FDA Review of Vuse E-Cigarettes
Also of note was their mention of NJOY.
That cig sized thing makes me even more convinced that they're going after the combustible cigs real soon now.
...and the ones that aren’t already regulated are the ones doing all the damage the regulated ones are being blamed for it while the people doing the blaming pretends the regulation doesn’t already exist. It’s infuriating.It's just such a Ridiculous, Backwards, Draconian PMTA Process, who Know what is Enough? And what is Too Much?
The Whole thing is a Big Joke. And when a Vaper thinks of a "Moving Target", or a "Bar of Unknown Height to Jump Over", they probably think of the FDA PMTA Guidance.
And to make this Some Shakespearean Comedy of Errors, I can Sell "Vape Pens" with THC in them with almost No Approval needed.
But if I switch the THC with Nicotine, I have to have a Medium Sized Army of Researchers, Clinic Administrators, Lawyers, and FDA Compliance Officers.
And a Bank Account with a Couple Hundred Grand in it.
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What's ironic to me is kids can't be attracted by flavors or nicotine if they've never experienced them. What attracts them is the visible vapor. Take that away and nobody is attracted to smoking or vaping. Tobacco sales are $800- one trillion a year world wide and governments take a very large share of the money. The business is not going to die quietly.
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