Satisfaction Level Between Ego's And Mods.

[D4ENX]

Hey everyone, so just a quick question as to do with your experience with the transition from ego's to mods.

Personally when I went from the disposable cigarette style to the ego-t I was quite allot more satisfied with the vape than before, I have recently upgraded from that to my vamo and even though it is noticeably better I find my self being slightly unsatisfied with the vape, even though its not miles different there's just something about it that makes me want to go back to the ego 's every once and a while, it's not until I have put on my viva nova am I starting to get the same satisfaction level I was before, i don't know what it is though, maybe the size? Just interested if anyone else has had the same experience? And wonder if it takes some getting used to or just a matter of finding the best set up that works for me. Thanks, Dean.

 

[tj99959]

Form factor has a lot to do with which PV a person will like best.

Maybe you would like something like this.
ElectronicStix.Com · iTaste MVP VV

 

[Griff.J]

LOL.. I went from eGo-C Twist to a Vamo V3 and while the Vamo certainly has more cool factor and an ohm checker. I find that perhaps there's not a whole lot of difference in vape quality. I've also noticed that vaping via power setting burns up my coils so I've had to switch the Vamo back to voltage. The whole reason I wanted the Vamo was for using wattage. LOL oh well.

 

[Sickkboy]

I remember the time I changed from ego-t to twist, it was quite a good satisfaction for me. But when upgrade to APV was a huge different.

 

[Jazzi Mike]

I love my Zmax way more than my egos. I have been donating the egos to my friends who still smoke. I stopped using them.

I love the variable wattage setting and I get a better vape. What exactly are you not liking about your Vamo?

 

[wv2win]

I found the Vamo to be a BIG positive upgrade over an ego. Are you using the Vamo in RMS (N02) mode (V2 version) and setting your power in watts? If not, that could be your problem right there.

 

[BlueMoods]

It's just a matter of deciding what you really want from your PV, then researching and, finding the one that delivers all of that.

Personally I went form cigalike to 510 to ego to Provari before I got happy with my PV.

 

[Griff.J]

I thought VW was so that you set it to say, 8 watts, the unit checks the resistance and then gives it the right voltage to perform well.. but perhaps 8 watts is too much? I tested it with 1.5 and 2.5 ohm coils, with juice on them in only about 2 seconds of firing the coils started to glow. But I found below 8 watts, I don't really like the vape. But if I set it to voltage on the 1.5ohm and set the Vamo to 3.7-3.9 I get perfectly good performance and the coil doesn't start glowing. I dunno I'm new to the VW thing..

 

[fourtytwo]

I have a number of large devices but still use my eGos about half the time.
Unless there is a major new technology, the jump from cig-alikes to eGos was likely the biggest single jump in performance you will see.

 

[Thunderball]

I have gone full circle. From Ego to twist to MVP/Vamo/SVD/ to Provari...... I just ordered two MNew Twist's and a couple Protank Mini's just so I can lanyard from time to time while fishing/yardwork/ etc.

I like them all, but.....your vamo should give you the ability to "zero in" on your vape sweet spot. The biggest jump in performance is when you go to a good quality carto tank and carto..... or use a good dripping atomizer. This is when you will go to the next level...IMHO.

Its the juice delivery system that makes the big difference..the right coil to go with your juice...etc. Zero in on that.

 

[unsure]

A good RBA with the right coil and you won't be asking any questions.

 

[SIXteenINdaCLIP]

I agree with Thunderball, the delivery system makes a big difference. Try a rebuildable atty like an Igo-L, RSST, or AGA-T. The learning curve isn't too steep and the vape quality is far better than a carto or clearo IMO

 

[Baditude]

I have gone full circle. From Ego to twist to MVP/Vamo/SVD/ to Provari...... I just ordered two MNew Twist's and a couple Protank Mini's just so I can lanyard from time to time while fishing/yardwork/ etc.

I like them all, but.....your vamo should give you the ability to "zero in" on your vape sweet spot. The biggest jump in performance is when you go to a good quality carto tank and carto..... or use a good dripping atomizer. This is when you will go to the next level...IMHO.

Its the juice delivery system that makes the big difference..the right coil to go with your juice...etc. Zero in on that.

I can relate to this.

I have a variety of different size and different form factor PVs. I started with cigalikes along with eGo size batteries. Began my APV journey with two completely different sized mechanical mods - an Altsmoke BB and Silver Bullet. Began my foray into variable voltage mods with my first Provari.

Since getting those three basic staples of APVs, I've purchased some alternative PV's for specific purposes. A Smoktech mechanical Gripper and Smoktech VV Gripper, a Segelei V8 VV PV, a Vapage VMod mechanical bottom feeder mod, and recently won an Innokin iTaste MVP which I plan to donate to a close friend considering making the switch from smoking to vaping. (Deal is they get to use it to quit, or I get it back)

I enjoy all of my mods; each serve a special purpuse. I tend to use a couple of them much more than the others, but I still use all of them and know I have reliable backups when needed.

