Strange Naz, coz my people tell me you need the PG to carry the nicotine, they also say it is impossible to create lesser visible vapor....
Now I recon you could have many sorts of liquid based on other then PG, but my people have been working on this for years and tell me PG is the way to go... notwithstanding that other liquid formula's could be possible, but there's just too many implications like clogging of atomizers if you base your liquid on other than PG...
Anywy, the confusion was, I thought you wanted to refill the RUYAN VEGAS CIGAR, which Leaford talked about in his video...
According to KnutselPeter is is very difficult. Ruyan really manufactured the Vegas to trow away...
According to Ruyan, the vapor in their cigars is absorbed in the mouth due to PH balancing of their liquid soemhow- the PG is still used, but hte formula is different form other liquids inthat when inhaled, nothign or very little comes out when exhaled, but if you just puff and exhale without inhaling, you get a nice decent cloud of vapor- so the choice is yours on which you want to see- vapor or no vapor, so it can't be impossible to create- Ruyan is doing it. As well, in my home brews, I've varied the amount of PG and Glycerin, and was able to get liquids that when held in lungs, nothign came out- with hte straight PG you had to hold in lungs longer- with more Glycering, yyou don't need to hold as long- But the key to the 'dissappearing vapor' I guess is in the PH balancing which I don'tknow how to do- I'm not sure if citric acid is used or what, but whatever Ruyan uses, it works very well for htose of us who like to be more discrete when vaping in home, but who also like the choice of havign clouds of vapor available if we so choose- we just don't unhale, and get hte clouds that way. I guess also that the nicotine is absorbed in mouth with the Cigar liquid too
If it's citric acid used to ph balance the vapor, if I can find some, I'll give it a try in some liquids I have and see what happens. I wouldn't htink the acid would gum up atomizers as it's more a cleanign agent (think of citric cleaning procucts),
No, I was talking abotu a liquid sold that could be used to refill anyhting- penstyles, minis, cigars, pipes etc. Just want a liquid where we can puff/exhale get clouds of vapor, or inhale and have it dissapear if we choose. Also, the taste of the Ruyan is a big issue too- one of hte best I've tasted really- weould be nice ot get soem bottled up for refillign instead of haviong to buy hte cartridges and squeeze the jucie from them.