School Bus Driver Investigated for Vaping On Bus
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Oh the horror -- some precious snowflakes may have been exposed to something that looks like smoking! I'm sure they're emotionally scarred for life now.
If it is against his employer's policy he is an idiot for doing it and should be disciplined or fired according to that policy.
Hmmm...apart from the driver being a bit foolish risking his job - after all, employer has rules in place.
Doesn't matter if he likes them or not. Would he been smarter if heÄd stepped out for a few puffs or stealth vape unflavoured.
Nevertheless, sixth grader seems to know about vaping, how come
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And how about the press developing that much zeal in following up on crooked gov't officials ?
Investigation ... what's next : vaping Gestapo ???
Doesn't matter if he likes them or not. Would he been smarter if heÄd stepped out for a few puffs or stealth vape unflavoured.
Nevertheless, sixth grader seems to know about vaping, how come
?And how about the press developing that much zeal in following up on crooked gov't officials ?
Investigation ... what's next : vaping Gestapo ???
I'm a school bus driver and I can say in the current anti smoking climate of today this bus driver is an idiot. In no universe could this have turned out well, for anyone with the way things are. I've been vaping for 3 years and have never been so desperate that I would vape in my bus. If I'm on a long field trip over the weekend I simply step off my bus. If things were different and everyone knew there is no danger from second hand vapor and vaping was allowed I would vape on the bus but that isn't the reality of the situation.
I've seen a driver on the trolley in San Diego blowing modest clouds. But he's in a closed booth with vent windows, so no one's sensitive nose is offended ... 
Still, its just a matter of time until some brittle person sees vapor and equates it to smoke, thereby proving that they slept through their high school physics class ...
When the Mexicoach still went to Tijuana, a lot of the drivers and passengers would light up the instant the bus crossed the border, its a different world ...
Still, its just a matter of time until some brittle person sees vapor and equates it to smoke, thereby proving that they slept through their high school physics class ...
When the Mexicoach still went to Tijuana, a lot of the drivers and passengers would light up the instant the bus crossed the border, its a different world ...
Ambush story. Dead give away? The child was mentioned by name.
The child's answers and statements are totally rehearsed.
“Oh my gosh,” he said, “It's almost like walking into a cupcake bakery."
“They should be enforcing their policies, they should be making it well known to those employees that they cannot be smoking on school buses,” she said. “I don't care if it's a pen, a cigarette, I don't care what it is."
Fog of cup cake? really? The bus driver must have been using a Manhattan competition Mod.
Meanwhile in every other school district.
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mike
The child's answers and statements are totally rehearsed.
“Oh my gosh,” he said, “It's almost like walking into a cupcake bakery."
“They should be enforcing their policies, they should be making it well known to those employees that they cannot be smoking on school buses,” she said. “I don't care if it's a pen, a cigarette, I don't care what it is."
Fog of cup cake? really? The bus driver must have been using a Manhattan competition Mod.
Meanwhile in every other school district.
cup - Google Search
Regards
mike
Perhaps it was the nausea I experienced when watching this "breaking" news story, but I didn't hear that the driver was actually vaping in front of the kids. Sounds like he did this alone on the bus and reeked of <gasp> "cupcakes".
The bus driver's judgment aside... the real story here is the attention it's getting. You all can chastise him/her for putting vaping in a bad light but if you haven't figured it out by now... we're already there. Big time. It's too late. Masterful social engineering based on propaganda has won over once again.
The bus driver's judgment aside... the real story here is the attention it's getting. You all can chastise him/her for putting vaping in a bad light but if you haven't figured it out by now... we're already there. Big time. It's too late. Masterful social engineering based on propaganda has won over once again.
I totally disagree with you on this. <nods>
He may be an idiot or he may be very clever you just don't know.
You think he should be fire to protect the sanctity of ridiculous and overreaching rules.
I might do this or something similar. I will not succumb to ridiculous and overreaching rules.
Last NDA I was asked to sign I said NO I am not signing that because [...] so they never came back on that.
Never been in a situation where drug testing was a term of employment and I never will be, I am completely inflexible about that. NEVER. I'll eat bugs first.
Same with an insurance co. you want my blood, cameras up my backside? GFY. <nods>
But that's just me.
I totally disagree with you on this. <nods>
He may be an idiot or he may be very clever you just don't know.
You think he should be fire to protect the sanctity of ridiculous and overreaching rules.
I might do this or something similar. I will not succumb to ridiculous and overreaching rules.
Last NDA I was asked to sign I said NO I am not signing that because [...] so they never came back on that.
Never been in a situation where drug testing was a term of employment and I never will be, I am completely inflexible about that. NEVER. I'll eat bugs first.
Same with an insurance co. you want my blood, cameras up my backside? GFY. <nods>
But that's just me.
I get it I really do, but in some professions if you want to work you have to play by the rules like it or not.
The work climate is not what it once was anymore, where employees were at a premium and employers went out of their way to secure the best, the tables have turned and now it's the employers who are at a premium, and, in turn, they are taking full advantage of it.
No-nic hiring practices, BMI requirements, random drug testing, morality clauses and other rules governing behavior ..... and any benefits they offer also come at a premium, like, nic/BMI/drug testing, ongoing health screening and other hoop-jumping requirements for continued health insurance coverage that is no longer an equitable premium charge across the board.
So, to me the answer is don't take a job that has certain rules and conditions that you can not abide by or expect to be disciplined/fired if you get caught.
You used the word "professions". I've seen very little, if any, grousing and complaining from people with professional jobs who are making good salaries 60K, 80K or more a year, in professions that they worked hard to get the education to get in the first place. I imagine that people who have families to support and mortgages to pay and/or went thru 4-8 years of higher education to get there don't "throw it all away" in order to vape against workplace rules.
