SB Mother's Milk %100 Exact Clone !

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I do not own, work or any relation with Sucide Bunny company. I ask for one favor, do not sell this recipe as original or even clone to anyone, thats all I ask.

This is %100 exact taste of MM, you will not be able to tell any difference if you vape it side by side with the original.

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SB Mother's Milk %100 Exact Clone !

- Total flavor is %25. The original MM has %30 flavor in it.
- The recipe must be prepared %70VG / %30PG for the creamy taste.

The recipe must be made as it is, no flavor can be replaced. The cinnamon spice is %0.1, that means for 30ml batch you are going to put a one drop with a pastor pippete which is 31 drops equal to 1ml. E.g: For 100ml, you will put 3 drops with a pastor pippete. It is strong and calculation is so important for the taste. A single extra drop will ruin the batch.

Marshmallow will add body like MM has. Vanillin is there to take out the harsh part of Sweet Strawberry and adding some sweetness that you are searching for. It is very important for SS, otherwise SS will be overwhelming, that is how it is muted in original MM and the custard is on front.

Steep Time: 25 days, you can taste and vape it after 10 days. The correct taste will come out after 25 days.

I have also FP grandmaster and castle long recipes, that I will post soon.

Happy new year to everyone, this is a gift from me to welcome 2016 ;)
 
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I do not own, work or any relation with Sucide Bunny company. I ask for one favor, do not sell this recipe as original or even clone to anyone, thats all I ask.

This is %100 exact taste of MM, you will not be able to tell any difference if you vape it side by side with the original.


- Total flavor is %25. The original MM has %30 flavor in it.
- The recipe must be prepared %70VG / %30PG for the creamy taste.

The recipe must be made as it is, no flavor can be replaced. The cinnamon spice is %0.1, that means for 30ml batch you are going to put a one drop with a pastor pippete which is 31 drops equal to 1ml. E.g: For 100ml, you will put 3 drops with a pastor pippete. It is strong and calculation is so important for the taste. A single extra drop will ruin the batch.

Marshmallow will add body like MM has. Vanillin is there to take out the harsh part of Sweet Strawberry and adding some sweetness that you are searching for. It is very important for SS, otherwise SS will be overwhelming, that is how it is muted in original MM and the custard is on front.

Steep Time: 25 days, you can taste and vape it after 10 days. The correct taste will come out after 25 days.

I have also FP grandmaster and castle long recipes, that I will post soon.

Happy new year to everyone, this is a gift from me to welcome 2016 ;)
Your other recipes have been so good I can't wait to try this one!
 

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What calculator are you using? When I put in 0.1 on the cinnamon, it shows 0 drops per 30 mill bottle

I use ejuicemeup, the important thing is your drop count. I use a pastor pipette(http://s12.postimg.org/xgr473xjx/G3374_plastic_pasteur_pipettes.jpg) which is 31 drops equal to 1ml. If you set it in ejuicemeup, it will tell you to put #drops according to your drop count and %. The best way to make sure is to count your drops. Take whatever you want to use for drop ie pastor pipette, take water in it and drop into syringe until you get 1ml, its your drop count where you set it in ejuicemeup.
 
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I use ejuicemeup, the important thing is your drop count. I use a pastor pipette(http://s12.postimg.org/xgr473xjx/G3374_plastic_pasteur_pipettes.jpg) which is 31 drops equal to 1ml. If you set it in ejuicemeup, it will tell you to put #drops according to your drop count and %. The best way to make sure is to count your drops. Take whatever you want to use for drop ie pastor pipette, take water in it and drop into syringe until you get 1ml, its your drop count where you set it in ejuicemeup.
Thank you for the advice.
 

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Just spent 100 ordering all the stuff for this. Hope I like it now to find one for strawnilla. Any suggestions?

I never vaped strawnilla before but from their website information, it is
- French Vanilla that is produced with an egg custard base
- A ripe Natural Strawberry Extract

From this information, it is not possible to clone it %100 if they use natural strawberry extract which is custom and maybe custom french vanilla too however, to me I'm not sure how they keep natural strawberry extract fresh after steeping, because when it is %100 natural strawberry, i dont believe it can hold up for 3 months when there is an oxygen exposure, decay will start and cannot be stopped until it is not %100 natural even with some chemical protection. So, I would mix up the following; ;)

  • French Vanilla v2 (Cap) %3
  • Vanilla Custard v2 (Cap) %1
  • Meringue (FA) %1 (Becareful with this one, you dont want so much eggy taste, if it is too much after 30days steep, reduce to %0.5 on next batch.)
  • Strawberry Ripe (TPA) %6
  • Sweet Strawberry (Cap) %2
  • Cream Fresh (FA) %2 (Just for mouth feeling, fullness and cream)
Mix: %50 PG/VG as original
Steep: 20 days.

I would have better results if I vape it, french vanilla can be replaced with TPA normal french vanilla at %6 for tests, cap and tpa french vanillas taste almost different in formulas. But I think above will do it, the recipe is diketone free :)
 
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Hi React,

I Mixed some of this up, its had about a week and also about 5 hours in hot water

Really nice!... seriously good job (never tried the original from SB but ive had others)

One question though... for me it is a little bit spicy/cinamony (could the graham cracker do this?)

