See what all the hype is about - free Joye cartos with 60ml of juice! FreedomSmokeUSA.....

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mauisun

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Happy Saturday night, FSUSA fans and newcomers! We have another fantastic special for you this weekend.

Get a FREE 5-pack of the new 510 cartomizers from Joye, plus a 21ga syringe for filling when you buy 60ml of juice, or 10 cartos + syringe when you buy 120ml! These cartomizers are getting lots of attention lately, for their atty-like taste with their cartomizer convenience.

If you take part in this special, we want to hear from you! Tell us what you think of these cartomizers. Our ears are open and we want to know how you like them. Please mail us with your opinions of these: freedomsmokeusa@freedomsmokeusa.com

Look below to see ECF's own Cozzicon give the low-down on this new product from Joye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAO1DkJSUWU
 

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OK just ordered a 60ml of RY4. I absolutely love the eGo version of these cartomisers been using them pretty much exclusively for the last 2 weeks (almost 2 weeks). I hope the 510 version works as good or at least nearly as good. I got some of the ceramic e-2 cartos and I'm glad I only got 1 5-pack they don't seem to have much flavor. I'm really hoping the 510 version of these has taste like the ego ones do cause it'll be nice to have some smaller ones for flavor variety. I was wondering also when we will be able to buy these and how much will they be?
 

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There is the pretty basic carto design. Filler around a piece of cloth around a disposable twisty wire (the atomizer). There are issues with burning of the cloth and filler with this design. So there have been attempts to make a better carto. There is a noticeable difference between these and an atomizer. The taste is stronger, more vapor with an atomizer than with the same juice in one of this style cartomizer.

There is a newer design, the C-E2 which uses a reservoir and fiberglass strands to feed the juice to a disposable atomizer. These have gone through 4 revisions in the 4 months they've been available. Some folks like some don't. They don't have the burning issue. Some folks say almost like an atomizer.

Joye decided on a different approach. Still with a filler but the disposable atomizer part is changed, not a bit of wire that looks like a lightbulb filament but a bunch of much thinner wire, to me it looks like a tangle of hair. These too don't have the burning issue. They come in a huge size, the MegaEgo cartomizer and a more normal size but longer, the Joye 510 Cartomizer. Some folks say they come very close to an atomizer.
 

sammeedog

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i can't tell...is that a good or bad review?

I don't think so, it's the other brands with the burning issue, and an improvement with the Joye brands. These cartomizers are meant to be disposable, although we all try and stretch them out. My daughter hasn't complained about them, but she doesn't used them as often, I'm still trying to break her out of analogs.
 

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nope just buy a bottle of your favorite fluids. we will add the cartos and syringe. this is a while supplies last kinda sale :)

Do you still have some left? I was going to do a couple of 10ml orders but I lost most of my supplies in my friend's car last night (she lives far away), no telling when I'll get them back :(

This would probably be a better alternative for me now but I'm bummed since you came out with new flavors today.
 

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I mentioned in my previous post that I have been using these for almost 2 weeks(13 days). Only the eGo version so far and I can't wait to try the smaller 510 version. Anyway I just wanted to give my thoughts on these so far. Vapor is out of this world. When I was using a standard 510 atty and modded cart I would take draws about 6-8 seconds long and vapor was good. With these I take about a 3 second draw and I get even more vapor. Flavor is out of this world too. I am currently using the same eGo XL carto now that I have been using all day everyday since last Sunday. The flavor and vapor are the same today as last Sunday. I fill it slightly different than cozzy I use 1ml or just over and I angle the needle to either side being sure to get it into the filler and slowly inject about .5ml in either side. This has been working well I occasionally lose about a single drop out of the bottom and usually none. Also in my 13 days of use I have not gotten juice in my mouth once even a single time, and the only leakage I have had is a tiny bit when I've slightly overfilled. I have been getting an average of 6-10 hours of vaping per fill. My first day using these I managed to empty one in about 5 hours and that was when I vaped so much I gave myself a nicotine OD, that was a pretty killer headache. The only downside I can see to these is you can't clean them out to change flavors, however if you vape it to almost dry and switch from a sweet flavor like french toast to something fairly strong like Wyatt Earp there is no flavor problem at all. If you use something like Cinnabomb or a menthol or thin mint you would have to designate that carto to only that flavor. Of course if one of those flavors is your main vape it shouldn't be a problem. Also it seems that these will keep up with you no matter how fast you vape. You can take several large draws in a row and you will get lots of flavor and vapor every time without it ever tasting dry or burnt unlike with a atty and cart. When you have been vaping on one of these after a few hours you will occasionally need to give it a few shakes to get the last bits of juice. It really seems that you use all the juice you put in too. After 13 days I can't tell you how long these last. My first one I thought was going bad after 6 days but now I think I was just overfilling it. I also wanted to try an experiment and see if you can rinse them out and you can rinse them clean however even after shaking it and blowing it out then letting it dry for 3 days you can't ever get all the water out. Also I wanted to chop one open and see the insides. This one I am using now I have put about 15mls of French Toast through in 7 days and it is still filling well lasting for hours and not leaking. I absolutely love these and plan to use these almost exclusively, in my experience they are far better and easier to use than an atomizer. I really don't find the filling process to be very hard either, you can easily get it down to just about 2-3 min once you've done it a couple times.

Some tips on making syringe filling easier - If you want to keep the markings on your syringe wrap it with a thin layer of clear tape. (My wife gave me this idea, she is a diabetic and has been using them for years.) To fill I like to pull the stopper completely out and drip into the top of the syringe however much you are using to fill. This is much easier than taking the dripper top off every time, and drawing the juice up from the bottle can be difficult. Place the needle in the fill hole before before reinserting the plunger and then fill like normal. You will notice that the plunger never makes it all the way to where the juice is in the syringe you will get an air pocket between them. The cool thing about this is it pushes all of the juice out of the syringe and leaves nothing behind. As long as you inject slowly the little extra air doesn't hurt anything.

This video shows the method I use - http://www.youtube.com/user/donmuehlbauer#p/u/6/mreUfWcjJ2U I would have had this here before but I had a hard time finding it again. About all I do that is different is I use a small jeweler screwdriver to pop the top and inside cover off, a lot easier than with a paper clip IMO.
 
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