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same vapor and battery life? dual round vs single clapton

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  1. vapesmooth123

    vapesmooth123 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 23, 2016
    I'm having a hard time deciding on new RTAs. I got my 'big' tank Ammit 25mm dual coil (dual clapton but may end up sometimes being dual round or something else depending on this thread), and now am trying to find a smaller tank.

    The smaller tank I want to be small in pocket (short height) with my single 18650 3000 mAh MOD, and also to hold decent ml. (no need to recommend in terms of that because I have spent countless hours narrowing down basically EVERYTHING and watching videos to find true caliper and syringe measurements vs the BS that manufacturers or fasttech often lie/misinform about).
    I'm okay with the small RTA not giving as much vapor as the larger RTA for my dual/triple MOD. But I would like a decent amount of vapor but don't want to kill battery fast. If I can get about 4-6ml per 3000 mAh, that should be fine though.

    Here's the thing,
    The few RTAs that I'm left deciding on for the small RTA, some are dual postless decks and some are single-only. I might prefer one that is a dual deck for having short height and good ml capacity but I'm thinking dual coil will kill battery fast. You can put a single in a dual postless and then keep the wicks long to fill the whole juicing channel (or close the juice flow controll a bit), but I'm not too sure about that. Maybe it doesn't even matter and that a single in a dual postless is perfect performance? But suppose it's not, my question is, can I make a dual round wire build and still get the same battery life and vapor as a single fused clapton build?

    To me, the more wire/metal you are trying to heat up, the more battery life you need, and I don't even know if that's correct but that's what I'm thinking. But the more wire you add, to me means the ohms raise up and thus need more Watts, however, when you make it dual coil, the ohms suddenly divide in half which is confusing.

    I don't really need to know why or how with ohms law explinations etc, but should I just get thin round wire and make dual coil (many wraps aka micro coil or not a lot of wraps?).
    Or should I just stick a single fused clapton in a dual postless deck?
    I vape a .12 premade TFV8 octa coil at around 60W, but I also vape a .45 dual fused clapton build at around the same. I don't really vape high wattage, and I passthrough vape probably 1/3 the time that I vape, and I use 3000 mAh 18650s, but I just want to make sure I'm not down on battery quickly.
    If it matters, I'm using kanthal for now but soon switchnig to TC, probably SS or whatever most people are using now.
    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. sonicbomb

    sonicbomb Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2015
    1187 Hunterwasser
  3. bombastinator

    bombastinator Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    I’ve found that I get better battery life from large diameter single coils than smaller diameter dual coils without a great deal of vapor loss. That is a subjective observation though. I haven’t measured anything.
     
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  4. Letitia

    Letitia Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Just my personal opinion, dual rtas work best in the dual configuration they were designed for. I don't think you would be disappointed if you went with a single coil rta for out and about.
     
  5. vapesmooth123

    vapesmooth123 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 23, 2016
    I think my main concerns are, the dual decks might be too air'y. As much as I thought I'd never care about that, I've found recently I am very particular with air flow. I can close off the air flow yes, but then so much air on the deck it might not be how it should.

    And also if I do power-saving thin round dual builds, I just would rather deal with one clapton coil instead, easier to build, and thin gauge round wire coils don't like being stuffed with cotton or anything, they can mess up and not glow evenly after you start messing with them with the cotton.

    Last thing is some of these dual decks have a raised up section in the center, if you put a single spanning over it, you have to raise it up a tad to not touch the center protrusion area. Meaning slightly more wicking time needed because the coil is raised. Albeit a very small difference, the more you raise the coil, the more it becomes a genesis style atomizer which is top coil. Can maybe also hit the top of the chimney and short out if have to raise the coil. I don't think this matters as much as the excessive air flow there's be with a single in a dual deck though.

    Overall, not really a big deal if I have to pick a single-only RTA. Only talking a difference of about 8mm taller (I want shorter) and maybe 1-2ml less capacity (I want short and a lot of ml capacity which is asking a lot but definitely possible, they just don't make it in single coil maybe, just dual).
     
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  6. Don29palms

    Don29palms Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2014
    joshua tree, ca
  7. vapesmooth123

    vapesmooth123 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 23, 2016
    Awesome, Don, it Has Juice flow control also which is pretty much a MUST for a tank for me... I have to nit pick the specs of ml capacity and compactness vs other RTAs but the single/dual option decks are great too. thanks
     
  8. Don29palms

    Don29palms Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2014
    joshua tree, ca
    It comes with 2ml and 6ml tank
     
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