Ruyan vegas cigar

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Nazareth

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Strange Naz, coz my people tell me you need the PG to carry the nicotine, they also say it is impossible to create lesser visible vapor....
Now I recon you could have many sorts of liquid based on other then PG, but my people have been working on this for years and tell me PG is the way to go... notwithstanding that other liquid formula's could be possible, but there's just too many implications like clogging of atomizers if you base your liquid on other than PG...


Anywy, the confusion was, I thought you wanted to refill the RUYAN VEGAS CIGAR, which Leaford talked about in his video...

According to KnutselPeter is is very difficult. Ruyan really manufactured the Vegas to trow away...

According to Ruyan, the vapor in their cigars is absorbed in the mouth due to PH balancing of their liquid soemhow- the PG is still used, but hte formula is different form other liquids inthat when inhaled, nothign or very little comes out when exhaled, but if you just puff and exhale without inhaling, you get a nice decent cloud of vapor- so the choice is yours on which you want to see- vapor or no vapor, so it can't be impossible to create- Ruyan is doing it. As well, in my home brews, I've varied the amount of PG and Glycerin, and was able to get liquids that when held in lungs, nothign came out- with hte straight PG you had to hold in lungs longer- with more Glycering, yyou don't need to hold as long- But the key to the 'dissappearing vapor' I guess is in the PH balancing which I don'tknow how to do- I'm not sure if citric acid is used or what, but whatever Ruyan uses, it works very well for htose of us who like to be more discrete when vaping in home, but who also like the choice of havign clouds of vapor available if we so choose- we just don't unhale, and get hte clouds that way. I guess also that the nicotine is absorbed in mouth with the Cigar liquid too

If it's citric acid used to ph balance the vapor, if I can find some, I'll give it a try in some liquids I have and see what happens. I wouldn't htink the acid would gum up atomizers as it's more a cleanign agent (think of citric cleaning procucts),

No, I was talking abotu a liquid sold that could be used to refill anyhting- penstyles, minis, cigars, pipes etc. Just want a liquid where we can puff/exhale get clouds of vapor, or inhale and have it dissapear if we choose. Also, the taste of the Ruyan is a big issue too- one of hte best I've tasted really- weould be nice ot get soem bottled up for refillign instead of haviong to buy hte cartridges and squeeze the jucie from them.
 

DeviLFisH

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3 to 5 days from China to UK? It takes 10 days from China to Singapore already, how then can it be 3 days to UK that's like DHL speed!

Normal post from China is 10 days minimum to Europe and you're not even sure if a. it arrives and b. when customs opens it you'll pay import taxes or a fine. That's what customers told me...

For the price: selling at 14GBP means we make NO profit :(

I'll look into a promo for the forum though...

:oops:sorry ludo from china to singapore take only 4 days fastest..not 10 days..
I ordered before genenic e cig before from wayne a china supplier.


I hope janty got janty asia to cater for asia janty users:)
it will be faster instead have to wait for one week + from holland to singapore.:(
 

trog100

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Why in the world not? Are they invisible? WHat I do know is you can see a heating coil easily enough. And if you pull one apart, that's what you'll see.

They can say "ultrasonic" all they want, but they also say a cartridge lasts as long as a pack, and we all know that's BS, too.

and i strongly suspect the "discrete" special liquid fits in the same B/S category leaford..

the fact ruyan pushes the discrete factor is connected to the original social smoking market (not kit he he) they aimed thier device at.. the rest is in peoples imagination i think..

having used a ruyan cigar and put the fluid in other devices i never noticed a lack of visible vapour on the exhale.. only in the sense the ruyan cigar i have dosnt produce much in the first place..

put some ruyan liquid in a device that does produce loads of vapour and there is plenty of it visible on the exhale.. smoked in a pipe it aint very discrete..

i have the cigar and i have the liquid.. i also dont have an over active imagination..

the emperors new suit factor is still alive and well..

trog
 

trog100

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Cant understand where you come from trog on that statement as the ruyan cigar juice produces the same results in my sedansa as it does in the bling!

She produces a vapour but nothing to little on exhale but i am here to discuss the issue not fight ;)

no fight.. but one thing i looked for very hard was the special ruyan liquid.. all i can say is.. i didnt find it.. we can only report what we find..

i did like the taste thow..

trog
 

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Fumador

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When I saw the vegas at the Janty USA site I was very happy thinking it would be cheaper than getting it from the Ruyan site , but $34 + $12 shipping + 6 paypal is basically the same.
I love the Vegas cigar ( I've had 4 so far), but it's still to expensive.
Is there anyway Janty will accept regular credit cards in the future ? And $12 shipping is too much.
 
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