Scientific American E-cig article...

[SilverCloud]

Hey Gang,

There's a new article on Yahoo's news page about E-cigs that deserves our comments. Already the paid trolls are "poo-pooing" ecigs.

Bri

 

[crxess]

You really should include links.

 

[Bullette the Cowdog]

Do Electronic Cigarettes Really Help Smokers Quit?: Scientific American

Looks like a fair based article. Would hope so in Scientific American.

 

[dherrington]

I actually considered it a fairly positive article. First, it confirms that the carcinogens in e-cigs are only one one thousandth of an analog. Secondly, it may not happen but somebody is actually even CONSIDERING it as a prescription quit smoking device. Of course, if they regulate them so that you need a doctor's permission to use them, that could be a pain in the ...., but in the UK with its universal health care, if the move goes through, most everyone could get a prescription to use them and it would give vaping a lot more legitimacy.

 

[zoiDman]

I have generally found that Scientific American to be one of the Better Publications for being Devoid of Political Agendas.

Not Perfect. But I have yet to find Any Publication that is.

 

[Whosback]

I like the article actually. It appears well written. The best thing we can do is add some nice and RESPECTFUL comments in the comments section.

I'm posting as "Just My Thoughts" with how vapng has effected me and the quitting experience. I recommend that we all do the same.

 

[Iffy]

Well written article and about as unbiased as I've read elsewhere!

 

[unquiet]

Hey Gang,

There's a new article on Yahoo's news page about E-cigs that deserves our comments. Already the paid trolls are "poo-pooing" ecigs.

Bri

I just read through the comments and I don't think there were by any "paid trolls."

There were a few too poorly written to matter, and 20+ 'ecigs saved my life' stories.

I have generally found that Scientific American to be one of the Better Publications for being Devoid of Political Agendas.

Not Perfect. But I have yet to find Any Publication that is.

Yup, SciAm is a good mag.

 

[crxess]

Hopefully the studies will be fair, reflect well in the end and be published.

I enjoyed the positive comments left by those that have achieved their goals getting off smokes.

 

[El_tecolote]

Well written with a refreshing focus on fairness and objectivity.

 

[onry]

it is nice to see a fair report with all the comments not poo pooing on e-cigs and us vapers

 

[Talyon]

An interesting read, I'll also be very interested in the study's to be released later this year.

 

[zoiDman]

...

Yup, SciAm is a good mag.

Yeah... I read it for about 20 Years.

Got it at a Huge Discount from where I work. Forgot to renew it a couple of years back and haven't read one in awhile.

 

[Kabooma]

posted my story on it. The studies they cite coming out this year are awfully small. They should use communities like this one as examples of e-cig success. I've seen very few here just give up and go back to analogs.

 

[sonicdsl]

Moved to Media & General News

 

[llamainmypocket]

I love the, " there is little hard evidence that they actually help smokers quit"

Do you mean the reality that smokers are successfully quitting?

Whoa! Guys! Um... I realize that 70% of e cigarette users have stopped smoking but we need to do this in a lab. /end sarcasm. Since when did the observation of nature cease to be the basis for evidence?

 

[Iffy]

They should use communities like this one as examples of e-cig success.

As much as I'd encourage that, da ANTZ would toss back our objections to their BS in our face (bias).

Our primary hopes should be hinged upon independent scientific studies that eliminate da BP/BT monetary influences!

At least that article did mention da 1,000% reduction in carcinogens. That's VERY powerful!!!

 

[Altaire Versailles]

Nicadex? Hello!! Gimme some

I wouldn't think that only 9 out of 40 users quitting was indicative of the masses of attempted vapers...and then you also have to factor in things like whether or not they smoked cigalikes for a couple days and became unsatisfied quickly and didnt know there were more satisfying alternatives, or if they had a real desire to even quit in the first place.

 

[Whosback]

As much as I'd encourage that, da ANTZ would toss back our objections to their BS in our face (bias).

Our primary hopes should be hinged upon independent scientific studies that eliminate da BP/BT monetary influences!

At least that article did mention da 1,000% reduction in carcinogens. That's VERY powerful!!!

You took the words right off my keyboard.

There have been studies done from specific venders before of larger numbers and they have been shot down as being bias. Now that's a mixed bag seeing as how if you have a brand of choice, vaping is doing something for you, but sadly science can't allow for that due to the fact brand loyalty can skew the responses. So it's not really unrealistic to ask for something a little more free of possible influence.

I don't think we have anything to fear from actual studies meant to establish facts and not meant to serve any interest.

 

[DC2]

I wouldn't think that only 9 out of 40 users quitting was indicative of the masses of attempted vapers...and then you also have to factor in things like whether or not they smoked cigalikes for a couple days and became unsatisfied quickly and didnt know there were more satisfying alternatives, or if they had a real desire to even quit in the first place.

They had no desire to quit, and were considered to be hardcore smokers.
They were recruited for the study because they had turned down a free spot in a smoking cessation program.