He's the guy who yells at kids playing with sparklers on 4th of July because of the city bans on fireworks.
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He's the guy who yells at kids playing with sparklers on 4th of July because of the city bans on fireworks.
Wow!. I have never seen anyone else actually vaping at the same time as me and in the same place except in a vape shop. Ya just don't see it much down here. I have heard it said that North Carolina was "tobacco country" and this may explain some of it.
I was at a shopping mall with my wife. I was vaping while waiting for my wife who was in the washroom. This old codger came up to me and told me to not to smoke. I told him to mind his own business and to bugger off.
Sheesh I'd tell the guy to keep that big fat hole in his face shut because you can see daylight glowing out of both his ear'oles.
Not to be a stick-in-the-mud but I think a lot of people here forget that not everyone in the world knows about e-cigs. Seriously, if I weren't a vaper myself, I wouldn't know about them either. I've never seen another vaper 'in the wild'.
A year ago, if I'd seen someone blowing out (what looks like) clouds of 'smoke', I would have assumed cigarettes too. And if that were the case, the person had the perfect right to remind you that (what he thought was) smoking was not allowed.
A year ago, if I'd seen someone blowing out (what looks like) clouds of 'smoke', I would have assumed cigarettes too. And if that were the case, the person had the perfect right to remind you that (what he thought was) smoking was not allowed.
Good for the original poster... See my sig below.
Second, you're outside watching motorized vehicles, the exaust is far worse than cigarette smoke. Hell, that brown haze obscuring the view is not cigarette smoke, its smog created by internal combustion engines, sometimes so bad the local news issues a air quality warning. If told that I'm not smoking, I'm vaping is not good enough, then thats your problem, not mine.
Third, the self-rightous zealots will never pass up an opportunity to impose their beliefs upon you.
Lastly, see my signature below. You can think a lot of things about my post or stance, that is ok, but don't think I will be treated as a second class citizen anymore. I'm a grown man who has supported myself my whole adult life, when I am out in public and following the rules and whatever I'm doing bothers you, then you leave.
Second, you're outside watching motorized vehicles, the exaust is far worse than cigarette smoke. Hell, that brown haze obscuring the view is not cigarette smoke, its smog created by internal combustion engines, sometimes so bad the local news issues a air quality warning. If told that I'm not smoking, I'm vaping is not good enough, then thats your problem, not mine.
Third, the self-rightous zealots will never pass up an opportunity to impose their beliefs upon you.
Lastly, see my signature below. You can think a lot of things about my post or stance, that is ok, but don't think I will be treated as a second class citizen anymore. I'm a grown man who has supported myself my whole adult life, when I am out in public and following the rules and whatever I'm doing bothers you, then you leave.
I always try to educate if I'm approached in public. Generally, I don't vape in public. While vaping isn't smoking there has to be an educational curve, if you will. Most people see you vaping and the knee jerk reaction is smoking.
I agree with telling someone it's not smoke and showing them what you're using as well as what's in your tank. I disagree with the attitude.
I agree that the person was being pushy, but the cavalier response didn't help either.
I'm disturbed by quite a few of the responses that I read in this thread. In my not so humble opinion, vaping is better than smoking therefore we need to be better in our attitudes towards the ignorant and uniformed. Don't get me wrong, I have been confronted by people who want nothing more than to start an argument and have no interest in why vaping is different than smoking. To those people I generally issue a not so nice "move along". But for those who genuinely don't know what vaping is I try to make exeptions for and explain.
It doesn't help our cause if we're just as belligerent as those looking to ban smoking everywhere.
Just my
I agree with telling someone it's not smoke and showing them what you're using as well as what's in your tank. I disagree with the attitude.
I agree that the person was being pushy, but the cavalier response didn't help either.