I am about to mix up a second batch of it and wondered what might be causing this (im trying to pick holes and i appreciate people tastes are different so this is probaly just me picking it up)

What do you think I could reduce to stop this? I cant imagine the cinamon would have this affect unless its a very very potent flavouring? (no idea)
 
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Hi React,

I Mixed some of this up, its had about a week and also about 5 hours in hot water

Really nice!... seriously good job (never tried the original from SB but ive had others)

One question though... for me it is a little bit spicy/cinamony (could the graham cracker do this?)

I am about to mix up a second batch of it and wondered what might be causing this (im trying to pick holes and i appreciate people tastes are different so this is probaly just me picking it up)

What do you think I could reduce to stop this? I cant imagine the cinamon would have this affect unless its a very very potent flavouring? (no idea)

Hi Silentnight1,
I'm glad you like it. I assume you were using Cinnamon Spice from TPA and you made the recent recipe that I have updated in the 4th reply SB Mother's Milk %100 Exact Clone !.

The cinnamon spice flavor in this formula is way powerful than any flavor out there, that is why i wrote many warnings about it. It is so strong. I have been using it 1 drop with a pastor pipette for 30ml liquid. If you are making less than 30ml, that is the reason. I recommend you to make 50ml and use 1 drop cinnamon spice that will fix the issue you are having. I would have use 2 drops of cinnamon spice for 100ml production even can be one drop for 100ml as well. Since it is powerful. It is not possible to taste graham cracker in this formula, it is just a complementary of other flavors. You may also use different cinnamon flavors from different brands like FA by playing with its % ratio. Also keep Sweet Strawberry at %6 instead of %6.5.

The best suggestion for this recipe is, do not make hot water steep. The Sweet Strawberry is alchol based flavor and when you heat it, its chemical parts are getting damage which results a chemical or plastic taste. The best way for this recipe is to wait 30 days without any other action. All creamy recipes should be tested atleast after 25 days since custard and creams are the most late aging flavors.
 

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Thats awesome! ill give it a go! thanks very much :)

Just to clarify, your original strawberry % was 8%, then 6.5% in your adjusted recipe - but you are suggesting I use 6% now?, could I ask why? (could this add to the spicy taste i am getting?)

Also guys... do NOT be put off by this discussion as I am being extremely picky here.... and with it the way i can taste it is still an amazing taste & vape, im just a little sensitive to the spice of cinnamon it seems :p - I am sticking to this recipe, it is the best mothers milk I have found & I just need to make a small personal adjustment for myself :)
 
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Thats awesome! ill give it a go! thanks very much :)

Just to clarify, your original strawberry % was 8%, then 6.5% in your adjusted recipe - but you are suggesting I use 6% now?, could I ask why? (could this add to the spicy taste i am getting?)

Also guys... do NOT be put off by this discussion as I am being extremely picky here.... and with it the way i can taste it is still an amazing taste & vape, im just a little sensitive to the spice of cinnamon it seems :p - I am sticking to this recipe, it is the best mothers milk I have found & I just need to make a small personal adjustment for myself :)

Some people finds it strong when it is at 10 days steep. However, after 30 days even %6.5 SS will be reduced %40 since it is alchol based flavor. But this is surely not related to cinnamon taste, the cinnamon is the cinnamon spice in the formula.

Just received all my stuff in the mail yesterday and mixed 100 ml up. Smells really good but strong stronger then the original just hope it mellows down in a month

If you have mixed the latest updated version SB Mother's Milk %100 Exact Clone ! Yes it will surely mellow, that Sweet Strawberry is an alchol based flavor, when you mix it fresh it is like a strawberry heaven, it goes off after 20 days and after 30 days you wont even taste it fully. The only thing that can be over powering after 30 days is the Cinnamon Spice, I would have use 2 drops for 100ml production, although ejuiceme up tells 3 drops at %0.1 for 100ml. But test it after 30 days and you will find the right spot if it is used too much. :)
 
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I know its not gonna come out the same, but what would be a recommended starting percentage, substituting cinnamon roll for the cinnamon spice?
Of course it will come out different but what brand cinnamon roll is the question ? There are 3-4 brands and percentage changes according to their brand.

I also have a substitution question. Can't get my hands on FA cream fresh. Any decent CAP or TFA substitutes? Thanks and great work.
FA Cream fresh in this recipe is just for mouth feeling and fullness of the steam instead of cream effect. You can get the same effect with TPA whipped cream at %3 but i'm not sure if it will change the taste or mute other flavors. Since I used it once, it was okay with different formulas. I recommend a small 30ml test production with it.
 

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Of course it will come out different but what brand cinnamon roll is the question ? There are 3-4 brands and percentage changes according to their brand.


FA Cream fresh in this recipe is just for mouth feeling and fullness of the steam instead of cream effect. You can get the same effect with TPA whipped cream at %3 but i'm not sure if it will change the taste or mute other flavors. Since I used it once, it was okay with different formulas. I recommend a small 30ml test production with it.
LA.... I'll be mixing this up after work....
 
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