Ok, decided to go to Sephora and paid the 10 bucks for shiseido facial cotton. I have to say i am pretty impressed with the flavor and how well it keeps up with wicking. Compared to cvs organic it is definately a step up in all aspects. Right now it is wicked in a .18 dual build and im having no problems with it wicking quick and even. It has definately helped the flavor profile as well no waiting for it to break in. Tastes great right out of the back. Excellent 10 dollar investment IMO.