I'm disturbed by quite a few of the responses that I read in this thread. In my not so humble opinion, vaping is better than smoking therefore we need to be better in our attitudes towards the ignorant and uniformed. Don't get me wrong, I have been confronted by people who want nothing more than to start an argument and have no interest in why vaping is different than smoking. To those people I generally issue a not so nice "move along". But for those who genuinely don't know what vaping is I try to make exeptions for and explain.
It doesn't help our cause if we're just as belligerent as those looking to ban smoking everywhere.
Just my
"cavalier response" i didnt really have a chance to respond or explain. if he would have said "if it isnt smoking what is it?" i would have gladly explained it. he is the one that walked away shaking his head, with the "I will never learn" attitude. really i thought it would have been very positive for him to mind his own buisness but i didnt say that to him.
I agree ad356. This creature did not WANT to be educated or nay-sayed, and that is the difference. Most people where I live know what vaping is, primarily because a lot more Asians are still smoking cigarettes and we have a large presence in the state with Volcano e-cigs. I have only once been broached, and told them it was my quit-stick and those folk were very encouraging (also they couldn't smell any cigarette smoke).
According to his post his response is its not smoking. That's it
If I didn't know about vaping (and I probably would not if I was not looking for ways to quit smoking)
Then I would have just thought he was wising off
what else would someone who does not understand vaping think
in the time i have been vaping i have NEVER been accused of smoking, and i vape fairly openly. I think a couple of times i have been in a store, took a quick vape and someone questionly asked if i was smoking. I then told them a bit about vaping. Around here, or maybe around me people tend to be more curious and less angry...
maybe because I am female, or the tattoos... idk
maybe because I am female, or the tattoos... idk
Hmm, tough call.
I would have taken the time to say "Oh I'm not smoking, this is a (personal) vaporizer", then turn away.
We're all going to go through this, as people learn of this technology. I'd rather be on the side that's going to promote the new idea, rather than leave people in the dark.
But hey, that's just my choice.
You really ought to take a moment and put yourself in the other person's shoes; you go to a public event that you expect to be smoke free (and maybe you have a particular sensitivity to cigarettes, or a personal/family story involving cigarettes), you get there, and half a dozen "jokers" are smoking away, as if they didn't have a care in the world. What do you do? Call security? Ask them to stop? A reasonable approach would be to ask the person directly but politely, then call security, no?
Whatever happened to the true PC days when the events had designated areas and everybody's money was appreciated and tallied. Where it was rude to force my ideals on others. I feel sorry for people who don't have intelligence enough to take one step over to get out of my personal space . And i super feel sorry for idiots who can't smell the difference between fog and stinkie horrible smoke.
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I usually handle their advances with two questions, depending on who is asking.
I'm not smoking, I'm using a vaporizer.
1) Do you smell cigarette smoke? (depending on proximity)
2) Does this look like a cigarette? (shows mod)
My work recently banned e-cigarettes, but luckily I don't work around anyone that cares, as there are a few vapers in the area. The safety guy quotes the Mayo Clinic "findings". I've sent him the Drexel report (catchy name). He hasn't responded.
I'm not smoking, I'm using a vaporizer.
1) Do you smell cigarette smoke? (depending on proximity)
2) Does this look like a cigarette? (shows mod)
My work recently banned e-cigarettes, but luckily I don't work around anyone that cares, as there are a few vapers in the area. The safety guy quotes the Mayo Clinic "findings". I've sent him the Drexel report (catchy name). He hasn't responded.
bolding mine...
In your original post, you said...
someone from the crowd approached me (he was not an EAA official) and told me i cannot "smoke" here. i told him i am not smoking and to beat it... ie get lost. when he left and turned his back i continued right on vaping.
If someone had told me to 'beat it', I wouldn't have hung around asking questions either.
In your original post, you said...
someone from the crowd approached me (he was not an EAA official) and told me i cannot "smoke" here. i told him i am not smoking and to beat it... ie get lost. when he left and turned his back i continued right on vaping.
If someone had told me to 'beat it', I wouldn't have hung around asking questions either.
