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Need help from former MFS (MyFreedomSmokes) customers
Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?
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I want to answer this question, and apologize if it offends anyone, because it does lead to another sellers name.
Post #68 on this page shows that someone did do that test. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...7-boxelder-nic-feels-wayyyy-too-strong-7.html
And wow,although I shouldn't be surprised as Randy has great customer service,but I already received my nic I ordered when the special started.
As always Randy, Great job!!!
Kevin
As always Randy, Great job!!!
Kevin
Although I haven't many posts, I did try ecigs a couple of years ago and have come back in the last few months. I have to say that RTSVapes has very much contributed to my success this time around. I have only ordered twice and I am very grateful for the service and product that is being provided to me by this company. I can't fault the product. I've read every single post regarding the company and have gained enough info to trust the product and the supplier. That's just my opinion and everyone needs to do their own research, after all, it's your health at stake.
Holy crap! I placed my order around 9:15 last night and got my tracking number around 11pm! Thanks Randy!
Announcement:
Today we learned of alleged discrepancies in a competitor's stated nicotine mg strength and tests made by a couple customers of their product using a homemade test sold on E-bay which uses .12N Sulfuric Acid, Bromothymol Blue and Distilled Water. The results of the test allegedly showed our competitor's nicotine to be more than twice as strong as advertised. The serious concern raised by many members of ECF and ECF management is the extreme health danger to the user.
Read the ECF thread here
Our Two Cents:
1) We do not dispute the health danger.
2) We have no idea if this is true
3) We think this home test is inaccurate because it requires the user to judge how many drops of acid are required to obtain a yellow color and the test volume of e-liquid is only 1 ml.
4) This would NEVER happen at RTS Vapes because we have a procedure in place with several safeguards including 2 officers of the company present when diluting 998 mg pure nicotine with signature sheets. Plus our minimum size PG or VG base before adding pure liquid nicotine is 7,500 ml.
5) There are a heck of a lot more issues to worry about when buying liquid nicotine than the strength of the nicotine. Any company can easily guarantee PLUS or minus 5% on MG strength even if they are hand mixing. You need to worry about ARSENIC, ACID and IMPURITY LEVELS.
RTS Vapes Nicotine MG Strength Accuracy:
1) Our pure liquid nicotine is extracted in 50 to 60 liter batches.
2) Every batch is tested for nicotine strength.
3) Every second or third batch has a full chemical analysis. (See attached PDF)
4) Once we know the strength of the pure nicotine it is simply a matter of how many ml we add to a 7,500 ml dilution batch to attain 3.6%, 4.8%, 6% or 10% nicotine. All our pure nicotine falls in the strength range of 99.70% (997.0 mg) to 99.92% (999.2 mg). If you do the math we cannot be off more than a few %.
5) Our liquid nicotine is within plus or minus 2.5% of stated strength.
Thank you for all the support.
Today we learned of alleged discrepancies in a competitor's stated nicotine mg strength and tests made by a couple customers of their product using a homemade test sold on E-bay which uses .12N Sulfuric Acid, Bromothymol Blue and Distilled Water. The results of the test allegedly showed our competitor's nicotine to be more than twice as strong as advertised. The serious concern raised by many members of ECF and ECF management is the extreme health danger to the user.
Read the ECF thread here
Our Two Cents:
1) We do not dispute the health danger.
2) We have no idea if this is true
3) We think this home test is inaccurate because it requires the user to judge how many drops of acid are required to obtain a yellow color and the test volume of e-liquid is only 1 ml.
4) This would NEVER happen at RTS Vapes because we have a procedure in place with several safeguards including 2 officers of the company present when diluting 998 mg pure nicotine with signature sheets. Plus our minimum size PG or VG base before adding pure liquid nicotine is 7,500 ml.
5) There are a heck of a lot more issues to worry about when buying liquid nicotine than the strength of the nicotine. Any company can easily guarantee PLUS or minus 5% on MG strength even if they are hand mixing. You need to worry about ARSENIC, ACID and IMPURITY LEVELS.
RTS Vapes Nicotine MG Strength Accuracy:
1) Our pure liquid nicotine is extracted in 50 to 60 liter batches.
2) Every batch is tested for nicotine strength.
3) Every second or third batch has a full chemical analysis. (See attached PDF)
4) Once we know the strength of the pure nicotine it is simply a matter of how many ml we add to a 7,500 ml dilution batch to attain 3.6%, 4.8%, 6% or 10% nicotine. All our pure nicotine falls in the strength range of 99.70% (997.0 mg) to 99.92% (999.2 mg). If you do the math we cannot be off more than a few %.
