Sapor by Wotofo or REMatty by REM Creations?

[undyingvape]

Hello again everyone,

I have a couple quick questions that I want to get your opinion/advice on.

First, I just finished watching a review by RiP Trippers on YouTube about the Sapor RDA by Wotofo, the guys that make pretty much every reasonably priced non clone RDA on the market. Is anyone currently using one? What are your thoughts about it? Easy to build on? etc... My local vape shop doesn't carry it yet.

Second, I have seen a couple reviews on the REMatty by REM Creations and my local shop has it for $50, of course I can get it online for $30 with free shipping but that is how it goes. Again, is anyone currently using one? What are your thoughts about it? Easy to build on? etc... An acquaintance at my local vape shop has one on the eVic VT I am planning on getting and he loves it, but he is newer then I on the vaping scene, going on 3 years here, so I take his advice with a grain of salt usually. Plus, he works for the "vaping man" so to speak, you know the one that gives us all shiny-itis. Anyways, I want to say thanks for the advice ahead of time.

 

[Katmar]

Bump for answer...

 

[Steelgirl]

Sapor ! It's great

 

[Hans Wermhat]

It looks just like every other RDA out there to me. Only difference is the AFC is at the top. It probably won't be a great flavor maker.

 

[edyle]

Sapor RDA

it's sapor.

 

[undyingvape]

thanks everyone for the nice words but I was looking for advice a little bit deeper than "its great" and

It looks just like every other RDA out there to me. Only difference is the AFC is at the top. It probably won't be a great flavor maker.

I wasn't asking for no brained tid bits but actual in depth answers and opinions about these two RDAs. Don't comment on my threads if you can only give me what these people gave me right above me, wasting my time.

This forum has over 200k members so logic would dictate that at least one person would have one or the other and could give me a reasonable answer.

 

[BennyAdeline]

It looks just like every other RDA out there to me. Only difference is the AFC is at the top. It probably won't be a great flavor maker.

It IS a great flavor maker

 

[BennyAdeline]

thanks everyone for the nice words but I was looking for advice a little bit deeper than "its great" and

I wasn't asking for no brained tid bits but actual in depth answers and opinions about these two RDAs. Don't comment on my threads if you can only give me what these people gave me right above me, wasting my time.

This forum has over 200k members so logic would dictate that at least one person would have one or the other and could give me a reasonable answer.

I can't compare the two, but I recommend the Sapor. Here's why:

1) Affordable
2) Looks nice and made very well. More "mature" in appearance
3) Airflow placement is awesome! A lot of top feed airflow attys can be blocked up by your lips...not the sapor!
4) Airflow is great and feels very fluid. I love it
5) Easy to build on.
6) Flavor is on point when built right.
7) Vapor production is hefty while maintaining said killer flavor.
8) Leak proof...as in NO leaking

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Sapor RDA by Wotofo | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[Hans Wermhat]

I wasn't asking for no brained tid bits but actual in depth answers and opinions about these two RDAs. Don't comment on my threads if you can only give me what these people gave me right above me, wasting my time.

I thought that was a pretty good answer. There really isn't much difference in most of the RDA's out there right now. There are 3 basic styles with 2 post variations. (Some are shortys, some are a more standard size.) Top, bottom, and side airflow, and either 3 post or t-post. 3 post designs aren't usually the easiest to build on for a beginner because aligning the coil with the air flow can be tricky. You usually get the best flavor if you can put the coil just above the air flow, but there are exceptions. RDA's are more about customizing your vape with how you build your coils. You may buy a RDA and get a totally different experience out of it than the next guy. Asking which RDA is better is like asking what the best juice is. It's all about personal preference. The REM looks like a knock off of a derringer. Reduced chamber size, so probably great flavor, but it will be a hotter vape and any popping that occurs will basically happen in your mouth since there is no room for it to dissipate. The Sapor is also a copy of someone else's design, but I can't think of the name of it. Is that a better response?

 

[undyingvape]

@Hans Wermhat very much so, thanks a lot. I enjoy a hotter vape then most and spit back is a problem for me that is why I was also looking into the mad hatter mini RDA because of the spit back guard, however my hands shake so building on a small RDA is difficult to say the least. My budget is small so I can't spend a lot on a never before seen RDA so everything in my price range will be a copy of sorts, not a clone, but that is true for every product we buy in america and around the world. About customizing by the way you vape, I vape low, .5 ohm and below, but hot. eg: 30+ watts at .5 ohm with 26g kanth on my Kangertech Subtank mini RBA. I do have wicking issues since I like a hotter vape, even with 40/60 vg/pg, e- juice just can't get there fast enough for me, I take like 5-10 second pulls.

