Sell me on a apv

[Wolfenstark]

Hello new vapor well going for little over 2-3 weeks and i have gone from a ce4 and battery to an aspire nautilus and vv 1600mah battery.
It is great and better than when i started.
I am fine doing my apprenticeship on my current system but like I gather most do I'm reading and looking for the best or peoples opinions of the best.
I see the thickish cylindrical mods and the rectangle ones. So they usually have an lcd and show you the volts and watts and ohms of coil etc and you can adjust all of those and they come with larger batteries some built in some you add.

I have two 1600mah vv batteries and use 1.8 bvc's and so far i have vaped from 3.5-4.3v and the battery goes up to 4.8v.
and when a battery runs out i charge it and in the meantime use another battery.
So how does a mod that say goes up to 5 or 6 v going to help me or having more battery when I have two batteries that I alternate ?
Question is how could you sell me on ever getting one of these mods ?

I'm sure people know this and they still seem to buy the mods but then i see videos of people with a mod in the back ground and they're using a normal battery and tank.

Just for the sake of getting a mod , seems i still have to supply the tank so glorious battery and volts you seldom need or use ?

Thank you.

 

[Cullin Kin]

If you're happy with what you have then there may be no need. Typically, more power (wattage) means more heat, and more heat means more vapor. More batteries just extend the overall battery life (2X if 2 batteries) so you don't need to always have one charging. I could be mistaken, but I believe two batteries run in series doubles the possible output voltage as well. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Point being, we can't sell you on these devices if you're happy where you're at. We're all different, I use my regulated (rectangle mod) at 23 Watts and 6.1V and absolutely love it! These devices open up a whole new world of customizability and fine tuning for your vape to what suits you, and you'll never know what you may or may not be missing out on if you don't give one a try.

That doesn't mean go out and buy one, but maybe explore some local Aussie vape shops and see if someone will allow you to try theirs.

Most of the 'thickish cylindrical mods' are mechanical and do not have the adjustable power settings, but those can be controlled purely through the coil resistance in the tank, atty, whatever you attach to the top. There are also VV/VW 'thickish cylindrical mods,' like the Provari or eVic Supreme, that do the exact same thing as the rectangle ones (box mods).

 

[Wolfenstark]

I use my regulated (rectangle mod) at 23 Watts and 6.1V and absolutely love it! These devices open up a whole new world of customizability and fine tuning for your vape to what suits you).

Thanks Cullin Kin , see when i read these volt/watts/ohm charts people post it suggests that for the 1.8ohm coils I use that 5v or more is likely to fry and burn out the coils and seeing as my battery goes to 4.8v and I so far like the 1.8 or 1.6 ohm coils Im not getting the point.
Do people buy like 4 to 5 ohm coils to vape at 6volts plus ? Coils for my nautilus seem to only be available at 1.6 or 1.8.
So far with the three e liquid companies i have used any more than 4.3 volts and the vapor is no better and maybe a tad burring ever so slightly all have been better at 3.5-4.3 tops. 70 pg 30 vg , 60pg 40 vg and one that doesn't say.

 

[Cullin Kin]

Thanks Cullin Kin , see when i read these volt/watts/ohm charts people post it suggests that for the 1.8ohm coils I use that 5v or more is likely to fry and burn out the coils and seeing as my battery goes to 4.8v and I so far like the 1.8 or 1.6 ohm coils Im not getting the point.
Do people buy like 4 to 5 ohm coils to vape at 6volts plus ? Coils for my nautilus seem to only be available at 1.6 or 1.8.
So far with the three e liquid companies i have used any more than 4.3 volts and the vapor is no better and maybe a tad burring ever so slightly all have been better at 3.5-4.3 tops. 70 pg 30 vg , 60pg 40 vg and one that doesn't say.

Yeah, that definitely rings true and nautilus coils have a bad habit of burning out or producing dry hits at high voltages. Are you using the new BVC (bottom vertical) coils?

Unfortunately, there aren't coils for sale that are up at 4-5Ω, I think there may be some out there that float at 2.4Ω. Most people that get the high powered VV/VW devices are building their own coils on RTA's (rebuildable tank atomizers) like the Kayfun, or RDA's (rebuildable dripping atomizers). This way you can build coils and can wick them efficiently so they can handle high wattages and voltages.

If you're perfectly happy with your Nautilus at 4.3V on a 1.8Ω coil (10.27Watts) or 1.6Ω (11.56 Watts), then a new device will be of no use to you because the highest you could usually go on Nautilus coils before the BVC's was 12 Watts. I've heard the new BVC coils are much more efficient and can handle higher wattages but I tend to stay away from tanks like that.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

 

[Wolfenstark]

Yeah, that definitely rings true and nautilus coils have a bad habit of burning out or producing dry hits at high voltages. Are you using the new BVC (bottom vertical) coils?.

Yes from the research most people suggest the bvc's so i got those well 5 packets of them at 1.8Ω.
Oh yes building their own , have read about that briefly. So far I'm more into paying for a good product and wanting that to be good which even in my early time at this has been good so far with only my second bit of kit. The first was just a hurry buy.
eg Im a fan of automatic cars let the car decide the gears I don't need to be I want second gear i want 4 th gear etc. same for the gaping , I see the freedom and such but as for now seems easier to go for a product you buy and is good to use as is.
Out of interest after all that do people build their own coils for a tank like the nautilus and do the nautilus and say kanger aero tanks take different coils?
I can see getting wire and such and wicking material but what about the main body of a coil/atomiser that fits the tank you are using, where do people get that from other than buying a new one and dismantling and replacing coil , wick etc.

