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Rule62

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Im assuming that red coils with juice in the tank is related to oxidation or loose/tight coils?

If it's within the coil, it's likely wrapped too loose. If it's in the leg going from the center post to the top of the wick/coil, it's probably a short, due to the wick not being well oxidized.
 

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Yea I think the performance is up by leaps and bounds but I think the airy draw has also made the vape much cooler. Makes sense. I'll try to cover the hole with tape. I'm picky about appearance though, I don't think the tape will stay put on the inside of the cap due to condensation.

Cut a strip of aluminum tape to 1/8" wide and wrap it around the top like a pin-stripe (Make it look like it's supposed to be there). Then punch out the correct size hole, or a whole bunch of smaller needle holes til you find your sweet spot.
 

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If you want a warmer carto like vape you need the air hole to be very small...so next time you get a replacement cap (they are sold separately at discountvapers)....don't use a drill bit to make the air hole bigger just use a dentist pick and slowly and gradually make the air hole larger until you hit the sweet spot.

Muted flavors usually come from shorts....like Rule62 said all your coils should be glowing the same before you put liquid in the tank...you probably have hot spots/hot coils.
 

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I have a problem with hot coils. They will glow even but they stay incredibly hot. This last coil seems perfect, wick will slide through the coil just barley gripping it. Not too tight, not too loose, but the coils just burn and burn.

Sounds like you have a problem with juice getting to them and cooling them off aka wicking issues.
 

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Sounds like you have a problem with juice getting to them and cooling them off aka wicking issues.

that's what I was thinking, maybe my wick is rolled too tight, not sure. I think the diameter is good, it slides right into the hole withh just enough pressure, it will sit in position on its own.
 

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That probably would be a good set up. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to do it on 3 of my devices. I have 3 Version 1 Provaris, which have an amp limit of 2.5A. A 1.5 ohm coil at 4.5 volts would be over the limit, at about 2.66A. It's why I use 32ga, and build my coils around 2.0 ohms. I do have other devices with higher amp limits; but I like being able to use any of my RBAs on any of my devices.

your right about the v-1, i should think about that when giving advice, but i think most vv devices now have at least a 3.5 limit now, some even have 5 amps now.
 

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your right about the v-1, i should think about that when giving advice, but i think most vv devices now have at least a 3.5 limit now, some even have 5 amps now.

Yeah, I've been meaning to send my 3 Version 1s in for upgrade. I also have 2 Minis that are version 2. I haven't sent the V1s in because: (A) I've been too lazy. and (B) Because the V1s work fine with the 2.0Ω coils I build. Perhaps, if I upgraded them, I might revisit the lower Ω set-ups, and the 30ga or 28ga wire.
 

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Yeah, I've been meaning to send my 3 Version 1s in for upgrade. I also have 2 Minis that are version 2. I haven't sent the V1s in because: (A) I've been too lazy. and (B) Because the V1s work fine with the 2.0Ω coils I build. Perhaps, if I upgraded them, I might revisit the lower Ω set-ups, and the 30ga or 28ga wire.

how much are the upgrades? if expensive that would add up for 3 mods. how are you liking the cobra? you know if you asked me a month ago what genny is your favorite i would of said my real did. but the ac-9 really does blow the did completly out of the water. i couldnt be happier with this device. i would like to buy one more genny to eventually add to a caravela that i probably wont get till oct (thats how long the waiting list is) i am thinking about the cobra or another ac-9
 

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what mesh are you using? with 500 mesh a really tight wick works well, but with 325 you may need a bigger hole in the wick, and maybe not so tight. i think its a wicking issue, if the wick is drying up, the coils will glow and get really hot.

Using 500, I wrapped another one today at about 4 o'clock, seems to be doing fine. not getting as red as the others. I think I need to try and just keep one at a modest yet comfortable level for a few days and see what happens, rather than worrying so much. The perfectionist trait is a gift as well a curse.
 

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Using 500, I wrapped another one today at about 4 o'clock, seems to be doing fine. not getting as red as the others. I think I need to try and just keep one at a modest yet comfortable level for a few days and see what happens, rather than worrying so much. The perfectionist trait is a gift as well a curse.

if you are using the 500, you shouldnt have an issue with wicking, unless it is really loose, so if your coils are glowing with juice in the tank it must be loose coils, are you wrapping the wick or are you using the drill bit method? i do not personally use the drill bit method, but not done right could make for loose coils, if you are doing the bit method then maybe you should just try to wrap the wick the traditional way, cant hurt. either wrap the wick once installed or wrap the wick first then insert. if you are doing this already, sorry for the repeated info.
 

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if you are using the 500, you shouldnt have an issue with wicking, unless it is really loose, so if your coils are glowing with juice in the tank it must be loose coils, are you wrapping the wick or are you using the drill bit method? i do not personally use the drill bit method, but not done right could make for loose coils, if you are doing the bit method then maybe you should just try to wrap the wick the traditional way, cant hurt. either wrap the wick once installed or wrap the wick first then insert. if you are doing this already, sorry for the repeated info.

No worries, all info is good info. Its working fine now, been at 4.3-4.4 all day on 2.1ohm, with only a few dry hits I can remember. I don't use the drill bit method for 2 reasons. I'm gonna get two more rba's this weekend and don't want to have to have different bits readily available and there may be some units where the drill bit method is impractical. I'd rather learn to do it right the traditional way and not worry about having a crutch. now if i could just decide which atty to buy.
 

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No worries, all info is good info. Its working fine now, been at 4.3-4.4 all day on 2.1ohm, with only a few dry hits I can remember. I don't use the drill bit method for 2 reasons. I'm gonna get two more rba's this weekend and don't want to have to have different bits readily available and there may be some units where the drill bit method is impractical. I'd rather learn to do it right the traditional way and not worry about having a crutch. now if i could just decide which atty to buy.

my vote, ac-9. mid feb
 
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