RY4, RY8, Bobas Bounty, Swagger - ?

[Mr.Mann]

Thank you Mr Mann, this is an awesome thread, I think I have found a group that is "a kin" , sympatico, heck with the same tastes I have. I love the description and the similar reactions to the artificially flavored cig like taste juices out there. Face it most of us smoked pretty much the same "crappy" cigs (marl, cams, etc) not many actually smoked high quality cigarettes that werent pumped full of 4,000 ingredients of junk. There was nothing like a real 100% tobacco cig with a good filter. Im sure we all know there is nothing out there that is going to replicate crap with 4000 other ingredients. I think that the new to vaping still think we need that just as I did. WHat we need to do is get a juice that is high enough in nic , one that tastes clean and organic, natural to satisfy them. Once you learn to appreciate the actual taste of real tobacco leaves it is heaven.

You're welcome, though if you are thanking me for the thread, this is not mine--though I do have a few that are similar. FYI, the issues with cigarettes is about the combustion, that is where the chemicals come into play; there is no safe burning of tobacco without those thousands of chemicals. I used to smoke Nat Sherman Natural and American Spirits and both of those claim to not have additives, but there is more than enough chemicals in the burning of a cig to make additives seem moot. (The paper, at least in the AS, was eventually formulated to be "fire-safe", so I guess the claim was specifically in regard to the tobacco.) YOU ARE 100% CORRECT in the statement about learning to love the flavor of tobacco. I can honestly say now that the thought of a cigarette has ZERO to do with tobacco and, for me, all to do with misguided nostalgia!


Cheers, anavidfan.

 

[Mr.Mann]

.......I think I have found a group that is "a kin" , sympatico, heck with the same tastes I have.

I know what you mean! Akin, kin, kinship, kinsfolk, or kindred, it is great to know that there are people that you can cross reference and commiserate with. Luceblueboy helped usher me into this world and I owe so many more people a debt of gratitude for hearing my cries. Some of those people: luceblueboy, Optimo, Kemosabe, spaceballsrules, lasttango, Tezcatipoca, and jplanet. I have taken suggestions from all those members in some manner, and not once been disappointed like when I was flying blind.

[h=4][/h]

I was looking at heathers heavenly and their selection of tobaccos. I definately want to order Gandalf, but they have a few others that sound promising. There is the Dark Horse, dragon fire, Huntsman and the Pirates booty. Anyone ever try those? What did you like or dilike and why? Im hoping that maybe Heather has it tuned in as to what tobacco people like.

I can't exactly tell you why some work better for me, but I can say that it really depends on the day as to which ones do it for me. Most of the time, Huntsman and Gandalf are first, Pirate's Booty and Dragon's Fire are second, and Dark Horse is third on my most vaped list...but DH it is still the Dark Horse in the race. LOL

 

[anavidfan]

yes, I do get confused with all the other great tobacco lovers, I guess I focused on you because in many of my other post, you have taken the time to sort of directly answer my concerns. I do thank all of the above listed people you mentioned. THeir names do come up often when giving opinions of good tobacco related topics. Thank you all. So far Ive ordered a 60ml from vermillion and 30ml and they have been good to their rep. I just got some rawr and its steeping. I am definatly putting an order for a 60 ml of gandalf. I have a feeling im going to like this so to heck with sample size. I will probably get a 30 ml of huntsman and sample sizes of the other tobaccos just to try. I am also going to get some Highbrow orange to add to the tobacco as a change of pace. I also have a bottle of highbrows 100% vg clove and its POTENT. I add some occasionally to tobacco but even though I add a drop, it still starts to choke up my cartos.

 

[Mr.Mann]

yes, I do get confused with all the other great tobacco lovers, I guess I focused on you because in many of my other post, you have taken the time to sort of directly answer my concerns. I do thank all of the above listed people you mentioned. THeir names do come up often when giving opinions of good tobacco related topics. Thank you all. So far Ive ordered a 60ml from vermillion and 30ml and they have been good to their rep. I just got some rawr and its steeping. I am definatly putting an order for a 60 ml of gandalf. I have a feeling im going to like this so to heck with sample size. I will probably get a 30 ml of huntsman and sample sizes of the other tobaccos just to try. I am also going to get some Highbrow orange to add to the tobacco as a change of pace. I also have a bottle of highbrows 100% vg clove and its POTENT. I add some occasionally to tobacco but even though I add a drop, it still starts to choke up my cartos.

