Yikes - that's quite horrifying! Well, that definitely isn't an option (though it was a great idea before this was known - heh).
"Salty" Flavors/E-Liquids Possible?
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Yikes - that's quite horrifying! Well, that definitely isn't an option (though it was a great idea before this was known - heh).
Thanks for the heads up! I just wrote an e-mail to Wilton's to find out if their Clear Butter Flavor contains Diacetyl. I've only used it a few times so I don't think I'm in any danger as it takes people years of working in a factory breathing in these fumes to develop the disease, but I'll surely stop using it if their response indicates that it is the flavoring used. It would be unfortunate because it tastes REALLY good, but since it smells EXACTLY like buttered popcorn, I'm afraid that they're going to say yes. Bummer.
I'll report back when I get a response.
On a side note, it seems awful strange that the disease is found mainly in healthy, young, non-smokers. Is it because they're more likely to be working on the factory floor, perhaps?
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Try to get the word out on what you hear back from Wilton's, plus the general info on diacetyl for the DIYers. Apparently Pop Weaver switched to a different compound for their butter flavor but I haven't been able to track it down - it's just described as "safe but proprietary"
I wouldn't worry about that too much. I use saline spray for my dried out sinuses all the time, and they'll inject it into your veins in a hospital. The amount of salt would be very small besides, and it wouldn't vaporize anyway. I'm not sure you could even get a salty flavor that way because the salt wouldn't be carried by the vapor. The thing to do would be to flavor the cartridge itself somehow, then you'd get the salt flavor that way just by putting the cart in your mouth, when combined with the aroma of the vapor, you'd get the desired flavor... in theory anyway.
I can't see salt making it in a vape. VG and PG have a sweet taste naturally and vaporize to about zero rezidue. Menthol is the same way even though its a solid. It gases at somewhere in the low 100's degrees. Actual salt on the other hand does not and if added to a vape solution will crystalize on the atomizer. Salt is also very corrosive to metal. Nichrome is highly resistant to this though.
I'd be looking for a low temp safe addin that will vaporize at a temp below the average running temp of the atty bowl and produces a salty sensation to the nerves.
If it exists................just a few facts and some food for thoughts lol
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I'd be looking for a low temp safe addin that will vaporize at a temp below the average running temp of the atty bowl and produces a salty sensation to the nerves.
If it exists................just a few facts and some food for thoughts lol
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what about magnesium chloride? http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/m0156.htm
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It was not only people who worked there. There was a guy who ate 2 bags of popcorn every single night for years...he got it too. Thats just a little too close to vaping daily for me to try it!
Inhalation:
Inhalation of dust may cause mild irritation to the mucous membranes.
Ingestion:
Since magnesium salts are slowly absorbed, abdominal pain, vomiting and ........ may be the only symptoms. However, if elimination is blocked by bowel blockage or other reasons, CNS depression, lack of reflexes, hypocalcemia (deficiency of calcium in the blood) may occur.
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No adverse effects expected but may cause minor skin irritation.
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No thanks.
That's why I say salt the mouthpiece, and let the aroma from the flavoring do the rest. It'd work in a similar way as a salt-rimmed margarita.
Its called saline
That's not synthetic. Saline is just purified salt water.
Nice discussion... The "rimmed Margarita" idea is a cool one, Applejackson - that may very well work...
Other than that, not looking good for getting it in the actual vape...but maybe eventually someone will find a safe way to do it. =o)
Other than that, not looking good for getting it in the actual vape...but maybe eventually someone will find a safe way to do it. =o)
You could always try sodium acetate. It gives the salt & vinegar flavour to crisps ("potato chips" for Stateside readers,) and has a low enough boiling point to be effectively volatile in an ecig.
Don't know if it's safe to inhale, mind you.
Don't know if it's safe to inhale, mind you.
well, peanuts and pretzels work with beer, eat something salty or put few grains of salt on your tongue and vape away. LOL
I've noticed my e-liquids taste different immediately after taking a drink of pop or eating
I've noticed my e-liquids taste different immediately after taking a drink of pop or eating
I looked up sodium acetate and it shows a synonym of vinegar.
Vinegar is normaly listed as Acetic Acid. Odd...........it was a syn too.....
I like the idea of wetting the inside of the cart mouth peice and coat it with finely ground salt.
The moisture that forms from puffing allows you to touch your tounge to the mouth peice opening for a taste of salt. A quick hard 1st hit should give you a little salty taste most times.
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Vinegar is normaly listed as Acetic Acid. Odd...........it was a syn too.....
I like the idea of wetting the inside of the cart mouth peice and coat it with finely ground salt.
The moisture that forms from puffing allows you to touch your tounge to the mouth peice opening for a taste of salt. A quick hard 1st hit should give you a little salty taste most times.
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Hmmm,interesting idea with the moist/salt on the cart...Otherwise, I would think a lemon or lime flavor would be the best bet for simulating a saltiness. Providing you could find it lightly or non sweet ( my mother was not allowed salt and used lemon or lime) One of these used with a totally non sweet e-liquid such as Cubin Cigar-roasted chicken etc.. might get close...
About the possible Diacetyl being in a butter flavoring: Kate checked this out a while back..She wrote Loranns and asked if their butter flavor contained it..They said It did not... I can't speak for other brands..
About the possible Diacetyl being in a butter flavoring: Kate checked this out a while back..She wrote Loranns and asked if their butter flavor contained it..They said It did not... I can't speak for other brands..
thats a good idea. If it is a 510 you could remove that little cap and put a little salt in there.
This thread prompted me to do something, well, stupid. I dissolved a chicken bullion cube and mixed it with VG. N A S T Y !
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