I've found that I prefer cartotanks as my main delivery device. They provide me with the fullest flavor, are consistant and durable. I have RBA's for use at home should I please. When working at optimum performance there is nothing to compare, but for me they are time consuming and finicky. And I am finding that I really like a dripping atomizer on my bottom feeder for both home and on the go. I have at least a dozen of flavors that I enjoy in a rotation. I'm experimenting with DIY e-liquids.

I've pretty happy with my current setup, but always open to try new things that catch my eye.

 

[glowplug]

W = V2 / R

Watts = voltage squared divided by resistance (ohms)

If you know your volts and ohms you can find the wattage you like by plugging into the equation

W=(3.9)2 divided by 1.5
W=15.21/1.5
W=10.4

Wow, that seems way high. What did I do wrong folks? This would mean setting the device at 10.5 watts should give a good vape on a 1.5ohm coil, right? I am new at electricity but old hand at formulas.....?

 

[glowplug]

so wattage is indirectly proportional to resistance and volts are directly proportional to resistance?

 

[Griff.J]

So anyone else want to add their ? Higher value of watts for lower resistance coil? Math is my worst subject. Just dumb it down for me...

Damn ADD


(and yes my avatar is a nerd brain.. I'm a network administrator, not a rocket scientist )

 

[Myk]

The only real benefit I see with the flavors that do good on an eGo is not needing to charge batteries on the time. Between a large tank and an 18650 I'm no longer tied to a syringe and a charger. With multiple large mods, tanks and a stock of batteries I'm really not tied down.

I had a flavor I liked better on eGos. You inspired me to remove a flavor I liked on my eVic and adjust it to eGo levels. It's the same.

Another benefit is with VW whatever your coil comes out to be or changes to the mod will adjust. Not a real big deal with eGo-Cs, it seems their attys are all close in ohms and when they start changing they're on their way to being dead soon anyway.
Of course the flavors that don't do well with the eGo stock voltage are better with some kind of variable.

W = V2 / R

Watts = voltage squared divided by resistance (ohms)

If you know your volts and ohms you can find the wattage you like by plugging into the equation

W=(3.9)2 divided by 1.5
W=15.21/1.5
W=10.4

Wow, that seems way high. What did I do wrong folks? This would mean setting the device at 10.5 watts should give a good vape on a 1.5ohm coil, right? I am new at electricity but old hand at formulas.....?

You popped in out of nowhere to post those numbers. Without checking your math (believing you are an old hand at formulas) ohm's law doesn't tell the whole story of what goes on with ecigs.
I had a dual ribbon coil 1.5Ω. It took high wattage. There was a lot of mass there to heat up. I tried the same RDA with a single 2.2Ω coil (I think) with 32ga, didn't like it, could've been the coil or the atty didn't like singles. Tried a dual 1.5Ω with 32ga and it's back to a normal wattage for that Ω and me, heats up reasonably fast and makes that atty a contender for top spot with a single ribbon coil RDA I've liked from the start.
Move the air hole out of place on either of those RDAs and they get very bad.
I've also had some flavors that did better at very high wattages. Some that start out low but work their way high as they gunk things up and it takes more to heat up the blob.
Basically you don't give enough information to answer what you "did wrong" other than you're assuming "watts + ohms + liquid" is the complete equation to a good vape. The reality is, if it tastes good it's a good vape and there's a lot more than volts and ohms going into making it taste good.

 

[Ryedan]

I have gone full circle. From Ego to twist to MVP/Vamo/SVD/ to Provari...... I just ordered two MNew Twist's and a couple Protank Mini's just so I can lanyard from time to time while fishing/yardwork/ etc.

I like them all, but.....your vamo should give you the ability to "zero in" on your vape sweet spot. The biggest jump in performance is when you go to a good quality carto tank and carto..... or use a good dripping atomizer. This is when you will go to the next level...IMHO.

Its the juice delivery system that makes the big difference..the right coil to go with your juice...etc. Zero in on that.

Totally agree with Thunderball.

A power supply makes power. Yes there are differences between them, but in general if you are getting enough power to run your juice delivery device the way you want you will not notice much difference between them. The vape is most influenced by your clearo/atomizer/tank/cartomizer/rba. I would concentrate on that end until you realize you are missing something from the power supply.

 

[Ryedan]

So anyone else want to add their ? Higher value of watts for lower resistance coil? Math is my worst subject. Just dumb it down for me...

Damn ADD


(and yes my avatar is a nerd brain.. I'm a network administrator, not a rocket scientist )

No. Set watts to what you like. Volts change with resistance to keep watts the same. Here's an Ohm's law calculator. Input any 2 variables and it will calcualte the rest. Play with it a bit and you will understand.

 

[Griff.J]

So apparently I want 10 watts on the Vamo to give an equivalent vape to a 1.5ohm coil on an eGo twist at 3.9 volts. Still confused why using power setting is making my coils glow so quickly. And its a V3, it only has RMS setting. I dunno... whatev' LOL

Edit: Huh.. Vamo sure is pounding clouds now. We'll see if I get burny tastes again.