5) Our liquid nicotine is within plus or minus 2.5% of stated strength.
Thank you for all the support.
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Thanks Randy for the above info, another reason I'm gaining respect for RTS. How many other vendors out there could you get this info, warnings, so easily and freely. Keep doing what you are doing RTS. 
Thanks for all the replies so far on this topic, I think it's an important one to consider for anyone vaping, especially if you are DIYing your own liquids. I did see the thread that randyith had mentioned which stated that one of their competitors sold a nicotine liquid that tested far above what it was labeled to be.
This is one of the sources that prompted me to buy a testing kit for myself, and of course do some research and ask some questions. Consistency is important to me when it comes to vaping, with everything from the PV itself, cartomizers, batteries, but particularly with E-liquid. This is the aspect of vaping that if it's done wrong it can actually hurt you.
I'll make a purchase at RTS hopefully within the next few days before the sale ends. Im just crossing my fingers that the items I want will stay in stock with this big sale going on.
I don't know if this is an appropriate forum but I could test the 100mg RTS PG base liquid I plan to get and post the results here if there is any interest.
Of course Id post my method of testing as well, and Id point out that small differences in results do not point to a bad liquid. I actually expect anywhere from a 1 to 10 percent margin of error based on the small sample sizes I'll be testing, and the fact that I don't have professional equipment.
However this method will give a ball park figure and send up a red flag if the liquid is way off in terms of NIC content. If for example the 100mg liquid tested lower than 80mg or higher than 120, that's when Id be concerned.
Ive read up on most of the steps I need to take to make the test more accurate, shaking the bottle containing the nicotine, and extracting from the center seems to be one of the most important things you can do. having the nicotine evenly distributed seems like it will improve test results. I'll follow all other steps thoroughly and run a pretest on another liquid so that I have a better understanding of the process.
As a side note I can say this about RTS, I haven't tried their liquids yet but they have great deals on Nicotine, Ive been to over a half dozen sites and price wise this site is more than competitive. I've actually seen 100mg bottles of nicotine being sold at about twice the price of RTS.
This is one of the sources that prompted me to buy a testing kit for myself, and of course do some research and ask some questions. Consistency is important to me when it comes to vaping, with everything from the PV itself, cartomizers, batteries, but particularly with E-liquid. This is the aspect of vaping that if it's done wrong it can actually hurt you.
I'll make a purchase at RTS hopefully within the next few days before the sale ends. Im just crossing my fingers that the items I want will stay in stock with this big sale going on.
I don't know if this is an appropriate forum but I could test the 100mg RTS PG base liquid I plan to get and post the results here if there is any interest.
Of course Id post my method of testing as well, and Id point out that small differences in results do not point to a bad liquid. I actually expect anywhere from a 1 to 10 percent margin of error based on the small sample sizes I'll be testing, and the fact that I don't have professional equipment.
However this method will give a ball park figure and send up a red flag if the liquid is way off in terms of NIC content. If for example the 100mg liquid tested lower than 80mg or higher than 120, that's when Id be concerned.
Ive read up on most of the steps I need to take to make the test more accurate, shaking the bottle containing the nicotine, and extracting from the center seems to be one of the most important things you can do. having the nicotine evenly distributed seems like it will improve test results. I'll follow all other steps thoroughly and run a pretest on another liquid so that I have a better understanding of the process.
As a side note I can say this about RTS, I haven't tried their liquids yet but they have great deals on Nicotine, Ive been to over a half dozen sites and price wise this site is more than competitive. I've actually seen 100mg bottles of nicotine being sold at about twice the price of RTS.
Without professional equipment, I would not trust your nic. levels. I do in fact trust Randy's reading as he has professional equipment....Thanks for all the replies so far on this topic, I think it's an important one to consider for anyone vaping, especially if you are DIYing your own liquids. I did see the thread that randyith had mentioned which stated that one of their competitors sold a nicotine liquid that tested far above what it was labeled to be.
This is one of the sources that prompted me to buy a testing kit for myself, and of course do some research and ask some questions. Consistency is important to me when it comes to vaping, with everything from the PV itself, cartomizers, batteries, but particularly with E-liquid. This is the aspect of vaping that if it's done wrong it can actually hurt you.
I'll make a purchase at RTS hopefully within the next few days before the sale ends. Im just crossing my fingers that the items I want will stay in stock with this big sale going on.