Do the ICAO and FAA rules allow smoking or vaping where you were standing?
You don't respect the rules of the place you're at---- yet you feel you deserve to be respected?
Seems hypocritical.
Sorry, no tears for you.
What gives anyone the right to police anyone else? They don't have that right.
I would have told them to get lost too. Unless it was an employee of the event,
no one has the authority to say anything to another patron, and they could find trouble
easily for butting their nose in. I wish people would just mind their own business, this
whole country would be so much better off.
I would have told them to get lost too. Unless it was an employee of the event,
no one has the authority to say anything to another patron, and they could find trouble
easily for butting their nose in. I wish people would just mind their own business, this
whole country would be so much better off.
Its plain and simple. As far as vaping is concerned we will never get anywhere without public support. To someone who has no knowledge about vaping. The assumption to them, it is smoking or worse. Most people I come across assume my PV is something illegal. So far, I have been allowed to explain what it is because of the setting that the conversation has taken place.
Really?
If more people thought that way, those women and children in Ariel Castro's house in Cleveland would still be living in captivity.
You know, all those neighbors were intent on minding their own business and all.
I guess I don't get the over-intensive "need for privacy" that some people seem to have.
Growin up in the 50s, if I was roller skating too fast, the neighbor would call my Mom. this is PRECISELY what kept neighborhoods safe for kids to play in.......and the kids safe. the neighbors actually CARED if I broke my neck, or broke somebody elses.
People were not selfishly "minding their own business" and I think this concept has gone WAY too far and hasn't made anything better at all....it's made everything much much worse. YOur children arent' even safe to walk home from school or play outside, cuz everhyone is busy "minding their own business".
I have no problem making a citizen's arrest if I ever have to. Hopefully I never have to do that, although I did call the sheriiff on 911 when I saw a car swerving a lot the other day...... Was kinda worried they were drunk and might kill somebody after they drove by me. I would have felt pretty bad about that so I did call and give the sheriff a heads up.
It has always been my idea that people who are OVERLY intent of closed curtains and privacy might actually have something to hide. I am a law abiding citizen and for 60 years thus far, have really never felt that my privacy was overly challenged. Except when my credit card was hacked after buying ecig products....
It's sad the 50s and 60s will never return, and that is because everyone hides inside or in their high fenced backyards and people don't even seem to like each other anymore.
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I think it comes from dealing with nut-jobs and busy bodies and the nanny state we live in so much. Example: In the month of Feb with snow on the ground, I ran movie rentals into the store where I wanted a receipt. My two dogs, who live in the country, get excited every time we go to town. When dogs get excited, they pant. A nanny-state type didn't know the difference between an excited dog and a hot one and didn't think about the coat weather temperature or touch the window or roof to check if the car was hot and, so, was calling the sheriff as I approached my car. This is a small strip mall with four stores... smoke shop, sub shop, video and take out pizza shop... wouldn't have been hard to inquire. But, alas, I had to wait for the sheriff and explained I wasn't in the store more than 5 minutes but I was issued a warning because they were called (policy) and told 3 of those and they take the dogs. I couldn't be given a ticket because the temp in the car didn't exceed 70 degrees. There's a difference between ANTZ, nut jobs, nanny-staters or busy-bodies and truly concerned folks. Too many have had unfortunate experiences with all of the former. Our dogs now stay home instead of doing one of the things they love most with is going with us for a ride. They really do miss us as well as a fun ride. As for the nanny-state, how many homes exceed 70 degrees? Yeh, I'm one of the "stay out of my business" types precisely because of the crazies who think my business is somehow there's.
Edit: sorry if I went too far OT but this is a good example of that "nazi" mentality... just not with vaping... but the same.... they're eeeeverywhere.
Edit: sorry if I went too far OT but this is a good example of that "nazi" mentality... just not with vaping... but the same.... they're eeeeverywhere.
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