You can do that stuff if you are living in Mom's basement, or flitting from minimum wage job to minimum wage job (which is what happens to employees who are under the delusion that they are the ones who get to "call the shots".
)As for this case, vaporizers are used for other things. If the bus driver was using a vaporizer in a bus that would be filled with children, he's an idiot. He also lied to the kid, saying the smell was from the heater. Buses are school property, therefore, an extension of school property. This would be no different than a teacher vaping inside the classroom. This is all common sense.
Parents don't want their children to walk thru or sit in a haze of vapor on a school bus. And, I have to agree, they shouldn't have to.
At any rate, the woman would never have gone to the news if the school had taken some accountability, basiially, they claimed they couldn't keep track of all their bus drivers.
That statement alone would make me *wonder* if i should put my kid on a bus in that district......a district who admits they don't have the resources to "monitor" what bus drivers are *doing*???? Yikes. This is like a train wreck waiting to happen. There are already incidents on the books where bus drivers, both school and municipally employed, have talked on their cell phones, loaded their ecigs with ejuice while driving, vaped while driving, etc.
If nobody is monitoring the drivers, then that is left up to the children themselves in this district? Yikes again. That is what happened here. Bus drivers are carrying the lives of children, they HAVE to be monitored.
BAsically, all they should be doing while on the job is driving, and being watchful for the safety of the kids. Not practicing their habits, whether that be using a cell phone, vaping, vaporizing whatever, eating a sandwich, etc. Next it will be reading girly magazines while on the bus waiting for the children to load, or worse.
Like I've said here for years, there seems to be a distinct "disconnect" in the workforce today, who don't seem to realize that they are on the clock while somebody is paying them. Instead, everybody seems to think the workplace is their personal living room, where they get to do whatever they want.
We once had a receptionist who was the first person clients would interface with when they walked thru the door. For some reason, she thought clipper her nails and such, at her desk, (once even putting on nail polish) was "okay". Revolting. She was let go pretty quickly. This wasn't a factory, it was a professional office LOL Again, people don't seem to understand the difference between their living room and the workplace. We once had a guy clip his toenails in his cubicle. There is really something wrong with people.
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I'm not aware of any school districts that don't hold buses as an extension of school district property, and therefore an extension of the school or classroom, i.e subject to district policies and procedures.
I know of no classrooms where school personnel are allowed to vape.
Some districts are so poorly funded that they find themselves in situations like the above. The pay is awful in those districts and the driver turn over is very fast and so is the dispatch and mechanic and aid turn over. It's a bad situation. The buses are old and in some cases on their last leg. It doesn't make much sense really when it's these drivers who are getting these kids to school for the very parents who did their time who now hold the professional positions that pay so much better but the drivers are getting hammered for being losers. Why is that? If school bus drivers disappeared the white collar workers would be in one hell of a pickle, you can't get your kids to school when your supposed to be at work. Pay for these drivers/dispatchers/mechanics would then go up to where it should be in the first place and then districts could then afford to hire people who actually care about being a school bus driver/mechanic/aid for special needs.
I'm lucky that I live in a district that doesn't suffer like this. The pay is excellent for a part time job, way above minimum wage by quite a bit. $22/HR to be exact. I have a brand new bus with multiple camera's on board that allow the transportation director to review anything that occurs on the bus whenever he needs to, no need for investigations. I'm also lucky that I have a job I truly enjoy but if I lived and worked in a district like the one in the article, where funding is almost absent I wouldn't touch that job with a ten foot pole and I'd blame the very people with the resources to make it better for not making it better. A crappy work environment will attract workers with crappy attitudes who don't give two
about school policies for tobacco products. These are *your* kids riding these buses.
I'm lucky that I live in a district that doesn't suffer like this. The pay is excellent for a part time job, way above minimum wage by quite a bit. $22/HR to be exact. I have a brand new bus with multiple camera's on board that allow the transportation director to review anything that occurs on the bus whenever he needs to, no need for investigations. I'm also lucky that I have a job I truly enjoy but if I lived and worked in a district like the one in the article, where funding is almost absent I wouldn't touch that job with a ten foot pole and I'd blame the very people with the resources to make it better for not making it better. A crappy work environment will attract workers with crappy attitudes who don't give two
about school policies for tobacco products. These are *your* kids riding these buses.
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Arkansas[edit]
- No statewide vaping ban. Instead, vaping is generally prohibited on school property, although localities may choose to enact rules of their own that govern e-cigarette use but as of June 2015[update] none of them have chosen to do so.
- No statewide vaping ban. Instead, vaping is prohibited on Virginia Railway Express trains and limited to 100 feet on north end of station platforms. All other indoor places can freely permit vaping if they choose. The law is silent as to whether local governments can regulate vaping more stringently than the state, since they are forbidden from regulating smoking more stringently.
- No statewide vaping ban. Instead, vaping is generally prohibited on all Department of Corrections property and grounds, by both employees and inmates, with no exceptions whatsoever. All other indoor places, including bars, restaurants, and gambling facilities are entirely exempt from the state e-cigarette regulations. Localities may regulate vaping more stringently than the state.
- No statewide vaping ban. Instead, vaping is prohibited only on all properties of State Executive Branch, including buildings, vehicles, and land, but excluding specific outdoor areas such as parks, Kentucky Horse Park, and Kentucky State Fairgrounds. Per Governor's Office, does not apply to State colleges and universities. Localities may regulate vaping more stringently than the state.
- No statewide vaping ban. Instead, vaping is prohibited only on MARC commuter rail system trains. All other indoor places, including bars and restaurants, that are subject to the Maryland Clean Indoor Air Act are entirely exempt from the state's vaping regulations. Localities may regulate vaping more stringently than the state.
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