I don't know if this is an appropriate forum but I could test the 100mg RTS PG base liquid I plan to get and post the results here if there is any interest.
Of course Id post my method of testing as well, and Id point out that small differences in results do not point to a bad liquid. I actually expect anywhere from a 1 to 10 percent margin of error based on the small sample sizes I'll be testing, and the fact that I don't have professional equipment.
However this method will give a ball park figure and send up a red flag if the liquid is way off in terms of NIC content. If for example the 100mg liquid tested lower than 80mg or higher than 120, that's when Id be concerned.
Ive read up on most of the steps I need to take to make the test more accurate, shaking the bottle containing the nicotine, and extracting from the center seems to be one of the most important things you can do. having the nicotine evenly distributed seems like it will improve test results. I'll follow all other steps thoroughly and run a pretest on another liquid so that I have a better understanding of the process.
As a side note I can say this about RTS, I haven't tried their liquids yet but they have great deals on Nicotine, Ive been to over a half dozen sites and price wise this site is more than competitive. I've actually seen 100mg bottles of nicotine being sold at about twice the price of RTS.
Without professional equipment, I would not trust your nic. levels. I do in fact trust Randy's reading as he has professional equipment....
Well despite not being the same equipment you'd use for large scale testing, from what Im reading it should be accurate enough to let me know what the nicotine content is, give or take a few percent. There may be a small margin of error which I mentioned before, but what Im looking for with this test is if liquids I use are 10% or more higher or lower than their stated MG levels.
I'm going to be as thorough as I can be, for my own sake, so if the test gives me a very bad result im going to be concerned. As far as what Randy said, I'm very glad they go through that kind of effort to test their liquids, it makes me even more willing to give them a try, and like I said before I haven't heard anything particularly negative about RTS, so I heard nothing about RTS liquids that prompted me to test their liquids in other words.
However I have heard about various vendors not getting it right in terms of mixing or labeling, that being the case I'll probably end up testing every bottle of nicotine base I get from any distributor before I even think about mixing it. Just as a safety precaution, but I understand if you wouldn't trust an unknown posting nic test results. On the other had at times some of the best and most honest reviews come from customers.
Stop and Post In The Negative Supplier's Review Thread:
First off, you are not even a customer of mine. Second off, I have no idea of your qualifications, equipment or methodology. Third off, please post your homemade test results to the negative suppliers review thread and do not post them on my registered supplier's thread. (See forum rules) I will make sure they are enforced!
Excuse my attitude, but I even questioned and frankly stated the homemade test bought on E-bay that was used to test my competitor's liquid nicotine had no merit. Rush a sample of his liquid off to an laboratory and pay $2,000 or more before destroying my competitor's reputation. That is what a real independent test costs.
I have learned here on my thread how to recognize the set-up for a sucker punch and the lightly greased dagger to my side. Just read this thread from start to finish.
The manner in how you entered my thread, without even being a customer, believes me to believe you have an agenda.
Is there a new liquid nicotine supplier about to launch and this is the front end publicity?
Any home test that only tests 1 ml of liquid nicotine using another homemade test kit bought from E-bay with homemade .12N Sulfuric Acid and Bromothymol Blue is a freeken joke. Our subcontracted laboratories require 100 ml minimum using gas-chromatographic determination.
Have a nice day and lay your review where it belongs.
Whoosh....well, that's a blast! I don't need nic now, but I will be here after this first of the year. Please have a great sale then, and don't let the buggers get you down!!! I would buy now, but I am moving and that messes up alot! Hang in there, lots of us appreciate your devotion to bringing us good nic!
Randy, I have a question. I'm still using the nic from my last order and I just ordered 500 ml so I'm quite stocked up for now. What is the best way to store nic liquid to keep it fresh? I've heard some say freeze it and others say store in the frig. What is your recommendation? Thanks!
If I were setting you up or had an agenda, why would I ASK ahead of time if this was the appropriate forum for posting that information? Also yes your right, im not a customer yet but I plan to be which is why I thought this was a good place to get some info. Remember I entered this forum asking if anyone else had done the test on RTS liquids. Im here for research and my best interest, not to smear a website for no reason.
BTW, Is this forum intended to be for customers of RTS only? I wouldn't be that paranoid about potential customers, because frankly that is how your going to expand. In fact the only thing Ive personally said about RTS vapes in this forum is that the prices were very good. Thats the only opinion Ive delivered because it's the only thing I know for sure about RTS having not bought from the site yet. So I havent made any comments about RTS products that were unfair.