 

[TXBiker]

I got my wife a lightly used MVP2 from my B&M for $20 and she loves it. For me it was being able to have control over wattage with the bvc. It took a little playing to finnd what works best for me but I did get it. I like mine at 10w on a Vamo my wife on her MVP is at 8.5w. We still use our spinners from time to time and it took a little experimenting to get the voltage in the sweet spot. It's like everything else and depends on the user. We do have some flexibility with our mods, longer battery life, a wide range of adjustability, the ability to monitor useage and coil ohms. There are benefits but if your good where your at I wouldn't worry about it till later down the road.

 

[roxynoodle]

Honestly, you don't need a mod unless you go to rbas . If you want a box mod for your aspire, an mvp or iStick would be fine.

 

[TheOnyxEgg]

To echo the sentiments expressed by others, if you're happy with what you're using then there really isn't any reason to purchase something else.

Is there something in particular that you don't like about you're current setup? (Battery Life, quantity of vapor, flavor, convience, leaking, etc)

If you can provide things that you don't like about your current setup, it will be much easier to make recommendations or let you know what improvements could be had in switching up your gear.

 

[Raffa]

I have a nautilus mini as well and I like to use it at 13-14 watts for most my juice. 14 watts of power equates to 5 volts for a 1.8 ohm bvc. The vape tastes much better at 14 watts then say 11. The point is with a apv you have the freedom to play with different ranges. The bvc coil can easily handle more than 15 watts without frying but I find 14 is my sweet spot.

 

[suspectK]

Honestly, you need to experience it... Using your imagination on how my 0.2 Ohm tri-coil Estia feels on a mech doesn't do any good... although, it is a little warm for my liking..so not the best example.

But it took time for me to go from my ego-T's with bridged drippers and 3-6 Volt(15 Watt max) mods to how I vape now...it actually took a year before I bought in to the higher wattage and subohm bs...

Vape at your own pace... but the real benefit to a mod with a removable battery is that the mod has a removable battery... If you take care of a mod, the chip will be fine(if you go that route, I prefer mechs, but I'm using regulated mods again, now that most coming out can put out power levels I use).

The only real reason for YOU to get an APV/or a mod with a removable battery is to have a mod that isn't useless when your battery is...

 

[sketchness]

I am only a little further down the vapor trail than you, been at it a little over a month. I have a mech I bought because I wanted to drip and enjoy. This has quickly lead me down the rabbit hole. For me the selling point of a box mod is really simple. Given you select the right box. I picked the new sigelei 100 watt box for a couple of reasons. I can sub ohm on it and get a consistent voltage out of it. Unregulated on a mech performance declines as the battery is discharged. But selection is key here some of the vv/vw devices won't fire a low ohm coil that makes dripping truly enjoyable for me (.25).

The advantage when using a nautilus is the ability to go several days without having to charge the device or pack extra batteries around. Finally I initially bought a cheap ego vv device and stripped the threads like a dummy. So I could spend 35 to replace it or throw in 60 more and have a device that is really versatile. I bought the mod and a fogger that will be here tomorrow for $125 free shipping. Plus I got tired of replacing coils all the time in my nautilus. While the taste of the bvc coils is indeed awesome the high vg juices are tough to use. They either don't wick and I need to add distiller water or they wreck the coils.

 

[Trailz]

Grab an eleaf istick. Much smaller than the MVP2, double the wattage and only 400mAh less battery capacity.

 

[cheech226]

stay happy with what you use and just keep on vapin'!

 

[GeorgeF]

I have two 1600mah vv batteries and use 1.8 bvc's and so far i have vaped from 3.5-4.3v and the battery goes up to 4.8v.
and when a battery runs out i charge it and in the meantime use another battery.
So how does a mod that say goes up to 5 or 6 v going to help me or having more battery when I have two batteries that I alternate ?
Question is how could you sell me on ever getting one of these mods ?

Several reasons. First you can run the Nautilus at 14 watts with the 1.8 BVC. Second reason you can vape approx. 1 1/2 days before switching batteries running an 18650 battery.

I started with a 650 mah Evod battery, switched to a ego-c twist 650 on an evod tank running at 1.8. Turned up the voltage to 4.2 equal to 9.8 watts and noticed a difference in flavor.
Stepped up to the nautilus tank and pushed the voltage a bit higher. 4.4 volts was the max I went, to avoid pushing the battery too much.
Smaller eGo type batteries are not( as far as I know) designed to handle high current draw.

I tried out someone's Sigelei Zmax and their Vamo V2. Great guy working at a local B&M. He let me borrow them and one 18650 battery. I tried the Sigelei all afternoon. Went back to the shop that night and he let me borrow the Vamo. Finally the next afternoon the battery quit(good thing I was carrying my other setups for back ups). Went back to give the set up back and asked when the shop was getting the Zmax in. He said, "Tell you what, it has served me well hope it does the same for you."

So now I am the proud second owner of a Sigelei Zmax. I charged both new batteries on Friday evening. Put one in Friday night. Vaped Friday night, all day Saturday and this morning on 1 battery. Just switched it out at 2pm today. And I don't really expect to change it again until tomorrow night. Maybe Tuesday morning.
The batteries I am running are Efest IMR 18650, 3.7 V LI-MN 2500mAh batteries with a discharge current rating of 35A. The purple ones.
I still carry the evod 650 and the ego 650 twist as backups. Until I get comfortable with not needing them. I suppose I could just carry the second fully charged battery while out at work.