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SF to ban sale of flavored tobacco products

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  1. Beamslider

    Beamslider Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 29, 2017
    San Francisco
    San Francisco and Oakland are advancing proposals to ban the sale of menthol cigarettes and other tobacco flavored products in a move meant to protect the health of children and black communities who are largely targeted by manufacturers of such harmful products.

    SF to ban sale of flavored tobacco products, including menthol cigarettes

    This includes e-juice as well as flavored rolling papers. What sanctimonious jerks.
     
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  2. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
    NE FL
    "Including menthol cigarettes" -- in Oakland? :blink:
     
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  3. Verb

    Verb Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 26, 2014
    Eastern, PA, USA
    Folks there need work. This will create a thriving black market.
     
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  4. trying

    trying Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 11, 2010
    usa
    If it passes in SF how long before NYC does the same thing ?While it will not effect online sales it will hurt local retailers.
     
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  5. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    Apr 16, 2010
    So-Cal
    Who said it Isn't happening already?

    Lawmaker wants to ban flavored e-cigarettes in New York

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    BTW - Here is what Can Happen when people Stop Talking about things, and Actually band together and Do Something.

    "...

    But in the name of public health, these Bay Area ordinances would ban safer flavored vapor products for adults while regular cigarettes can be bought and sold just as freely as before.

    In San Leonardo, however, thanks to a host of small business owners and tobacco harm-reduction advocates who turned out to make the case against the ban, the city council actually listened to the strength of the arguments presented and decided to knock the ban back to the rules committee.

    Vice Mayor Lee Thomas even took the rare and admirable step of actually asking for more information about vapor products, an openness to information that is often in short supply when it comes to issues around tobacco and harm reduction.

    Supervisors in San Francisco and city council members in Oakland would do well to look not just to San Leandro but to the Bay Area's own proud history of championing effective harm-reduction policies over abstinence-only prohibition."


    Proposed ban on e-cigarette flavors suffers well-deserved setback
     
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  6. Vesh

    Vesh Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 17, 2017
    wow - the government are so corrupt everywhere it seems, it will never end. It seems only some places in europe actually have brains regarding e cigs. I wonder has one single government body in the US taken into account (like they never do here either), REAL accounts of REAL people who used to cough a bag of phlegm every day when they were smoking, and now don't at ALL after switching to vaping? ( me and dad are living proof of this ourselves - yet Australia rife with corruption in big tobacco's pocket).
    It will get to the point one day that they start tampering with import juice to make them dangerous to then have a case against vaping. Idiots.
     
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  8. Beamslider

    Beamslider Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 29, 2017
    San Francisco
    The Mayor of SF and the supervisor pushing for the flavor ban actually stated publicly that it was to protect minorities from themselves.

    Seems they believe that minorities can't resist the lure of menthol and that gays can't resist the lure of gummy bear flavor.
     
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  9. Vesh

    Vesh Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 17, 2017
    LOL I am gay and hate gummy bears. ;)
     
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  10. Verb

    Verb Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 26, 2014
    Eastern, PA, USA
    What if the bear isn't gummy?
     
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  11. Vesh

    Vesh Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 17, 2017
    Touche, and oh, you crack me up. But no, not a bear person. Not the definition that is used these days (i.e fat).
     
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  13. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    I swear to god, we need to sit down (tie up) all our politicians and make them watch "Idiocracy" infinity times/until they give in, though it's fantastic about San Leonardo.

    I thought racism was bad and Trump was evil for distinguishing against minorities? And, minorities need to be *protected from themselves*? Dude, I think we're still in the days in which minorities need protection FROM the government, big time.

    And yes, if you are a vaper, you are now a "minority group". Still, I don't care what anyone says, I'm not going to wear one of those "Ms. Piggy" hats while I advocate for myself. No. No. No. We'll have to find a better hat option.

    Anna
     
  14. Vesh

    Vesh Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 17, 2017
    sorry but David's *second* message did not break any rules.
     
  15. retired1

    retired1 Administrator Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Texas
    Yes, it did.

    Forum Rules

    Let's get back on track please.
     
  16. Katdarling

    Katdarling Bling Kween and spreadsheet monster. ;) Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  17. listopencil

    listopencil Ultra Member

    Jun 28, 2017
    In Partibus Infidelium
    It's like these idiots never heard of Cavendish pipe tobacco.
     
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  18. Vesh

    Vesh Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 17, 2017
    don't give them a heads up or that's probably next lol. speaking of cavendish, i find white cloud's flavour to be superb.
     
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  19. listopencil

    listopencil Ultra Member

    Jun 28, 2017
    In Partibus Infidelium
    I kinda sorta make my own. I have some really nice tobacco flavored juices that are already sweet. I'll add in other flavors depending on mood. My base pipe flavor is basically a Cavendish straight out of the bottle. I like HFC from MEL.
     
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  20. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Tucson, AZ
    Yes, that's a nice hat. :)
     
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  21. MrsAngelD

    MrsAngelD Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 5, 2010
    A, A
    Honest question, can't shops just get around this by selling unflavored liquid and then vials of plain flavor?
     
  22. retired1

    retired1 Administrator Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Apr 5, 2013
    Texas
    Pretty much. Some shops in Europe are doing this.
     
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