No problem at all. I am not a hardware enthusiast so I can barely help with that stuff (though I know those that can), but when I hear someone calling out in a language that I know, I must respond...well, most of the time. Feel free to shoot a pm my way if I ever happen to not see your posts.

p.s. I would suggest sticking with the recommended 70pg/30vg ratio that HHV recommends, though it is up to you and you must go with your gut...or mouth.

 

[CigFreedMike]

You might also want to consider halo's prime 15.

I tried bobas bounty because so many people love it, but to me, it tasted like plastic or rubber, whether I used it in a carto or an atomizer, so my bottle remains unused. Sorry boba lovers, everyone's tastes are different I guess.

 

[latnem]

So I received my Gandalf today after the recommendations of a few people here. Filled it into a fresh boge carto gave it a try. This is the first juice since bobas bounty that made me smile during the first exhale. Its pretty awesome. Its hard to describe the taste, I feel its almost a bit of a clove taste to it.....its really complex but I like it. After taking just one puff I already want to fill a tank with it. It does have a bit of a strong aftertaste but its not a bad flavor.........great suggestion guys thanks!

(I also got some halo tribeca and to me it taste like burnt golden grahams...not a big fan of it)

 

[jfoster1]

I do not particularly like bobo's or gorilla juice. Gandalf's was also a little sweet to me. Dragon fire taste very similar to Gandalf. I love the huntsmen, that is my favorite of the three. I will say I do feel they were all quality juices and looking around their prices are very competitive. They have good customer service. I will order from them again, planning to try more of their juices.
Gandalf to me though was something I did not recognize as any tobacco flavor. Think I taste different than anyone else. Oh, their peachy tobacco was really good I thought.

 

[Randy C]

I'm a huge fan of Mom & Pops and BWB, however M&P's RY4 will be too sweet, and BWB doesn't offer RY4 at this time.

An interesting RY4 alternative would be Highbrow's RY4. It is very, very good! It is semi-sweet, but not overly so. It's balanced out perfectly with a citrus flavor. Here is what I get out of it: It has a tremendous tobacco base, it is nutty (and for a lack of better terms-"earthy"),it has very little caramel undertones, and it has just a hint of coca and vanilla. But... the citrus flavor rules the formula! I wasn't convinced I would like it when I ordered it, but I have come to love this juice and it's in my normal rotation.
Bryan is a talented juice maker and will mix to your liking... I almost considered asking Bryan to make more of a "traditional" RY4 with my first order, because his citrus flavor I read about made me a bit nervous. After telling Bryan other juices/profiles that I liked, he suggested that I just try his standard RY4 formula, and that I should be pleased.

I think this may be a good fit for you. One word of caution- Highbrow's RY4 can be a carto killer; especially cartos with tight filler material- like Boge. It tends to do much better with Smoktec cartos.

By the way,,, did I tell you that I LOVE Mom & Pops? You might want to just give them a call to see if they can mix something special to your liking. Regardless of how you move forward, please stick with a quality vendor, or you'll spend thousands trying to find the perfect juice

 

[Wishdog]

A little OT, but has anyone tried Hope from Totally Wicked? I've never ordered from them but this description sounds interesting.

"This is a tobacco menthol mix, a mix of sandalwood and leather and menthol, niether one flavour over-powered by the other. Recommended concentration: 10-15% (2-3 drops per ml)"

 

[latnem]

A little OT, but has anyone tried Hope from Totally Wicked? I've never ordered from them but this description sounds interesting.

"This is a tobacco menthol mix, a mix of sandalwood and leather and menthol, niether one flavour over-powered by the other. Recommended concentration: 10-15% (2-3 drops per ml)"

That description does sound interesting, might have to add it to my "to do" list.

Also I wanted to post a quick follow-up regarding the Gandalf I got. It has great interesting flavors however I do have a slight issue with it. Out of all the juices I've tried (20+) this has by far the strongest and longest lasting aftertaste. Not sure if its just my whacky tastebuds or maybe the juice needs more time to steep but after a few puffs I have this lingering taste in my mouth that seems to get stronger and stronger. To the point where if I drink water it tastes like a clove(ish).

It sucks because other than that it would be simply perfect (imo). Has a great taste when you first exhale but I feel that most other aspects to it's flavor quickly disappear from the aftertaste, leaving one strong flavor.

 

[stv4SC]

I got the tobacco sampler from Mom and Pops. Actually like all of them. Favorites are RYO and Tobacco Haze.