Thanks for the bold text though, when the results of the test I run turn out to be very good, which I expect them to be, I'll just keep the results to myself. I thought it would help to have a soon to be customers opinion on this, but I guess I was wrong. Thankfully your opinion wont steer me away from being willing to try your site, and I think the products will speak for themselves.
Hi Lyndagayle,
I believe Kurt the chemist here on ECF most likely has the best procedure for storing nicotine long term. Frankly, he has more experience than I.
My experience only has 4 months of test results. However, the answer is with out a doubt to freeze it. Plastic or glass jar or small bottles verse big bottles with little oxygen mean less than freezing it ASAP. You cannot freeze it too cold. We freeze at minus 5 degrees F. Our laboratory recommends freezing it with liquid nitrogen like minus 140 degrees C.
I believe Kurt the chemist here on ECF most likely has the best procedure for storing nicotine long term. Frankly, he has more experience than I.
My experience only has 4 months of test results. However, the answer is with out a doubt to freeze it. Plastic or glass jar or small bottles verse big bottles with little oxygen mean less than freezing it ASAP. You cannot freeze it too cold. We freeze at minus 5 degrees F. Our laboratory recommends freezing it with liquid nitrogen like minus 140 degrees C.
If I were setting you up or had an agenda, why would I ASK ahead of time if this was the appropriate forum for posting that information? Also yes your right, im not a customer yet but I plan to be which is why I thought this was a good place to get some info. Remember I entered this forum asking if anyone else had done the test on RTS liquids. Im here for research and my best interest, not to smear a website for no reason.
BTW, Is this forum intended to be for customers of RTS only? I wouldn't be that paranoid about potential customers, because frankly that is how your going to expand. In fact the only thing Ive personally said about RTS vapes in this forum is that the prices were very good. Thats the only opinion Ive delivered because it's the only thing I know for sure about RTS having not bought from the site yet. So I havent made any comments about RTS products that were unfair.
Thanks for the bold text though, when the results of the test I run turn out to be very good, which I expect them to be, I'll just keep the results to myself. I thought it would help to have a soon to be customers opinion on this, but I guess I was wrong. Thankfully your opinion wont steer me away from being willing to try your site, and I think the products will speak for themselves.
Dude, you bought a $16 homemade test kit and post to a registered supplier's thread you are going to post reviews and tests on this thread. No this is not the place to post reviews which you have not done yet.
Just as you are suspicious of me I am suspicious of you. Please buy your liquid nicotine elsewhere.
I want a real chemist to test our nicotine like Kurt.
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i use glass bottles to freeze mine. the canning jars that you can use for freezing work well. they have small 4 0z sizes. i fill it pretty full so it doesn't have any room for air and then double bag before putting in the freezer. there is no food in the freezer now, just a bunch of nic
I didn't say I was going to do that, I asked.
I asked if there was any interest in it for starters, and I also asked if this was the appropriate place to post test results. All very respectfuly.
You jumped on this as if Im preparing to thrash RTS vapes intentionally. I did point out that the test results from the kit Im getting wouldn't be 100% accurate, but they will give a close enough number to tell if the liquids are close to where they should be. That's besides the point, I came here primarily to see what the opinions were of the customers and to see what they think of RTS liquids. I did the same thing before I bought my PV from Madvapes, and today Im a happy customer.
Bottom line is, I wouldn't be in this forum if I didn't intend on being a customer of RTS, and hopefully a long time customer, but I like to do the research and be thorough beforehand So I wouldn't worry about little ol me. Also I wont post the test results here.
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Look you could be legit. I been flamed to often. Just Goggle RTS Vapes and the second, third and forth postings are all 100 post threads on other forums of how a rotten liar and con artist I am with Google satellite pictures of my properties in Pennsylvania and North Carolina. All their accusations are months old and every day we are in business shows they spoke out their rear end. But all their lies are there for my bank's loan officer to review and use to turn me down for a small business loan. And much more you probably do not care about.
So when you stumble and fall on my thread asking my customers instead of me questions I have suspicions because I have had my character wrongfully assassinated in the past. If you want reviews, go to my website. Our software, Volusion, does not let us edit or delete so you get negative reviews as well as positive.
So when you stumble and fall on my thread asking my customers instead of me questions I have suspicions because I have had my character wrongfully assassinated in the past. If you want reviews, go to my website. Our software, Volusion, does not let us edit or delete so you get negative reviews as well as positive.
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