 

[undyingvape]

@BennyAdeline I checked out your link and I have to say the Sapor sounds like the way to go for me. I am hesitant because at 60 watts on your build you said it was a kind of "cool" vape. The eVic VT, best temp control at my price range, I will be getting only goes to 60 watts so will I need to build lower, like .3 or .2, to get that warm to hot vape that I like?

 

[edyle]

@Hans Wermhat very much so, thanks a lot. I enjoy a hotter vape then most and spit back is a problem for me that is why I was also looking into the mad hatter mini RDA because of the spit back guard, however my hands shake so building on a small RDA is difficult to say the least. My budget is small so I can't spend a lot on a never before seen RDA so everything in my price range will be a copy of sorts, not a clone, but that is true for every product we buy in america and around the world. About customizing by the way you vape, I vape low, .5 ohm and below, but hot. eg: 30+ watts at .5 ohm with 26g kanth on my Kangertech Subtank mini RBA. I do have wicking issues since I like a hotter vape, even with 40/60 vg/pg, e- juice just can't get there fast enough for me, I take like 5-10 second pulls.

for ease of build have a look at the magma, manta and velocity.

 

[BennyAdeline]

@BennyAdeline I checked out your link and I have to say the Sapor sounds like the way to go for me. I am hesitant because at 60 watts on your build you said it was a kind of "cool" vape. The eVic VT, best temp control at my price range, I will be getting only goes to 60 watts so will I need to build lower, like .3 or .2, to get that warm to hot vape that I like?

I used twisted 28 gauge, which takes heat well. You can build for a warm vape easily. Check out steam engine and shoot for a higher heat flux

 

[undyingvape]

@BennyAdeline Do you use triple twisted 28g? My freedom smokes has triple twisted 28g I have been wanting to try for awhile now. I used steam engine to try and base line what I am currently using, .5 ohm OCC from kangertech at 25w, and there are variables I don't know like inner dia. of current coil. Maybe I am stupid but does the heat flux come out in degrees Fahrenheit? The color icon shows that it is a hot vape but it definitely isn't at all, very cool imo.

 

[BennyAdeline]

@BennyAdeline Do you use triple twisted 28g? My freedom smokes has triple twisted 28g I have been wanting to try for awhile now. I used steam engine to try and base line what I am currently using, .5 ohm OCC from kangertech at 25w, and there are variables I don't know like inner dia. of current coil. Maybe I am stupid but does the heat flux come out in degrees Fahrenheit? The color icon shows that it is a hot vape but it definitely isn't at all, very cool imo.

I use double twisted.

You're not stupid..it takes a while to learn. What are you wrapping your coil around?

If the info isn't exact, your heat flux will be wrong.

 

[undyingvape]

@BennyAdeline The coil I have in right now is a pre built OCC from kangertech. I was trying to get my current vape temp range. I think my sweet spot is 450 degrees Fahrenheit. What I wrap my kanthal varies depending on the size, I try and stay with 5 wraps on my RBA because the deck is crazy small. Now that you showed me the steam engine though I can stay around 450 and just input my wire and ohms.

 

[Rob_H]

I use double twisted.

You're not stupid..it takes a while to learn. What are you wrapping your coil around?

If the info isn't exact, your heat flux will be wrong.

Good advice. Double twist 28 works really well, ive tried triple and its just too slow to heat up. I really like twisted wire and use it in almost all my atty's. The flavor is just bellow a clapton, not by much but the twisted ramps up much faster and does not hold the heat as bad as a clapton or larger gauge wire. Its all around a good choice for a flavor/vapor build.

 

[batteredwombat]

I built a 0.05 fused clapton yesterday and man the vape is hot but it changes the taste of the vape so much. All my others are twisted kanthal of various gauges as they are simple and have great flavor and quick ramp up time.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

If you like a hot vape, you can try Nichrome. It's a MUCH lower resistance wire and it heats up and cools off a lot faster. You can build a coil with 8 wraps instead of 5 and get more vapor that is hotter that with kanthal at about the same ohms. Also, it sounds like you are chasing a a bigger cloud taking long pulls. If you use a higher VG juice, you will get bigger clouds, but you will lose some of the throat hit. If you want, plug your numbers for kanthal A1 into steam engine, then switch the wire type to Nichrome 80 and watch the numbers change. I use 24G in almost all of my drippers. It runs hotter faster and uses less battery power. Just be careful. The resistance is super low and it sounds like you are already building pretty low with kanthal. You will need to make bigger coils to keep the resistance up in the safe range.

 

[undyingvape]

@Hans Wermhat I am not trying to chase a bigger cloud but get a better throat hit. 5-10 sec pulls give me that really sharp and deep throat hit that I like. I looked up Nichrome 80 in steam engine and it didn't seem to change all that much for me, besides having to use more watts in TC mode to keep my temp at 450 degrees with a .2 ohm dual coil build. Thanks for the information though, I hadn't considered nichrome 80 yet.